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Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 17:26
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:20
maverick23 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:15

So around £450k? Was he paid more than Josh?
Only Josh’s team and FW will know that. Wouldn’t surprise me if Josh got a similar purse to Kid. No way Josh would have got the full purse split.
Yh I edited my post above. He made $1.1m just less than that.
I’m pretty sure he didn’t make $1.1m. FW would have likely paid him a good chunk less to get it on his network and get the fight in Leeds.

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 17:28
by Jimmy2020
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:20
maverick23 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:15

So around £450k? Was he paid more than Josh?
Only Josh’s team and FW will know that. Wouldn’t surprise me if Josh got a similar purse to Kid. No way Josh would have got the full purse split.
Yh I edited my post above. He made $1.1m just less than that.
You don't know that, mate. You only ever really know what the fighter whose team lost the bid gets paid.

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 17:29
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:20
maverick23 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:19

Only Josh’s team and FW will know that. Wouldn’t surprise me if Josh got a similar purse to Kid. No way Josh would have got the full purse split.
Yh I edited my post above. He made $1.1m just less than that.
I’m pretty sure he didn’t make $1.1m. FW would have likely paid him a good chunk less to get it on his network and get the fight in Leeds.
I don’t how purse bids work then. I know that Frank was paying Josh minimum $1m for his defenses.

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 17:35
by Jimmy2020
Pugilist-specialist wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 16:49
maley1984 wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 15:49 Cant see anyone wanting to put the money up for the fight.
Who has highly respected boxing trainer Dominic Ingle beaten to be calling fighters "stiffs" as often as he does?

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 17:35
by Jimmy2020
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:29
maverick23 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:20

Yh I edited my post above. He made $1.1m just less than that.
I’m pretty sure he didn’t make $1.1m. FW would have likely paid him a good chunk less to get it on his network and get the fight in Leeds.
I don’t how purse bids work then. I know that Frank was paying Josh minimum $1m for his defenses.
How do you know that?

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 17:38
by Pugilist-specialist

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 17:53
by jameswilson
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:29
maverick23 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 17:20

Yh I edited my post above. He made $1.1m just less than that.
I’m pretty sure he didn’t make $1.1m. FW would have likely paid him a good chunk less to get it on his network and get the fight in Leeds.
I don’t how purse bids work then. I know that Frank was paying Josh minimum $1m for his defenses.
You do know how purse bids work, but if a promoter is with the defending champion then in order to ensure a fight lands with him that is a tough purse bid to win then he can come to an agreement with the defending champ (who he represents) that says ok mate, you want the fight on my show I want the fight on my show, in order to give me the best chance of winning the bid will you agree to take a few hundred grand less than what I win the bid for?

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 17:54
by Pugilist-specialist

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 18:03
by jameswilson
December 2020 IBF ratings.


Kid Galahad ranked 1 by IBF. No 2 empty. Ranked no 3 - Jazza Dickens.

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 20:26
by Boxing Prospect
Winning purse bid was $50k
If you are Galahad, you must be fuming at how little your promoter gives a fornicate about you

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 23:05
by mickey1975
Boxing Prospect wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 20:26 Winning purse bid was $50k
If you are Galahad, you must be fuming at how little your promoter gives a fornicate about you
Even Kell wasn’t doing much trade at The Sheffield Arena, no way would Eddie take Barry there. Josh has completely had him over to be honest.

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 03:48
by maverick23
Boxing Prospect wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 20:26 Winning purse bid was $50k
If you are Galahad, you must be fuming at how little your promoter gives a fornicate about you
I’m pretty sure that when you bid with IBF you have to pay for the privilege so if Eddie knows that Josh isn’t going to take the fight (which he clearly wasn’t) then why bid?!

It’s probably worked out well for Eddie, give it 6 months and he’ll talking about unifications!

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 05:40
by Ruthless-RKO
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 23:05
Boxing Prospect wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 20:26 Winning purse bid was $50k
If you are Galahad, you must be fuming at how little your promoter gives a fornicate about you
Even Kell wasn’t doing much trade at The Sheffield Arena, no way would Eddie take Barry there. Josh has completely had him over to be honest.
Barry would have to fight at the Ice Rink or Doncaster Dome.

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 06:38
by mickey1975
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 05:40
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 23:05
Boxing Prospect wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 20:26 Winning purse bid was $50k
If you are Galahad, you must be fuming at how little your promoter gives a fornicate about you
Even Kell wasn’t doing much trade at The Sheffield Arena, no way would Eddie take Barry there. Josh has completely had him over to be honest.
Barry would have to fight at the Ice Rink or Doncaster Dome.
He can’t fill Ponds Forge. Josh has completely done him with this. Turned £300,000 into maybe £15,000.

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 08:41
by Pugilist-specialist
mickey1975 wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 06:38 Josh has completely done him with this. Turned £300,000 into maybe £15,000.
If Joshua gives his belts up Fury would earn less money. By your logic Joshua would have "done him" :lol:

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 08:50
by mickey1975
Pugilist-specialist wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 08:41
mickey1975 wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 06:38 Josh has completely done him with this. Turned £300,000 into maybe £15,000.
If Joshua gives his belts up Fury would earn less money. By your logic Joshua would have "done him" :lol:
Really?

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 10:08
by Ruthless-RKO
Josh Warrington Explains Why He Took Big Risk in Vacating IBF Title

These things do go in your head,” Warrington said. “I give up that belt, but that belt has pulling power.

“All of a sudden who wants to fight someone who can’t really bring a fanbase to the table, because fans aren’t there, is 30-0, will be 31-0 by then, is knocking out people at the higher level, why would we want to fight him? Without the belt, would the likes of Russell still entertain it?

“This is where I have to put the faith into the matchmakers and likes of Eddie to make these fights happen. That comes down to me as well putting on a monster performance (against Lara) so people will be excited to see me back in there.

“It is a little bit too late for me to start changing the person who I am and becoming like a Conor McGregor type on Twitter. I’m never going to be like that or a Ryan Garcia on Tik Tok. My talking has to be done in the ring. There is that frustration, that uncertainty, but I put trust in the team that I believe after February 13 I will be walking into another title fight.

“But the Ring magazine is still one that has massive pulling power. Only the best fight the best now.”

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“I don't want to be giving up my belt but at the same time I don't want to be going over old ground,” Warrington said. “I just want to be fighting the best.

“You can't be telling me the fans want to be seeing that again, it was an absolute snooze fest. I want fans to be on the edge of their sofa, spilling the takeaway all over as they're watching the boxing and their heart pounding and saying ‘that was a right fight, save that on the planner, don’t delete that, I want to watch that one again'.

“I don’t want them to be turning it off and watching Babestation after round six because it’s an absolutely dogsh-te of a fight, you want to be watching entertaining fights.

“People can see it however they want, there might be some people who think Kid Galahad won the fight, put it down to facts: Compubox had me winning by landing 50 or 60 more punches than him throughout the fight. The fight is not going to be any different if we did it again, he hasn’t got the punch power to stand and trade with me, he’s always going to try to spoil me, it's only going to be a cautious fight.

“I feel like I’ve done everything over here with Carl Frampton, Lee Selby and the Kid. Now, Gary Russell’s there, Leo Santa Cruz is there, Can Xu is there, Emanuel Navarrete is there, I want to test myself against those guys.”

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 10:17
by Pugilist-specialist

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 10:39
by Jimmy2020
Warrington summed that up well. He knows full well he's 'just' a local ticket seller and that's where his value is (or isn't at the moment with empty venues). He's not a ppv fighter and probably never will be. So, in short, the money he is used to simply isn't there.

No point making fornicate all fighting Barry Awad again. It's too much of a risk given there's no real upside. There's probably no point fighting Lara either IMO. A training injury would be handy and wait things out until tickets can be sold properly again.

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 11:20
by Switch hitter
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 10:08 Josh Warrington Explains Why He Took Big Risk in Vacating IBF Title

These things do go in your head,” Warrington said. “I give up that belt, but that belt has pulling power.

“All of a sudden who wants to fight someone who can’t really bring a fanbase to the table, because fans aren’t there, is 30-0, will be 31-0 by then, is knocking out people at the higher level, why would we want to fight him? Without the belt, would the likes of Russell still entertain it?

“This is where I have to put the faith into the matchmakers and likes of Eddie to make these fights happen. That comes down to me as well putting on a monster performance (against Lara) so people will be excited to see me back in there.

“It is a little bit too late for me to start changing the person who I am and becoming like a Conor McGregor type on Twitter. I’m never going to be like that or a Ryan Garcia on Tik Tok. My talking has to be done in the ring. There is that frustration, that uncertainty, but I put trust in the team that I believe after February 13 I will be walking into another title fight.

“But the Ring magazine is still one that has massive pulling power. Only the best fight the best now.”

----------------

“I don't want to be giving up my belt but at the same time I don't want to be going over old ground,” Warrington said. “I just want to be fighting the best.

“You can't be telling me the fans want to be seeing that again, it was an absolute snooze fest. I want fans to be on the edge of their sofa, spilling the takeaway all over as they're watching the boxing and their heart pounding and saying ‘that was a right fight, save that on the planner, don’t delete that, I want to watch that one again'.

“I don’t want them to be turning it off and watching Babestation after round six because it’s an absolutely dogsh-te of a fight, you want to be watching entertaining fights.

“People can see it however they want, there might be some people who think Kid Galahad won the fight, put it down to facts: Compubox had me winning by landing 50 or 60 more punches than him throughout the fight. The fight is not going to be any different if we did it again, he hasn’t got the punch power to stand and trade with me, he’s always going to try to spoil me, it's only going to be a cautious fight.

“I feel like I’ve done everything over here with Carl Frampton, Lee Selby and the Kid. Now, Gary Russell’s there, Leo Santa Cruz is there, Can Xu is there, Emanuel Navarrete is there, I want to test myself against those guys.”
On the punch stats sites they have Galahad landing more punches ......

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 12:13
by Ruthless-RKO
Switch hitter wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 11:20 On the punch stats sites they have Galahad landing more punches ......
You score a fight, round by round. Punch stats should never be used to score rounds or help score them either.

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 12:55
by Switch hitter
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 12:13
Switch hitter wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 11:20 On the punch stats sites they have Galahad landing more punches ......
You score a fight, round by round. Punch stats should never be used to score rounds or help score them either.
Just pointing out what Josh was saying isn't really right..... If you look at them they had Galahad landing more in most rounds

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:13
by Pugilist-specialist
Steveh583 wrote: 18 Jan 2021, 12:50 no one is really interested in galahad, his moments gone.
maley1984 wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 15:49 Cant see anyone wanting to put the money up for the fight.
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 13:41 Kid will be getting peanuts now.
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 23:05 Josh has completely had him over to be honest.
https://boxing-social.com/news/galahad- ... -with-pbc/

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Mauricio Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:36
by Ruthless-RKO
Maybe they just signed him so he can he the ‘Sacrificial lamb’ to the other guys.

Re: Josh Warrington vs. Lara - 13 February 2021

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 17:01
by mickey1975
Pugilist-specialist wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 16:13
Steveh583 wrote: 18 Jan 2021, 12:50 no one is really interested in galahad, his moments gone.
maley1984 wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 15:49 Cant see anyone wanting to put the money up for the fight.
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 13:41 Kid will be getting peanuts now.
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 23:05 Josh has completely had him over to be honest.
https://boxing-social.com/news/galahad- ... -with-pbc/
In other words, Eddie doesn’t want him.