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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 13:52
by jwfg
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 12:34 Usyk's victories over AJ were of the 115-113 and 116-112 margin right?

So that would mean Fury would only need to do a little bit better to retain his title. It's hard to imagine he's not capable of that, that being said as of this moment I still favor Usyk.
Agreed, I favor Usyk also. I also think he employs fight management. He knows he doesn't have to win every round, so he doesn't try to. A lot of the ATGs did the same.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 16:06
by KiwiRider
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 13:52
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 12:34 Usyk's victories over AJ were of the 115-113 and 116-112 margin right?

So that would mean Fury would only need to do a little bit better to retain his title. It's hard to imagine he's not capable of that, that being said as of this moment I still favor Usyk.
Agreed, I favor Usyk also. I also think he employs fight management. He knows he doesn't have to win every round, so he doesn't try to. A lot of the ATGs did the same.
Also Fury doesn't do well against smaller, mobile guys as seen with Cunningham, and admitted by Tyson himself.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 16:13
by jwfg
KiwiRider wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:06
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 13:52
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 12:34 Usyk's victories over AJ were of the 115-113 and 116-112 margin right?

So that would mean Fury would only need to do a little bit better to retain his title. It's hard to imagine he's not capable of that, that being said as of this moment I still favor Usyk.
Agreed, I favor Usyk also. I also think he employs fight management. He knows he doesn't have to win every round, so he doesn't try to. A lot of the ATGs did the same.
Also Fury doesn't do well against smaller, mobile guys as seen with Cunningham, and admitted by Tyson himself.
:TU: I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk put him on the floor at some point.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 16:17
by KiwiRider
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:13
KiwiRider wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:06
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 13:52

Agreed, I favor Usyk also. I also think he employs fight management. He knows he doesn't have to win every round, so he doesn't try to. A lot of the ATGs did the same.
Also Fury doesn't do well against smaller, mobile guys as seen with Cunningham, and admitted by Tyson himself.
:TU: I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk put him on the floor at some point.
It would have to be late, after a sustained attack. The shots that have dropped him seem a little more than Uysk throws. :maybe:

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 16:29
by coneye
KiwiRider wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:17
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:13
KiwiRider wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:06

Also Fury doesn't do well against smaller, mobile guys as seen with Cunningham, and admitted by Tyson himself.
:TU: I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk put him on the floor at some point.
It would have to be late, after a sustained attack. The shots that have dropped him seem a little more than Uysk throws. :maybe:
Agreed , if there was one thing that was said about Francis prior to this bollocks , its that he had heavy hands

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 17:01
by SeanBrennan
Francis has been so classy after too, no screeching about it regardless.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 17:05
by jwfg
KiwiRider wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:17
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:13
KiwiRider wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:06

Also Fury doesn't do well against smaller, mobile guys as seen with Cunningham, and admitted by Tyson himself.
:TU: I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk put him on the floor at some point.
It would have to be late, after a sustained attack. The shots that have dropped him seem a little more than Uysk throws. :maybe:
I think Fury's punch resistance is waning and heavyweight Usyk hits as hard as Neven Pajkic and Steve Cunningham. Usyk might not hit hard, but he's accurate. For me, the BIG thing is..... can Fury raise his mental game back to where it needs to be.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 17:11
by SeanBrennan
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 17:05
KiwiRider wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:17
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 16:13

:TU: I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk put him on the floor at some point.
It would have to be late, after a sustained attack. The shots that have dropped him seem a little more than Uysk throws. :maybe:
I think Fury's punch resistance is waning and heavyweight Usyk hits as hard as Neven Pajkic and Steve Cunningham. Usyk might not hit hard, but he's accurate. For me, the BIG thing is..... can Fury raise his mental game back to where it needs to be.
I think this is much more likely than people who say he's always been rubbish. He's been brilliant at times, but something really seemed amiss last fight. And might have been so vs Whyte if Whyte had offered anything other than haymakers seen 4 years before being thrown. We'll find out next time he gets hit properly if it is punch resistance decline or a one off.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 20:02
by big lennox
Pushed back to February. It's just not going to happen, is it!?


Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 20:17
by The Gratest
big lennox wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 20:02 Pushed back to February. It's just not going to happen, is it!?

I can spot 3 cu ts.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 22:11
by margaret thatcher
can hardly tell if fury is standing with usyk or paris there

also bob sure doing a good job of looking like a creep :lol:

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 04:55
by BigDoofus
big lennox wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 20:02 Pushed back to February. It's just not going to happen, is it!?

Yes it is. When is Joshua-Wilder put back to?

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 05:08
by The Gratest
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You'd have been as well writing 'I am massively butthurt and have been crying non-stop since Saturday night and hiding from the forum in shame :cry: '

Poor little Doofy. There, there, there, everything's going to be OK...maybe...or maybe not.....

🦆

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 05:11
by The Gratest
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:27
The Gratest wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:21 I think the only way to get round all this without looking too bad is to mention Anthony Joshua.
Is he still in his dark room? Has he lost the key and now accidentally locked in? Will he eventually emerge with a lion's mane and deep roar? Fury's bois need to zero in on this now!
this one was one of my faves. redback rasta randomly posting comments robert garcia made months ago, mistakenly thinking it was aj who made them, them bitching at AJ for being disrespectful to garcia with the comments garcia actually made himself. so f@cking eager to get at joshua :lol:

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Redback Rasta wrote: 16 Aug 2023, 23:17 Joshua trainer bashing AGAIN

“When you’re with a fighter everything is going well then at the end something goes wrong and the first one to blame is the trainer.”

“The way it was going, the people involved, things they were doing to prepare for a fight, things were going on in training camp I would just sit and laugh by myself.

I told the management team can you just please fly me home I’m not going to be part of this, they convinced me to stay, change things around, which I did – I changed things around and we ended up doing good.

But one week into camp I was ready to leave camp so if that was the case [that they weren’t happy with me] they should have sent me home when I wanted to go.”

Comment : Is this guy ever going to take responsibility for his failures? I doubt it.
Lol. Both at it now.
I'm going to change my username to Nostrildamnus :bow:

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 05:47
by big lennox
big lennox wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 20:02 Pushed back to February. It's just not going to happen, is it!?

Why isn't there an actual date? What if Fury gets injured between now and February and the fight slips past Riyahd season?

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 05:57
by The Gratest
I know a few people who were looking forward to this fight. :verysad:
Any word if Usyk will sue Fury? I can't imagine he'd stoop to that level.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 05:59
by The Gratest
big lennox wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 05:47
big lennox wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 20:02 Pushed back to February. It's just not going to happen, is it!?

Why isn't there an actual date? What if Fury gets injured between now and February and the fight slips past Riyahd season?
Might need to confirm Tyson's annual family holiday to Tenerife first.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 06:15
by jwfg
big lennox wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 20:02 Pushed back to February. It's just not going to happen, is it!?

Strange that, Fury himself said he didn't have any cuts and took his cap off to prove it.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 09:19
by polecateddy
I can’t see Fury being on a strict diet over the Christmas period. He loves his cake! I think as per usual the Usyk stuff is make believe press content to stay relevant.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 11:07
by Boxerbeetle
Fury ducks, what a surprise.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 11:16
by The Asleep Lamps
He isn't going to duck him. Everything is proceeding perfectly :TU: . My only lament is that Joshua Wilder might get cast aside now for either man vs Ngannou. :-x :lol:

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 11:24
by Frostieballs
Fury is going to sue himself for not fighting on December 23rd.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 11:45
by tony1234
I thought this had to be on Dec 23rd as it had to tie in with the final of the FIFA Club Cup Final the day before ? I wonder if the Saudi's will get fed up with Fury mucking them around and want other fights ?

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 11:52
by jwfg
Frostieballs wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 11:24 Fury is going to sue himself for not fighting on December 23rd.
He does make himself look like a prize plum sometimes.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 12:13
by Frostieballs
tony1234 wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 11:45 I thought this had to be on Dec 23rd as it had to tie in with the final of the FIFA Club Cup Final the day before ? I wonder if the Saudi's will get fed up with Fury mucking them around and want other fights ?
I will accept AJ - Wilder in on the 23rd December and Fury-Usyk in February.

Ngannou fights both winners on the same night in April!