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smiling assassin wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 18:41 Benns team are just blurring the lines. The WBC are going to put him back in their rankings so it clears him to fight for their belts. We all know that these sanctioning bodies are out for a pound note but the WBC (in my opinion)are the worst.

The BBBOC are still yet to see this 270 page document as they haven’t submitted it to them (make of that what you want). Benns is as guilty of taking steroids as Gary Glitter was of touching little boys. Let’s not let any thing The WBC do get away from that fact

Well he won’t be able to fight in the UK without a licence.

There’s probably a shoddy commission state in the US that might. But he ain’t selling tickets there.

Middle East is another option.

Don’t see how any commission would give him a license with this lingering.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 18:58 Middle East is another option.

I've no doubt that Hearn is going to put him on an Abu Dhabi card in the wake of his recent deal with the DCT there. It's by some margin the most viable route IMO.

He will be able to get a license in loads of places.
It would be interesting to see what happens if he tries to box in the UK with a license from elsewhere as he hasn’t been banned by the BBBoC and could (in theory) box here with an alternative license the same as anyone else.

Has anyone asked Benn this….

If you were so confident the tests were wrong, why did you and your team cover them up and not issue your 270 page dossier before they were leaked?

Even if he can prove his ‘innocence’ someone is guilty of concealing test results.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 19:19 Has anyone asked Benn this….

If you were so confident the tests were wrong, why did you and your team cover them up and not issue your 270 page dossier before they were leaked?

Even if he can prove his ‘innocence’ someone is guilty of concealing test results.

Great point

It's almost like he isn't innocent

Personaly i'm not interested in what he does , If he fights again only thing i'm going to look at his who is the opponent , if its another mismatch with him coming in full off roids it really is going to do the matchroom banner a lot of harm , if he is off the juice ,well there going to need a good opponent to sell tickets and he'll get hammered anyway when its a decent opponent .
Regards WBC well really does and did anyoe expect any different from them '

The real intrigue for me is the BBBC will they stand by and allow Benn and Hearn to just virtually say go do one we are doing what we want , or are they going to grow a set and put there foot down ,

I think they will wait and then decide , we cannot ban him for failing tests from an organization we don't recognise especielly when he is'nt a member , which makes me think is this the planned route sorted discussed and agreed on months ago , such has the time when it was all secret service hush hush stuff , until it was leaked ,, Wonder if it was Seniour who leaked it

There’s a reason Benn has given up his British license and is refusing to cooperate with UKAD/VADA/BBBoC.

There’s a bit more on his story.

People sharing and licking his ass. Saying Clean Hearts Win.

ashall2 wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 05:39 Already dreading the 'innocent' narrative Hearn, Benn and Matchroom are going to roll out. To the casual eye they'll just see 'Benn innocent' and swallow it all up. Anyone with half a brain knows the WBC can be swayed with cold hard cash and there's a reason Benn has given up his British license and is refusing to cooperate with UKAD/VADA/BBBoC.

No idea how he would ever get his theories through a court, even on a balance of probabilities level of proof when even the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs say the use of clomifene isn’t authorised in the UK for farming and only a very small proportion of eggs are imported to the UK. They outline that there’s no evidence of clomifene being in the British food chain. Conor… ‘well we have our theories!’ lol Sure you do son!
https://www.britishboxers.co.uk/2022/10 ... ood-chain/

polecateddy wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 08:52 No idea how he would ever get his theories through a court, even on a balance of probabilities level of proof when even the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs say the use of clomifene isn’t authorised in the UK for farming and only a very small proportion of eggs are imported to the UK. They outline that there’s no evidence of clomifene being in the British food chain. Conor… ‘well we have our theories!’ lol Sure you do son!
https://www.britishboxers.co.uk/2022/10 ... ood-chain/

I guess no one can say with any certainty it’s impossible to happen and if there’s that element of doubt then they will have to give the benefit of the doubt.

Controversial wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 09:34

polecateddy wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 08:52 No idea how he would ever get his theories through a court, even on a balance of probabilities level of proof when even the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs say the use of clomifene isn’t authorised in the UK for farming and only a very small proportion of eggs are imported to the UK. They outline that there’s no evidence of clomifene being in the British food chain. Conor… ‘well we have our theories!’ lol Sure you do son!
https://www.britishboxers.co.uk/2022/10 ... ood-chain/

I guess no one can say with any certainty it’s impossible to happen and if there’s that element of doubt then they will have to give the benefit of the doubt.

It should be reasonable doubt rather than any doubt. There can be "an element doubt" for anything. He could have pumped every PED under the sun into his body and just say that someone did it to him when he was asleep or he was spiked which would cause the tiniest bit of doubt but would be so farfetched that it should not affect the investigation.

If he does fight on PED free now, he’s likely to have suppressed testosterone levels and look like garbage anyway. I can’t see much of a fruitful career ahead whatever happens.

If he fights again, he should be asked, in every post fight interview, why the results of the two tests were concealed.

This is an offence in itself.

joshj909 wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 09:41

Controversial wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 09:34

polecateddy wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 08:52 No idea how he would ever get his theories through a court, even on a balance of probabilities level of proof when even the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs say the use of clomifene isn’t authorised in the UK for farming and only a very small proportion of eggs are imported to the UK. They outline that there’s no evidence of clomifene being in the British food chain. Conor… ‘well we have our theories!’ lol Sure you do son!
https://www.britishboxers.co.uk/2022/10 ... ood-chain/

I guess no one can say with any certainty it’s impossible to happen and if there’s that element of doubt then they will have to give the benefit of the doubt.

It should be reasonable doubt rather than any doubt. There can be "an element doubt" for anything. He could have pumped every PED under the sun into his body and just say that someone did it to him when he was asleep or he was spiked which would cause the tiniest bit of doubt but would be so farfetched that it should not affect the investigation.

Yeah I agree but if he argues he was eating loads and loads of eggs and they have evidence trace amounts can be found in eggs and they were buying them in batch from abroad then maybe enough to cloud the issue. I guess it depends on how much was in his system, if literally a tiny trace amount then maybe hard to argue the point

Controversial wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 11:39

joshj909 wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 09:41

Controversial wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 09:34

I guess no one can say with any certainty it’s impossible to happen and if there’s that element of doubt then they will have to give the benefit of the doubt.

It should be reasonable doubt rather than any doubt. There can be "an element doubt" for anything. He could have pumped every PED under the sun into his body and just say that someone did it to him when he was asleep or he was spiked which would cause the tiniest bit of doubt but would be so farfetched that it should not affect the investigation.

Yeah I agree but if he argues he was eating loads and loads of eggs and they have evidence trace amounts can be found in eggs and they were buying them in batch from abroad then maybe enough to cloud the issue. I guess it depends on how much was in his system, if literally a tiny trace amount then maybe hard to argue the point

Import/exporters of eggs are regulated and inspected regularly. If government agencies are saying clomifene isn’t in the British food chain, then it’s got some weight behind it. Benn chucking in some obscure studies that were never even conducted in the UK isn’t particularly compelling.

tony1234 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 15:26

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 15:18 having no licence in the uk will be a bigger deal for now, as if he's gonna challenge spence for the wbc anytime soon

He won't sell a bean outside the UK , and in the UK he's become unmarketable unless people want to see him on his backside in a fight

His dad did alright in the states.

polecateddy wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 12:08

Controversial wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 11:39

joshj909 wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 09:41

It should be reasonable doubt rather than any doubt. There can be "an element doubt" for anything. He could have pumped every PED under the sun into his body and just say that someone did it to him when he was asleep or he was spiked which would cause the tiniest bit of doubt but would be so farfetched that it should not affect the investigation.

Yeah I agree but if he argues he was eating loads and loads of eggs and they have evidence trace amounts can be found in eggs and they were buying them in batch from abroad then maybe enough to cloud the issue. I guess it depends on how much was in his system, if literally a tiny trace amount then maybe hard to argue the point

Import/exporters of eggs are regulated and inspected regularly. If government agencies are saying clomifene isn’t in the British food chain, then it’s got some weight behind it. Benn chucking in some obscure studies that were never even conducted in the UK isn’t particularly compelling.

Of course and we all know how it sounds and how unlikely it is, I don’t know what levels were found or what counter arguments were put up though, as a lot have said coupled with procedural errors it can be made to look different

Controversial wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 13:19

polecateddy wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 12:08

Controversial wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 11:39

Yeah I agree but if he argues he was eating loads and loads of eggs and they have evidence trace amounts can be found in eggs and they were buying them in batch from abroad then maybe enough to cloud the issue. I guess it depends on how much was in his system, if literally a tiny trace amount then maybe hard to argue the point

Import/exporters of eggs are regulated and inspected regularly. If government agencies are saying clomifene isn’t in the British food chain, then it’s got some weight behind it. Benn chucking in some obscure studies that were never even conducted in the UK isn’t particularly compelling.

Of course and we all know how it sounds and how unlikely it is, I don’t know what levels were found or what counter arguments was put up though, as a lot have said coupled with procedural errors it can be made to look different

The counter-argument and procedural error approach would of course have to fit having an adverse/failed test TWICE!

Pretty unanimous in everyone's opinion that Benn is a PED head then, I'm still a bit skeptical I like to give people the benefit of the doubt in any walk of life, call me naive but we'll see I suppose, I'm not a total gullible idiot, I'm leaning towards him being guilty and finding a loophole but I'll reserve my judgment for when the facts come out, I did mention the WBC are crooks earlier in the thread but at same time Eddie and Mauricio have had their differences , I'd also be a bit surprised to see Mauricio miss an opportunity to push Eddie and one of his key guys under the bus

polecateddy wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 13:34

Controversial wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 13:19

polecateddy wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 12:08

Import/exporters of eggs are regulated and inspected regularly. If government agencies are saying clomifene isn’t in the British food chain, then it’s got some weight behind it. Benn chucking in some obscure studies that were never even conducted in the UK isn’t particularly compelling.

Of course and we all know how it sounds and how unlikely it is, I don’t know what levels were found or what counter arguments was put up though, as a lot have said coupled with procedural errors it can be made to look different

The counter-argument and procedural error approach would of course have to fit having an adverse/failed test TWICE!

Ha yep! Do you know if eggs are the only food source it could be in or are the other things someone could eat or drink that could make it show in their system?

This study will be the cornerstone of that 270 page sprawl I’d imagine. It’s mentioned here but not sure if the follow ups ever were properly carried out; https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resources/f ... ene-doping

…so eggs and poultry meat seems to be the focus.

The athlete has the responsibility to know what he puts in his body.

Not knowing that his chicken and eggs are full of substances on the banned list is no defence

there are 26 billion chickens in the world......conor better watch his back with all this slandering

wouldnt want him to end up alone in a dark alley with these dudes