coneye wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023, 22:09
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023, 17:47
golden_labrador wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 20:27
amen to that indeed. hope you're on the mend
thanks mate was not moping, I don't do down. My 2 TIAs and major stroke are all down to PED abuse for my former sport (strongman) hence my strong views on the matter. Thank you for the words, I am well and working so lucky.
Guys such has yourself , SHOULD post more and regular about Peds , what they can and can't do , recount horror storys you experienced or heard off , giving people a heads up and look into the reality of it all .
Personaly i can't add anything because i really don't know a damm thing about them , never took them or have any experience with them except , has a trainer , myself i was lucky i always had a very good strong physice , lot of people thought i done weights but i never touched one in my life , for me hard work just gave me what i was happy with , suppose i had a natural strenght which came from starting the boxing gym at around 8-9 years old , starting work at 13 and very heavy work for a kid , gave me natural strenght , keeping trim came from the gym , running , i used to love to run , found it cleared my head , end result , nearly 70 and can still jump in and body spar 5-6 hard rnds , , don't let the young ens hit me in the head anymore , not enough cells left and too slow
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Has a trainer i knew a couple who were obviously on them and had lads fight them but my worry was non existent , were not talking world class here , so my advice was always go really hard first 2-3 rnds , , remember i used to say , theres only 2 ways to get a physice like that hard work or peds , and this fuckers to lazy for the hard work so go hard and gas him out , always worked has well ... Course when you climbed the ladder you better have better advice than that , but at lower levels it worked .
But anyway , let myself and others know more about the dangers has opposed to benefits , knoledge is always good , if you turn just one young man away from them , youv'e done a good job ,, until the relevent authoroties start banning not only the athletes but the others who contributed towards it , then its not gonna stop , it would stop by a big percentage in boxing , if a promoter and trainer were found guilty of knowing and aiding and banned along with the athlete
Thanks mate. Apologies for delay, not got on here much this week as work been bonkers.
In terms of PEDs, my tale is a how not to, and my end is about how quickly you can abuse them. I used at 15 when I did bodybuilding, utterly idiotic as I limited all my natural growth opportunities. Went from 9st 4 to 16 stone 7 and looked 'great' if we view great by a narcissistic myopic lens. Stopped training and using at 19 and clearly made loads of natural gains by......going back to below 10 stone.
Went back on when started strongman training at 27 weighing 10 stone. Added ten-ish stone in 2 years through massive PED abuse, wasted up to £400 a month using testosterone, masteron, trenbolone, human growth hormone, an array of SARMS/peptide such as CJC1295, GHRP2, GHRP6 and pathetically stayed on without any cycling off for well over 7 years, adding in toxic oral anabolics including anadrol, dbol. And due to epic insecurity, took huge cycles of thyroid drugs (T5/T3 and dangerous chinese thermogenics including clenbuterol) to maintain a conparatively low level of bodyfat.
Ended up 22.5 stone, had water bloat that made it hard to breath, permanent sweats, panic attacks (leading to more meds to counteract it - tranquilisers, antid's)
I was the Olubamiwo of strongman competitions - crap but used everything, and all it did was make me very large, and average an 'athlete' at best.
I was the extreme end of usage but many boxers trained there and used HGH, tren, test etc, both BBBoC boxers and so many BIBA/ WCBers. It is RIFE at so many sports. And quite a few sprinters. And randomly, lots of failed sprinters who switched to bobsleighing as there was funding attached and the only other rivals were ex military personnel who turned to it.
I do not know much about much but have taken every PED, steroid, hormone and associated Sarm, supplement and the like. I now advise people NOT to use as it is never worth it. I have friends who used comparatively sensitively who have still suffered irreparable damage - infertility, loss of relationships/jobs due to impact on their mood and the like, long term mental health damage, huge gyno a la the gent in Fight Club, horrific tendon damage as your tendons never get as strong as your muscles, and never repair as quickly when you do damage them. I've torn my achilles full rupture, both rotator cuffs, had 2 spinal surgeries, need a fusion (not having it as it just degenerates further thereafter), have heart failure and can honestly say no one who uses PEDs beyond sparingly and briefly, escapes unscathed. In strongman, I used to say it was only hurting me, but it does not, you damage your kinship networks, family and more.
Happy to answer any questions on it, not proud of it one iota but definitely a wiser man. If you can call a nobhead who wasted 10s of £k's on gear to get big and strong, a man.
There are people who box on 4 rounders who take a gram of gear a week. That is scary. I dread to think what the elite ones who can afford it take.
