2020 Olympic Boxing

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DrDuke wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 03:24
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 03:05 it's been really weird.......even fights that are one sided hammerings, much worse than that, there's continually been a judge to score it for someone who clearly got whooped
It looks especially surreal with Khyzhniak. The Ukrainian Tank was overwhelming everybody, like he has been always doing, and he got some splits.
I thought his semis fight with Marcial could have gone either way. Marcial landed the harder shots, while Khyzniak was more busier. Its the first time i saw Khyzniak in danger of losing. but he dig deep.
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Miman wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 08:04
DrDuke wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 03:24
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 03:05 it's been really weird.......even fights that are one sided hammerings, much worse than that, there's continually been a judge to score it for someone who clearly got whooped
It looks especially surreal with Khyzhniak. The Ukrainian Tank was overwhelming everybody, like he has been always doing, and he got some splits.
I thought his semis fight with Marcial could have gone either way. Marcial landed the harder shots, while Khyzniak was more busier. Its the first time i saw Khyzniak in danger of losing. but he dig deep.
Marcial landed some good shots in the 1st, especially early on, then Khyzhniak definitely felt them, so it's an arguable round, but in the other two Khyzhniak was in almost total control.
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Steven Metro wrote: 04 Aug 2021, 14:27 Torrez has precisely no chance of getting a Gold for USA. The Former Soviet or Uzbek he is fighting already brutally KTFO Torrez like 1 year ago.

Torrez winning the Gold for USA VS Jalolov has about as much chance happening as Neil Armstrong walking on the Sun. Almost a literal impossibility.
That's about as much chance as people gave the USA hockey team of beating the Soviets in 1980.
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DrDuke wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 10:18
Miman wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 08:04
DrDuke wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 03:24

It looks especially surreal with Khyzhniak. The Ukrainian Tank was overwhelming everybody, like he has been always doing, and he got some splits.
I thought his semis fight with Marcial could have gone either way. Marcial landed the harder shots, while Khyzniak was more busier. Its the first time i saw Khyzniak in danger of losing. but he dig deep.
Marcial landed some good shots in the 1st, especially early on, then Khyzhniak definitely felt them, so it's an arguable round, but in the other two Khyzhniak was in almost total control.
i thought round 2 was almost similar to round 1 as well. khyznial was busier but a lot of his punches didnt land. while Marcial was cleaner and landed th harder shota. then again, its subjective. thats why it was split. I just thought Marcial run out of steam, he coudnt keep up with Khyzniaks pace. Khyzniaks superior condition would always prevail.
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Classy show by Ragan in defeat. Great effort. Excellent silver medal run. I need to get up to Cincinnati sometime and see him fight.
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Miman wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 11:04
DrDuke wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 10:18
Miman wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 08:04

I thought his semis fight with Marcial could have gone either way. Marcial landed the harder shots, while Khyzniak was more busier. Its the first time i saw Khyzniak in danger of losing. but he dig deep.
Marcial landed some good shots in the 1st, especially early on, then Khyzhniak definitely felt them, so it's an arguable round, but in the other two Khyzhniak was in almost total control.
i thought round 2 was almost similar to round 1 as well. khyznial was busier but a lot of his punches didnt land. while Marcial was cleaner and landed th harder shota. then again, its subjective. thats why it was split. I just thought Marcial run out of steam, he coudnt keep up with Khyzniaks pace. Khyzniaks superior condition would always prevail.
It seemed for me, that in the 2nd Khyzhniak wasn't troubled as much as in the 1st, while Marcial was backed up with Khyzhniak's punches more, so then it wasn't only about running out of gas, like in the 3rd. Anyway, Khyzhniak's pace is indeed his most important tool. His chin seems to be great too.
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I'm going for the big upset.
Richard Torrez wins gold
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tiny_acres wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 11:54 I'm going for the big upset.
Richard Torrez wins gold
Yeah let’s go!!!! :box: :clap:
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The middleweight semifinal between Bakshi (Russian) and Sousa (Brazilian) was excellent. I had the Brazilian edging it. He got the decision. Both showed excellent skill. Could see Sousa making professional noise.
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GBR flyweight Yafai looked good in his semi victory over the KZ boxer, though he was getting lit up a bit in the 3rd.
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ironbeard wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 14:42 GBR flyweight Yafai looked good in his semi victory over the KZ boxer, though he was getting lit up a bit in the 3rd.
He was totally outgunned in the 3rd. All judges gave him the 1st. It was 3:2 for the Kazakh in the 2nd. Eventually Yafai got a SD win, which meant, that some had given him the 3rd and it had been outrageous.
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DrDuke wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 14:54
ironbeard wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 14:42 GBR flyweight Yafai looked good in his semi victory over the KZ boxer, though he was getting lit up a bit in the 3rd.
He was totally outgunned in the 3rd. All judges gave him the 1st. It was 3:2 for the Kazakh in the 2nd. Eventually Yafai got a SD win, which meant, that some had given him the 3rd and it had been outrageous.
Definitely could have gone the other way, but I have no problem with the decision, overall.
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tiny_acres wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 11:54 I'm going for the big upset.
Richard Torrez wins gold
USA! USA! USA!

You can do it Richie :yay:
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ironbeard wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 14:57
DrDuke wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 14:54
ironbeard wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 14:42 GBR flyweight Yafai looked good in his semi victory over the KZ boxer, though he was getting lit up a bit in the 3rd.
He was totally outgunned in the 3rd. All judges gave him the 1st. It was 3:2 for the Kazakh in the 2nd. Eventually Yafai got a SD win, which meant, that some had given him the 3rd and it had been outrageous.
Definitely could have gone the other way, but I have no problem with the decision, overall.
Overall, I think he scraped through.
He did put on two very entertaining fights, out classed, out sized, but not out worked.
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keyshawn davis is looking excelen against a tricky almost running fowards opponent. Davis with smaller gloves in a few years could be a very fun addition to the current young guys 135 gang.
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prob gonna be the big final vs the cuban andy cruz, who has beaten him many times before, including once by tko. they are prob the only guys who can beat each other right now. let's see if shawn can finally get revenge
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gregregegg wrote: 06 Aug 2021, 01:43 keyshawn davis is looking excelen against a tricky almost running fowards opponent. Davis with smaller gloves in a few years could be a very fun addition to the current young guys 135 gang.
He already has 3 pro fights and even at the Olympics he brought some pro styled tricks. It looks like he indeed has a potential.
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DrDuke wrote: 06 Aug 2021, 01:49
gregregegg wrote: 06 Aug 2021, 01:43 keyshawn davis is looking excelen against a tricky almost running fowards opponent. Davis with smaller gloves in a few years could be a very fun addition to the current young guys 135 gang.
He already has 3 pro fights and even at the Olympics he brought some pro styled tricks. It looks like he indeed has a potential.
Yea had that good attitude of getting your own back rather than waiting for the ref. when the guy threw him down he made sure he was on top. was willing to hit low, got hit late so hit back later.

did push the ref out of the way at one point though not a good stratergy when you need the odd favor from the ref somtimes. but definatly could be a player in the pros.
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eddeh must be loving it......if davis wins gold he has val barker potential
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Someone needs to get this cuban defected and pro. he is electric.

Cruz vs keyshawn davis might be the best fight this olympics (in terms of quality fighters).
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gregregegg wrote: 06 Aug 2021, 02:05 Someone needs to get this cuban defected and pro. he is electric.

Cruz vs keyshawn davis might be the best fight this olympics (in terms of quality fighters).
Take that back already, these two in there now are probably better. i think im just plesently suprised tuning into boxing at the medal end of the draw vs when i last realy watched in the early rounds...
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La Cruz simply toyed with Gadzhimagimedov.
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Good fight. Cruz won, but geezes the comentator is overstating how dominate it was.

- cruz won the first, but it wasnt insanely dominate with one judge giving it to the russian. (i thought it was clear though)

-cruz was toying with him in the 2nd, but got knocked down (was lucky it didnt get called a KD because it was).

- cruz edged the third very negitivly for me. (most judges gave it to the russian)

Cruz did have a massive skills advantage and is a phenominal tallent thats not up for debate, but that was somehow a close fight anyway.
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In the first round La Cruz was economical, but still he managed to land a couple of good shots, while Gadzhimagomedov did literally nothing.

In the second La Cruz clearly outlanded Gadzhimagomedov. The KD moment was dodgy. The punch landed, but it didn't look hard, while it seemed like La Cruz stumbled at the ropes. There was similar stuff in his prvious fights.

In the third round La Cruz was the less effective, as he had already been up by 2 rounds, so he was killing time majorly.
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DrDuke wrote: 06 Aug 2021, 02:45 In the first round La Cruz was economical, but still he managed to land a couple of good shots, while Gadzhimagomedov did literally nothing.

In the second La Cruz clearly outlanded Gadzhimagomedov. The KD moment was dodgy. The punch landed, but it didn't look hard, while it seemed like La Cruz stumbled at the ropes. There was similar stuff in his prvious fights.

In the third round La Cruz was the less effective, as he had already been up by 2 rounds, so he was killing time majorly.
basicaly how it went. But that knockdown although it clearly didnt hurt him, was still a knock down. hit him flush on the face while he was off balance and contributed to him falling down. KD every day of the week.

As i said cruz skills wise is unreal, and he did enough to win. for me it showed he is capable of a masterclass, but i dont think that was a masterclass.
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