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Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 13:36
by Ruthless-RKO
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 13:28
Thomastearns wrote: ↑16 Dec 2020, 12:16
Billy Joe Saunders
"But the Canelo camp has done the snidey thing they always do and gave him late notice."
And that's just one of the many Clenelo camp tricks.
Saunders is many things, but he's no mug.
Smith said he’s been in the gym since mid-July. He knew he was one of the favourites to land the opportunity to face Canelo.
Yeh, he’s known he was one of the favourites to land the fight.. he’s should be in shape, and TBH, he and his team should have been preparing in some way or another for Canelo for at least a year now.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 19:14
by Onetimeonly
Smart move by canelo getting back on ppv. More people will spend the $70 on their remote than will sign up for dazn.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 20:17
by Jeff_lacy_ko
700k US viewers signed up and watched the canelo v Jacobs fight
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 20:25
by Onetimeonly
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 20:17
700k US viewers signed up and watched the canelo v Jacobs fight
Because they couldn't buy it on TV. How many of them dropped it the next month. Though I have to admit that's a bigger figure than I would have bet on. I didn't think dazn ever had that many us subscribers.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 20:32
by Jeff_lacy_ko
They had over a million for a little bit after that fight
Most dropped it over the course of the next few
I will 20 bucks vs 75 is a no brainer
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 20:36
by Onetimeonly
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 20:32
They had over a million for a little bit after that fight
Most dropped it over the course of the next few
I will 20 bucks vs 75 is a no brainer
Of course, but we're boxing nerds with access to streams and how many last second ppv buys have you made? 'casual' fans aren't going to watch boxing on their computer or phone.
I bet it does 150-200.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 21:00
by lazboy
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 20:32
They had over a million for a little bit after that fight
Most dropped it over the course of the next few
I will 20 bucks vs 75 is a no brainer
I'm paying $2.99 for it legally. Dazn is $2.99 a month in Australia. Just thought I would let people know.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 21:52
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 20:36
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 20:32
They had over a million for a little bit after that fight
Most dropped it over the course of the next few
I will 20 bucks vs 75 is a no brainer
Of course, but we're boxing nerds with access to streams and how many last second ppv buys have you made? 'casual' fans aren't going to watch boxing on their computer or phone.
I bet it does 150-200.
I have a roku and stream in hd on a tv i assume thats what most people under 40 do
Lets see. I hope it does well its a good fight
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 22:03
by Onetimeonly
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 21:52
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 20:36
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 20:32
They had over a million for a little bit after that fight
Most dropped it over the course of the next few
I will 20 bucks vs 75 is a no brainer
Of course, but we're boxing nerds with access to streams and how many last second ppv buys have you made? 'casual' fans aren't going to watch boxing on their computer or phone.
I bet it does 150-200.
I have a roku and stream in hd on a tv i assume thats what most people under 40 do
Lets see. I hope it does well its a good fight
I have dazn, but I know a big reason they raised the rates is because of hundreds of thousands signing up for canelo and then cancelling the next month and then they still did it.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 17 Dec 2020, 23:32
by adislav123
victor galindez vs. canelo at 175 ( no rehydration clause)
how would this fantasy fight go down?
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 01:09
by lazboy
James Toney v Canelo is my fantasy preference. Head movement v Head movement. Toney was slicker imo.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 01:48
by Onetimeonly
lazboy wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 21:00
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 20:32
They had over a million for a little bit after that fight
Most dropped it over the course of the next few
I will 20 bucks vs 75 is a no brainer
I'm paying $2.99 for it legally. Dazn is $2.99 a month in Australia. Just thought I would let people know.
Nice, it hasn't been worth that this year. Pretty sure the super bantam card is the only thing I've watched.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 01:49
by Onetimeonly
Scratch that. The tourney finals. I'll miss this unless I watch the replay.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 05:58
by adislav123
lazboy wrote: ↑18 Dec 2020, 01:09
James Toney v Canelo is my fantasy preference. Head movement v Head movement. Toney was slicker imo.
CANELO 1000% woul've DESTROYED TONEY in the same DEVASTATING FASHION like he broke down so many other masterful boxers.
TO THE BODY!!!!
Toney would be quick work for nelo.
mercilessly brutalized by lethal body punching by the deadliest body puncher in boxing history.
wincing, rolling around on the canvas, hysterically gesturing at his rib cage, unsble to stop crying in pain from those earth shattering, crippling, soul snatching BODY SHOTS by the mexican messiah of boxing.
just one more legendary masterboxer who fell victim to one of canelo's singular knockout body blows!!
seriously... who are the fighters canelo really broke down to the body? i mean in reality?
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 06:23
by adislav123
if canelo/smith goes dowmn exactly like ryder/smith which was regarded by a lot of people as robbery, canelo wins by a shut out.
canelo could even throw half the punches ryder did and effectively land just a minor fraction of them and he gets every single round on the scorecards.
if smith won't be much more aggressive, elusive & active as in his lackluster performance versus ryder he has zero chance to win.
smith hopelessly behind on the scorecards in a to close to call all out action classic, nonstop back & forth with
both men on their last legs after a brutal all out war for 12 crueling rounds AND smith knocks out canelo cold with 5 seconds to go.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 11:09
by Jeff_lacy_ko
I expect this to be fairly close. If canelo wins going away id be impressed but he usually isnt active enough to do that
He only really dominates garbage like rocky or chavez jr.
Smith throws out a solid jab not that POS jab kovalev was throwing. Hes in his prime.
I expect a lot of close rounds where canelos bursts are contrasted with callums jab
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 11:46
by NateJR
You have to favor Alvarez, but Smith is a tall task. I don't much care who wins, it's a fantastic fight.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 11:53
by lazboy
adislav123 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2020, 05:58
lazboy wrote: ↑18 Dec 2020, 01:09
James Toney v Canelo is my fantasy preference. Head movement v Head movement. Toney was slicker imo.
CANELO 1000% woul've DESTROYED TONEY in the same DEVASTATING FASHION like he broke down so many other masterful boxers.
TO THE BODY!!!!
Toney would be quick work for nelo.
mercilessly brutalized by lethal body punching by the deadliest body puncher in boxing history.
wincing, rolling around on the canvas, hysterically gesturing at his rib cage, unsble to stop crying in pain from those earth shattering, crippling, soul snatching BODY SHOTS by the mexican messiah of boxing.
just one more legendary masterboxer who fell victim to one of canelo's singular knockout body blows!!
seriously... who are the fighters canelo really broke down to the body? i mean in reality?
I’m just not able to understand your post or sarcasm if it exists. No one has an easy time with Toney.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 13:26
by adislav123
toney would beat canelo, i'm not saying easily but definitely.
my question to the experts on here is which fighters apart from a fragile fielding did canelo 'broke down to the body'?
what earned him that fearsome reputation of 'notorious bodysnatcher' that so many experts guids into believing he will exactly do this to smith, a rock solid, huge supermiddle who perfectly shields his midsection with his extra long arms, whom i don't recall ever being seriously hurt by a bodyshot?
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 13:33
by Cent0089
When will be weigh in ?
Edit: both looked good at weigh in. Btw Frank Sanchez has fight on the undercard which os not on boxrec
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 14:00
by Ruthless-RKO
The official weights for the final four bouts on the seven-fight Alvarez-Smith undercard are listed below.
Frank Sanchez (16-0, 12 KOs), Guantanamo, Cuba, 229 pounds vs. Julian Fernandez (14-2, 11 KOs), Tijuana, Mexico, 209.2 pounds, 10 rounds, heavyweights.
Raymond Ford (7-0, 3 KOs), Camden, New Jersey, 128.6 pounds vs. Juan Antonio Lopez (15-7, 6 KOs), Dallas, 129.2 pounds, 6 rounds, junior lightweights.
Austin Williams (6-0, 5 KOs), Houston, 159.4 pounds vs. Isiah Jones (9-3, 3 KOs), Detroit, 157 pounds, 6 rounds, middleweights.
Marc Castro (pro debut), Fresno, California, 130.6 pounds vs. Luis Javier Valdez (7-5-1, 2 KOs), Tijuana, Mexico, 128.8 pounds, 4 rounds, junior lightweights.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 14:50
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 15:06
by lazboy
adislav123 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2020, 13:26
toney would beat canelo, i'm not saying easily but definitely.
my question to the experts on here is which fighters apart from a fragile fielding did canelo 'broke down to the body'?
what earned him that fearsome reputation of 'notorious bodysnatcher' that so many experts guide into believing he will exactly do this to smith, a rock solid, huge supermiddle who perfectly shields his midsection with his extra long arms, whom i don't recall ever being seriously hurt by a bodyshot?
I guess it comes from what he did to the great Rocky Fielding.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 20:06
by Counter-puncher
adislav123 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2020, 13:26
toney would beat canelo, i'm not saying easily but definitely.
my question to the experts on here is which fighters apart from a fragile fielding did canelo 'broke down to the body'?
what earned him that fearsome reputation of 'notorious bodysnatcher' that so many experts guids into believing he will exactly do this to smith, a rock solid, huge supermiddle who perfectly shields his midsection with his extra long arms, whom i don't recall ever being seriously hurt by a bodyshot?
His body punching was enough to visibly make GGG wilt on occasions and really blunt his aggression compared to his usual style. If he’s good enough to do that with GGG I think he’s good enough to fold Smith, notwithstanding the size difference.
Re: Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez vs. Callum Smith - December 19, 2020
Posted: 18 Dec 2020, 23:02
by caldo2025
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑18 Dec 2020, 20:06
adislav123 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2020, 13:26
toney would beat canelo, i'm not saying easily but definitely.
my question to the experts on here is which fighters apart from a fragile fielding did canelo 'broke down to the body'?
what earned him that fearsome reputation of 'notorious bodysnatcher' that so many experts guids into believing he will exactly do this to smith, a rock solid, huge supermiddle who perfectly shields his midsection with his extra long arms, whom i don't recall ever being seriously hurt by a bodyshot?
His body punching was enough to visibly make GGG wilt on occasions and really blunt his aggression compared to his usual style. If he’s good enough to do that with GGG I think he’s good enough to fold Smith, notwithstanding the size difference.
You’re high. GGG has never been hurt inside the ring by any punch. Canelo bought his Draw and Win just like he will most likely do tomorrow night. The games a lot easier when you just have to finish a fight to win it.
I don’t even need to look bc I’m sure Moretti will be one of the judges tomorrow night. Floyd’s old hired gun now getting reached arounds from Canelo. I’m sure Smith will crumble like his big bro did but I’d love it if he went balls out and at least managed to damage Canelo.