BoxRec

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 06:45

Autobarn wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 06:43

stujones wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 14:18 I still don't get the love for Ruiz, hes scored one decent win, lost legitimately vs Parker and looked awful in his last two outings.

I'd like to see Ruiz prove the Joshua win was no fluke before we fights Fury. Let's see him against a Rivas or a Michael Hunter.

I agree, the loss to Parker was legit & he won’t show the potential demonstrated vs Joshua 1.

If he fights Fury at 235-pounds, then I’d probably be interested.

Wish the contenders would fight each other, definitely. Keeps viewers interested & shows who’s legit.

But it wasn't really potential. He stopped the undefeated heavyweight champion of the world! Made him quit. A bit better than potential.

Oliver McCall Kod one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, but he will not go down as a great himself. James Douglas destroyed Mike Tyson, but he will not be ranked ahead of Tyson.

Why? Cos neither solidified their wins.

Madly, Mike Tyson creeps into some people's top ten!

maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 11:39

mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 11:33

maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 11:22

If Fury boxed and moved against Ruiz then it would be a masterclass/schooling. AJ did it and people some people said he was running scared.

And convinced himself he could do it against Usyk!

Yeah - he thought he was a master boxer unfortunately and was never really in the fight.

Joshua did try to be more aggressive, come forward and press a few times early in that fight.
He ate a couple of good lefts in the first two rounds that made him more cautious, then he tried it again in the 3rd and Usyk stunned him hard and Joshua thought "fornicate this", I'll box and hope for the best, but I'll get taken out if I try fight with him.

Eddie Hearn's comments that he tried to sell to the public after the fight that all Joshua needed to do was be aggressive and he'd be too big, strong and powerful for Usyk are merely to sell a rematch.
Hearn knows if Joshua did that it's probable he'd have been stopped early.

Hearns original sell of the rematch was the Joshua,was leading before his eye went. Joshua wasnt ahead for a,single second of that fight

I’m not really interested in who Fury fights next. For me, the biggest / only fight of 2022 is Katie Taylor v Amanda Serrano.

there's a little nod to Bunce's absurd wish list !

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 15:43 there's a little nod to Bunce's absurd wish list !

Lol

But imagine - Katie Taylor vs Amanda Serrano. Over ten 2 minute rounds..... for ALL THE MARBLES! At Madison Square Garden! A mouth watering fight! The whole boxing world will be talking about this! It's like a prime Canelo vs a prime Mayweather! And what an advert for women's boxing it will be!

i bet bunce felt so hip hyping serrano-taylor

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 16:24 i bet bunce felt so hip hyping serrano-taylor

He probably just wants to stick biros in their behinds

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 16:38

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 16:24 i bet bunce felt so hip hyping serrano-taylor

He probably just wants to stick biros in their behinds

paging Big Dave to the thread

big dave gonna bring big biros for us

dookus wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 07:41

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 16:38

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 16:24 i bet bunce felt so hip hyping serrano-taylor

He probably just wants to stick biros in their behinds

paging Big Dave to the thread

Ring ring
“Ello is that Big Dave?”
“Ey up”
“It’s big Daddy Buncey ere. Got another problem wiv dem Boxrec wrong uns. Talking about biros again!”
“Reyt”
“Can you sort it out for us?”
“Aye. Nay botha.”
“Cheers. Sorted. Adios. Eh Dave will you be watchin Taylor - Serrano?”
“Fook off ya podgy twonk”

stujones wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 05:55 Hearns original sell of the rematch was the Joshua,was leading before his eye went. Joshua wasnt ahead for a,single second of that fight

Is that the narrative? I watched it as part of a fully Usyk group of boxing fans. It's not like we're not patriotic, but we all knew enough about boxing to figure Usyk was far superior in all aspects but size, so we were all confidently behind him.

I had a bet on Usyk late stoppage, so the fact that he said he could do it but didn't meant I lost money and was quietly fuming. But none of us thought AJ would win.

stujones wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 05:55 Hearns original sell of the rematch was the Joshua,was leading before his eye went. Joshua wasnt ahead for a,single second of that fight

I had it pretty even for the first 11 seconds, from there usyk took over.

gregregegg wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 21:37

stujones wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 05:55 Hearns original sell of the rematch was the Joshua,was leading before his eye went. Joshua wasnt ahead for a,single second of that fight

I had it pretty even for the first 11 seconds, from there usyk took over.

that long?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Jan 2022, 00:32

gregregegg wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 21:37

stujones wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 05:55 Hearns original sell of the rematch was the Joshua,was leading before his eye went. Joshua wasnt ahead for a,single second of that fight

I had it pretty even for the first 11 seconds, from there usyk took over.

that long?

At least 10

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 12:51

stevec@france wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 12:41 hope not

I want to see whyte have a go after all the time he has waited around .

wbc have ordered 80 / 20 split so I guess its how hungry he is or if his pride wont have it .

He did get knocked out two fights ago.

Mickey, do you think Fury-Helenius would sell out Wembley?

595179 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 08:36

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 12:51

stevec@france wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 12:41 hope not

I want to see whyte have a go after all the time he has waited around .

wbc have ordered 80 / 20 split so I guess its how hungry he is or if his pride wont have it .

He did get knocked out two fights ago.

Mickey, do you think Fury-Helenius would sell out Wembley?

I don't think they'd try to.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:00

595179 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 08:36

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 12:51
He did get knocked out two fights ago.

Mickey, do you think Fury-Helenius would sell out Wembley?

I don't think they'd try to.

I asked if you think it would sell out Wembley. Just after your opinion.

595179 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:02

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:00

595179 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 08:36

Mickey, do you think Fury-Helenius would sell out Wembley?

I don't think they'd try to.

I asked if you think it would sell out Wembley. Just after your opinion.

No, it would be stupid. Like AJ found out against Takam, some arenas are too big for b level fighters. Fury is a northern man. He will sell up here.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:19

595179 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:02

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:00
I don't think they'd try to.

I asked if you think it would sell out Wembley. Just after your opinion.

No, it would be stupid. Like AJ found out against Takam, some arenas are too big for b level fighters. Fury is a northern man. He will sell up here.

Do you think Fury would sell out Old Trafford vs Helenius?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:19

595179 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:02

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:00
I don't think they'd try to.

I asked if you think it would sell out Wembley. Just after your opinion.

No, it would be stupid. Like AJ found out against Takam, some arenas are too big for b level fighters. Fury is a northern man. He will sell up here.

AJ/Takam did 75,000. Where else could they have gone in late October?!

It's very hard for us to say what would sell to the general pubic isn't it.
We spend hours online arguing about whether the WBA interim Featherweight Titlist should be upgraded to Super Champion and whatnot.

I think Fury is more popular than AJ. He's not as marketable, or well-marketed, but he's become 'a crossover star' organically- by being his real self.
I think he'll sell our a big arena on his own and would fill Wembley easily against Whyte - who sells a fight really well.

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:26

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:19

595179 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:02

I asked if you think it would sell out Wembley. Just after your opinion.

No, it would be stupid. Like AJ found out against Takam, some arenas are too big for b level fighters. Fury is a northern man. He will sell up here.

AJ/Takam did 75,000. Where else could they have gone in late October?!

As far as ticket sales go, AJ is a mutant. To think that Lewis vs Bruno did under 26,000 and Bruno-McCall did 30,000 in Frank's back yard.

skanksta wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 09:35 It's very hard for us to say what would sell to the general pubic isn't it.
We spend hours online arguing about whether the WBA interim Featherweight Titlist should be upgraded to Super Champion and whatnot.

I think Fury is more popular than AJ. He's not as marketable, or well-marketed, but he's become 'a crossover star' organically- by being his real self.
I think he'll sell our a big arena on his own and would fill Wembley easily against Whyte - who sells a fight really well.

fury is starting to get popular and aj less in my opinion but i would imagine the general public would say aj than fury, he sold out big stadiums i don’t think fury could unless it was against aj not even sure with usyk maybe