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Coco wrote: ↑01 Nov 2021, 14:55 Fisher needs at least another couple of years before you can think about matching him competitively.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Nov 2021, 19:29

Coco wrote: ↑01 Nov 2021, 14:55 Fisher needs at least another couple of years before you can think about matching him competitively.

agree, i think he's an accident waiting to happen if matched vs live bodies now. that said he's got some physical tools , is getting excellent sparring (joyce, fury, etc) and clearly has good backing and can get the right opponents, and that can go a long way in improving a guy.

they should match him tough in the gym and keep the learning and refinement going there.. go the soft touch opposition route for a couple years so he can keep developing in training (though this opposition can still include durable opponents), then when he's 24-25 he's still really young for a hw and better equipped for a challenge

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 15:10 Steady Eddie said they want to fight him 8 times next year. Spain, Italy, USA, and a few locations around england. Called it a world tour, like that for a 4-0...

Like the 8 fights mentality, thats what he needs, Cool to show him around i guess, but hard to see how going to spain makes sense when your selling bulk tickets in UK... But mabey it will just be nessasary to fight in those places to get to the 8 fights.

maverick23 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 15:45

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 15:10 Steady Eddie said they want to fight him 8 times next year. Spain, Italy, USA, and a few locations around england. Called it a world tour, like that for a 4-0...

Like the 8 fights mentality, thats what he needs, Cool to show him around i guess, but hard to see how going to spain makes sense when your selling bulk tickets in UK... But mabey it will just be nessasary to fight in those places to get to the 8 fights.

I think getting him out loads is the right thing to do. I think Eddie’s struggled in recent years with keeping his prospects active.

Given he’ll be fighting crap opposition for another year at least I think it’s actually unfair to expect his fans to pony up 6/7 times a year so having him fight abroad takes the pressure off a little and gives him a new experience.

rob h wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:40 Sorry just don't see the hype.

Coco wrote: ↑11 Jan 2022, 06:37

rob h wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:40 Sorry just don't see the hype.

He sells tickets

595179 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2022, 09:21

Coco wrote: ↑11 Jan 2022, 06:37

rob h wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:40 Sorry just don't see the hype.

He sells tickets

Fair play to the fella I say. He's got the guts to step in the ring and people want to see him fight, good for him. They will guide him carefully and rightly so. He might get a shot at the British down the line and isn't that something well would all love.

maverick23 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2022, 09:32

595179 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2022, 09:21

Coco wrote: ↑11 Jan 2022, 06:37

He sells tickets

Fair play to the fella I say. He's got the guts to step in the ring and people want to see him fight, good for him. They will guide him carefully and rightly so. He might get a shot at the British down the line and isn't that something well would all love.

There have been guys who early doors I’ve not been impressed with at all that have gone on to a really good level (Conor Benn being a recent example) but a lot of it depends on how seriously he takes it and the people he’s around.

I think the Tibbs camp is good one for him but it seems he loves a Chinese as much as his dad which he’ll probably need to reduce to maximise his potential. He’s a smart lad which usually helps.

Floydendizer wrote: ↑11 Jan 2022, 15:47 Sandland retired in December.

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 20:40 he is just a big rugby player for me, cant see him getting to british title, i like him seems a good lad not trying to cut him down

gregregegg wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 20:57

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 20:40 he is just a big rugby player for me, cant see him getting to british title, i like him seems a good lad not trying to cut him down

Absolutely what he was a year ago, Basically what he is right now.

But is young he seems physically gifted, smart enough to learn and driven enough to keep at it and has a quality trainer. Plus now he sells tickets he will have financial backing.

Johnny fisher now gets smoked at British levle. But who knows how good he can get. Joyce started boxing at 22, AJ at 18, whyte at 20… fisher started younger or as young as any of them, and is now 21 with so much opportunity to improve.

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 21:09

gregregegg wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 20:57

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 20:40 he is just a big rugby player for me, cant see him getting to british title, i like him seems a good lad not trying to cut him down

Absolutely what he was a year ago, Basically what he is right now.

But is young he seems physically gifted, smart enough to learn and driven enough to keep at it and has a quality trainer. Plus now he sells tickets he will have financial backing.

Johnny fisher now gets smoked at British levle. But who knows how good he can get. Joyce started boxing at 22, AJ at 18, whyte at 20… fisher started younger or as young as any of them, and is now 21 with so much opportunity to improve.

difference is the fighters you named had nothing else, like i say i ve seen fisher talk he is articulate does he want his brains bashed in, i think he is getting better , just not a natural boxer for me , well aj got lucky for me beat no one his natural bigness against middle of the road fighters won him fights

gregregegg wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 23:07

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 21:09

gregregegg wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 20:57

Absolutely what he was a year ago, Basically what he is right now.

But is young he seems physically gifted, smart enough to learn and driven enough to keep at it and has a quality trainer. Plus now he sells tickets he will have financial backing.

Johnny fisher now gets smoked at British levle. But who knows how good he can get. Joyce started boxing at 22, AJ at 18, whyte at 20… fisher started younger or as young as any of them, and is now 21 with so much opportunity to improve.

difference is the fighters you named had nothing else, like i say i ve seen fisher talk he is articulate does he want his brains bashed in, i think he is getting better , just not a natural boxer for me , well aj got lucky for me beat no one his natural bigness against middle of the road fighters won him fights

AJ won an olympic gold and won 3 belts, he got lucky, but even with luck hard to deny he is quality.

Its true johnys ability to do other things could cost him a bit, probably be less inclined to do tons of hard sparing and subject himself to wars. but i dunno, if he does it right evey chance at becoming pretty decent.

PredatorHayds wrote: ↑19 Jan 2022, 18:20 Disagree about Joyce having nothing else.

He’s a very good artist who I’m pretty sure has some qualifications to go along with it.

He chose boxing.