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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 09:57 Did anyone wanna vote on Bakole-Hulk?

I would but only to move Bakole down.

Not sure anyone would consider including Rozanski but he honestly isn't miles off.

joshj909 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:00

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 09:57 Did anyone wanna vote on Bakole-Hulk?

I would but only to move Bakole down.

Not sure anyone would consider including Rozanski but he honestly isn't miles off.

Where would you put him? Below Sanchez?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:05

joshj909 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:00

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 09:57 Did anyone wanna vote on Bakole-Hulk?

I would but only to move Bakole down.

Not sure anyone would consider including Rozanski but he honestly isn't miles off.

Where would you put him? Below Sanchez?

It's tough because I'd have Ortiz and Pulev out altogether and below Bakole but would have Bakole below Chisora and Hrgovic. Maybe Bakole down to 15 and hope that Pulev and Ortiz are voted out soon? Or alternatively down below Sanchez and hope Hrgovic is voted up soon.

Probably do a vote on Pulev soon tbh.

Chisora seems finished with boxing, especially as a contender. Seems like it’s just for him.

A big refresh with voting on Ortiz, Pulev and Chisora going out with the option of voting three new guys in could be good to freshen it up a bit.

joshj909 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:42 A big refresh with voting on Ortiz, Pulev and Chisora going out with the option of voting three new guys in could be good to freshen it up a bit.

The problem recently is, we're not voting boxers high enough when they enter the rankings

and then we have voters who are scared to drop the likes of Chisora and Pulev low.

Had Anderson or Efe been voted in at #14 instead of #15, then they wouldn't have dropped ot to make way for Zhang.

Guys like Chisora, Pulev and Ortiz are not gonna be fighting as often as guys like Efe and Anderson and other prospects, which is a good thing.. Eventually, the less active boxers will get faded out.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 11:16

joshj909 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:42 A big refresh with voting on Ortiz, Pulev and Chisora going out with the option of voting three new guys in could be good to freshen it up a bit.

The problem recently is, we're not voting boxers high enough when they enter the rankings

and then we have voters who are scared to drop the likes of Chisora and Pulev low.

Had Anderson or Efe been voted in at #14 instead of #15, then they wouldn't have dropped ot to make way for Zhang.

Guys like Chisora, Pulev and Ortiz are not gonna be fighting as often as guys like Efe and Anderson and other prospects, which is a good thing.. Eventually, the less active boxers will get faded out.

The problem with this is the mess of 9-15 at the moment. Some new guys should be above some but below others and it makes it difficult to pick them.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:27 Probably do a vote on Pulev soon tbh.

Chisora seems finished with boxing, especially as a contender. Seems like it’s just for him.

These are the top 15 in order of when their 12 months is up before voting out.
Pulev,Usyk Joshua and have 3 to 4 months to sign a contract to fight or be dropped form the ratings

2023
Pulev July 9th
Usyk August 4th
Ortiz September 4th
Ruiz September 4th
Wilder October 15th
Whyte November 26th
Chisora December 3rd
Fury December 3rd

2024
Parker January 21st
Joshua April 1st
Sanchez April 4th
Zhang April 15th
Joyce April 15th
Bakole April 22nd

tiny_acres wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 13:21

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:27 Probably do a vote on Pulev soon tbh.

Chisora seems finished with boxing, especially as a contender. Seems like it’s just for him.

These are the top 15 in order of when their 12 months is up before voting out.
Pulev,Usyk Joshua and have 3 to 4 months to sign a contract to fight or be dropped form the ratings

2023
Pulev July 9th
Usyk August 4th
Joshua August 4th
Ortiz September 4th
Ruiz September 4th
Wilder October 15th
Whyte November 26th
Chisora December 3rd
Fury December 3rd

2024
Parker January 21st
Sanchez April 4th
Zhang April 15th
Joyce April 15th
Bakole April 22nd

I think several of these fighters will be dropped out even if temporarily this year. For inactivity

tiny_acres wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 13:21

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:27 Probably do a vote on Pulev soon tbh.

Chisora seems finished with boxing, especially as a contender. Seems like it’s just for him.

These are the top 15 in order of when their 12 months is up before voting out.
Pulev,Usyk Joshua and have 3 to 4 months to sign a contract to fight or be dropped form the ratings

2023
Pulev July 9th
Usyk August 4th
Joshua August 4th
Ortiz September 4th
Ruiz September 4th
Wilder October 15th
Whyte November 26th
Chisora December 3rd
Fury December 3rd

2024
Parker January 21st
Sanchez April 4th
Zhang April 15th
Joyce April 15th
Bakole April 22nd

Joshua fought April 1st.

cpx2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 07:50

tiny_acres wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 13:21

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:27 Probably do a vote on Pulev soon tbh.

Chisora seems finished with boxing, especially as a contender. Seems like it’s just for him.

These are the top 15 in order of when their 12 months is up before voting out.
Pulev,Usyk Joshua and have 3 to 4 months to sign a contract to fight or be dropped form the ratings

2023
Pulev July 9th
Usyk August 4th
Joshua August 4th
Ortiz September 4th
Ruiz September 4th
Wilder October 15th
Whyte November 26th
Chisora December 3rd
Fury December 3rd

2024
Parker January 21st
Sanchez April 4th
Zhang April 15th
Joyce April 15th
Bakole April 22nd

Joshua fought April 1st.

You are correct. I will change that.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 07:55

cpx2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 07:50

tiny_acres wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 13:21
These are the top 15 in order of when their 12 months is up before voting out.
Pulev,Usyk Joshua and have 3 to 4 months to sign a contract to fight or be dropped form the ratings

2023
Pulev July 9th
Usyk August 4th
Joshua August 4th
Ortiz September 4th
Ruiz September 4th
Wilder October 15th
Whyte November 26th
Chisora December 3rd
Fury December 3rd

2024
Parker January 21st
Sanchez April 4th
Zhang April 15th
Joyce April 15th
Bakole April 22nd

Joshua fought April 1st.

You are correct. I will change that.

usyk then obviously too.

sorry. he did nat. got it wrong.

Zhan vs. Anderson agreed for July 1.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 14:01 Zhan vs. Anderson agreed for July 1.

Definitely one for us to look at. Fair play for making that, I would’ve thought it would be Pulev or Ajagba, if they went for someone risky Makhmudov would’ve seemed a more obvious choice?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 14:01 Zhan vs. Anderson agreed for July 1.

Very interesting fight. Think we all enjoy it when unbeaten prospects face each other before they are at world level.

Winner cracks top 15 for me.

joshj909 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 14:08

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 14:01 Zhan vs. Anderson agreed for July 1.

Very interesting fight. Think we all enjoy it when unbeaten prospects face each other before they are at world level.

Winner cracks top 15 for me.

Winner cracks top 10 for me. (Unless it’s razor thin controversial decision).

No matter what way it goes it will be one of the best heavyweight wins in the last few years. These guys arnt ranked due to resumes but I wouldn’t hesitate to put them in my actually top 15 on anbility, and I’d currently have both favourite Vs half the people on our list.

I think winner being top 15 is a good call. A top 20 guy against a top 30 guy, both prospects, warrants a top 15 spot. Always prefer resume over hype.

Voting him into top 15 after beating an untested bridger weight was cringe

New fight alert!

Joseph Parker - 31(21) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 24.05.2023 vs. Faiga ‘Django’ Opelu - 15(11) 3(2) 2 - (BoxRec's #55)

NIce, so we have 4 interesting fights scheduled before the 1st half of the year ends. Hope they don't get cancelled and some more are added.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 11:16

joshj909 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:42 A big refresh with voting on Ortiz, Pulev and Chisora going out with the option of voting three new guys in could be good to freshen it up a bit.

The problem recently is, we're not voting boxers high enough when they enter the rankings

and then we have voters who are scared to drop the likes of Chisora and Pulev low.

Had Anderson or Efe been voted in at #14 instead of #15, then they wouldn't have dropped ot to make way for Zhang.

Guys like Chisora, Pulev and Ortiz are not gonna be fighting as often as guys like Efe and Anderson and other prospects, which is a good thing.. Eventually, the less active boxers will get faded out.

That's pur biggest problem Ruthie, they are all inactive!
Ortiz, Ruiz, Pulev, Sanchez, and who else hasn't fought yet this year?
And the ones that have, will they fight again by December?
It's maddening
I've watched glaciers move faster than the HW division!

Sanchez just had a (horrible) fight a couple of weeks ago.

Makhmudov Vs. Akpejiori added to the Jared Anderson card. Nice fight I must say!

tiny_acres wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 13:21

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 10:27 Probably do a vote on Pulev soon tbh.

Chisora seems finished with boxing, especially as a contender. Seems like it’s just for him.

These are the top 15 in order of when their 12 months is up before voting out.
Pulev,Usyk Joshua and have 3 to 4 months to sign a contract to fight or be dropped form the ratings

2023
Pulev July 9th
Usyk August 4th
Ortiz September 4th
Ruiz September 4th
Wilder October 15th
Whyte November 26th
Chisora December 3rd
Fury December 3rd

2024
Parker January 21st
Joshua April 1st
Sanchez April 4th
Zhang April 15th
Joyce April 15th
Bakole April 22nd

Nice list, appreciate the effort
Pretty sure Pulev and Ortiz are not going to be fighting anyone of note, if at all. Ortiz has to hang them up or risk his future health.

CMCanavessi wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 15:14 Sanchez just had a (horrible) fight a couple of weeks ago.

You mean Martz?
at least it didn't drag on!