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is Bivol Bet definitely confirmed? i want to know before i get too excited

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 03:05 is Bivol Bet definitely confirmed? i want to know before i get too excited

yes the whole card is

Don’t get me wrong, this is gonna be a fantastic night: a main event for the ages ( we hope ) with a lead up involving some of the best talent around being showcased.
just when it’s compared to that peerless American card with Bud Crawford recently, it doesn’t stack up.

But what the hell, this Turku guy is something else. Like a dream.

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 00:57

Coco wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 17:40

samwbr wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 16:27
How much does CBS get in the UK for a sell out fight v Opetaia on PPV and what is Saudi paying them as a 3rd or 4th on the bill?

It will be very expensive bringing Opetala to Bournemouth, when he is the headliner and used to Saudi money.
After McGuigans cut he won't be left with much.
I just can't think of a good reason why he turned the Saudis down.

If the reports are correct Jai earnt less for the Breidis fight than the Zorro fight. Him v CBS is big money on PPV in the UK and headline. CBS might see it as his last fight so wants to go out at home.

PPV is PPV whatever the country the bout is held in.

Or CBS has already earned so much that he wants to give the fans a homecoming?
Despite only ever boxing at home!!

Coco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 04:48

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 00:57

Coco wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 17:40

It will be very expensive bringing Opetala to Bournemouth, when he is the headliner and used to Saudi money.
After McGuigans cut he won't be left with much.
I just can't think of a good reason why he turned the Saudis down.

If the reports are correct Jai earnt less for the Breidis fight than the Zorro fight. Him v CBS is big money on PPV in the UK and headline. CBS might see it as his last fight so wants to go out at home.

PPV is PPV whatever the country the bout is held in.

Or CBS has already earned so much that he wants to give the fans a homecoming?
Despite only ever boxing at home!!

Headline fight in Bournemouth, last hurrah, a huge night top of the bill. Opetaia is a proper undercard slot in Saudi, and currently suspended by the BBoC.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 03:09

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 03:05 is Bivol Bet definitely confirmed? i want to know before i get too excited

yes the whole card is

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 07:49

Coco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 04:48

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 00:57
If the reports are correct Jai earnt less for the Breidis fight than the Zorro fight. Him v CBS is big money on PPV in the UK and headline. CBS might see it as his last fight so wants to go out at home.

PPV is PPV whatever the country the bout is held in.

Or CBS has already earned so much that he wants to give the fans a homecoming?
Despite only ever boxing at home!!

Headline fight in Bournemouth, last hurrah, a huge night top of the bill. Opetaia is a proper undercard slot in Saudi, and currently suspended by the BBoC.

Boxing is a job, it's about earning, Saudi paydays are much bigger than elsewhere, hell even enough money for Fast Car and FW to work together.

PPV will be be bigger if the fight is made as most people won't be able to go

And are you saying the reason CBS wants the fight in the UK not Saudi is because Opetati currently has his British licence suspended????

Come on, seriously give me a good reason CBS turned the fight down?

The fight would have first been mentioned a couple of weeks ago, plenty of time to get in shape

Coco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 07:59

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 07:49

Coco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 04:48

PPV is PPV whatever the country the bout is held in.

Or CBS has already earned so much that he wants to give the fans a homecoming?
Despite only ever boxing at home!!

Headline fight in Bournemouth, last hurrah, a huge night top of the bill. Opetaia is a proper undercard slot in Saudi, and currently suspended by the BBoC.

Boxing is a job, it's about earning, Saudi paydays are much bigger than elsewhere, hell even enough money for Fast Car and FW to work together.

PPV will be be bigger if the fight is made as most people won't be able to go

And are you saying the reason CBS wants the fight in the UK not Saudi is because Opetati currently has his British licence suspended????

Come on, seriously give me a good reason CBS turned the fight down?

The fight would have first been mentioned a couple of weeks ago, plenty of time to get in shape

Home advantage. He's talked about how important his fans are to him in the past. How much are they getting paid to fight in the UK on a big PPV show as headline rather than fourth or fifth on the bill in Saudi? Opetaias last 2 purses are public knowledge btw.

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 08:05

Coco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 07:59

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 07:49
Headline fight in Bournemouth, last hurrah, a huge night top of the bill. Opetaia is a proper undercard slot in Saudi, and currently suspended by the BBoC.

Boxing is a job, it's about earning, Saudi paydays are much bigger than elsewhere, hell even enough money for Fast Car and FW to work together.

PPV will be be bigger if the fight is made as most people won't be able to go

And are you saying the reason CBS wants the fight in the UK not Saudi is because Opetati currently has his British licence suspended????

Come on, seriously give me a good reason CBS turned the fight down?

The fight would have first been mentioned a couple of weeks ago, plenty of time to get in shape

Home advantage. He's talked about how important his fans are to him in the past. How much are they getting paid to fight in the UK on a big PPV show as headline rather than fourth or fifth on the bill in Saudi? Opetaias last 2 purses are public knowledge btw.

Where else is CBS earning over 100k? He would earn a minimum of 7-800k for a unification in Saudi, probably a million.

The Australian has been earning half a million for fighting British area title holders

Coco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 08:11

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 08:05

Coco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 07:59

Boxing is a job, it's about earning, Saudi paydays are much bigger than elsewhere, hell even enough money for Fast Car and FW to work together.

PPV will be be bigger if the fight is made as most people won't be able to go

And are you saying the reason CBS wants the fight in the UK not Saudi is because Opetati currently has his British licence suspended????

Come on, seriously give me a good reason CBS turned the fight down?

The fight would have first been mentioned a couple of weeks ago, plenty of time to get in shape

Home advantage. He's talked about how important his fans are to him in the past. How much are they getting paid to fight in the UK on a big PPV show as headline rather than fourth or fifth on the bill in Saudi? Opetaias last 2 purses are public knowledge btw.

Where else is CBS earning over 100k? He would earn a minimum of 7-800k for a unification in Saudi, probably a million.

The Australian has been earning half a million for fighting British area title holders

He got 300k for Okolie and 600k for the Riakporhe fight.

I'm going to quote Boxing News (as it's in front of me):

Alalshikh has reportedly made a seven-figure offer for Opetaia and CBS to unify on the undercard of Beterbiev and Bicol on October 12th.

CBS told BN "I think they wanted in on October 12th and I'm not going to shorten my camp for anyone" and "Ideally, we'd want the Opetaia fight, but if he can only do October 12th and I can only do November/December then it's not going to happen".

Which translates as I don’t want to get flattened by Jai Opetaia

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 08:32

Coco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 08:11

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 08:05
Home advantage. He's talked about how important his fans are to him in the past. How much are they getting paid to fight in the UK on a big PPV show as headline rather than fourth or fifth on the bill in Saudi? Opetaias last 2 purses are public knowledge btw.

Where else is CBS earning over 100k? He would earn a minimum of 7-800k for a unification in Saudi, probably a million.

The Australian has been earning half a million for fighting British area title holders

He got 300k for Okolie and 600k for the Riakporhe fight.

What’s the source of those numbers?

samwbr wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 16:27

Coco wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 16:15

samwbr wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 15:01

He probably wants the fight in the UK. Can't blame him for that.

And earn 10% of the money, if it is true he has turned the fight down, something smells fishy

How much does CBS get in the UK for a sell out fight v Opetaia on PPV and what is Saudi paying them as a 3rd or 4th on the bill?

No chance CBS/Opetaia is a U.K. PPV headliner in the current climate.

As it stand this card needs at least one more big fight to make it a great one.

The main event is immense. For me this is one of the best fights for decades. Two unbeaten fighters, undisputed, Beterbiev knocking all his opponents out, just destroyed Smith, Bivol, younger, faster, just schooled Canelo like nobody's business. This a great fight

On the undercard Clarke v Wardley is great and I quite like the Stephenson v Cordina fight.

The rest is standard fare.. Womens boxing is of zero interest to me, especially when the two fighters have virtually no stoppages.

Obviously with that main event the card overall is quality, but they were gonna put this main event on the 5 v 5 card and that undercard was way better than this.

If they had put Eubank in with someone decent then fair enough, but this bloke he's in with is miles off the mark.

If they could bring in another heavyweight fight like Johnny Fisher are Itamou against some half decent test it would raise it significantly

maverick23 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 15:12

samwbr wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 16:27

Coco wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 16:15

And earn 10% of the money, if it is true he has turned the fight down, something smells fishy

How much does CBS get in the UK for a sell out fight v Opetaia on PPV and what is Saudi paying them as a 3rd or 4th on the bill?

No chance CBS/Opetaia is a U.K. PPV headliner in the current climate.

It's arguably the biggest fight in the division so would not rule it out given what they done before on sky

maverick23 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 15:10

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 08:32

Coco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 08:11

Where else is CBS earning over 100k? He would earn a minimum of 7-800k for a unification in Saudi, probably a million.

The Australian has been earning half a million for fighting British area title holders

He got 300k for Okolie and 600k for the Riakporhe fight.

What’s the source of those numbers?

The usual online reports. Opetaias were stated in court in Australia.

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 16:29

maverick23 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 15:12

samwbr wrote: ↑21 Aug 2024, 16:27
How much does CBS get in the UK for a sell out fight v Opetaia on PPV and what is Saudi paying them as a 3rd or 4th on the bill?

No chance CBS/Opetaia is a U.K. PPV headliner in the current climate.

It's arguably the biggest fight in the division so would not rule it out given what they done before on sky

It would do less than 100k buys. We’re in a completely different era now re: PPV in the U.K. It needs a name to do even semi decent numbers and even then it’s not easy given how easy it is for people to stream. CBS isn’t a big enough name to headline a PPV regardless of the opponent.

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 16:32

maverick23 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 15:10

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 08:32
He got 300k for Okolie and 600k for the Riakporhe fight.

What’s the source of those numbers?

The usual online reports. Opetaias were stated in court in Australia.

I don’t believe the CBS numbers. It would help explain why Boxxer struggling to/can’t afford to put on many shows though!

maverick23 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 16:57

samwbr wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 16:32

maverick23 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2024, 15:10

What’s the source of those numbers?

The usual online reports. Opetaias were stated in court in Australia.

I don’t believe the CBS numbers. It would help explain why Boxxer struggling to/can’t afford to put on many shows though!

I guess he is selling out stadiums… must have been a decent gate at Bournemouth.

Okalie fight got 15,000 attendance, approx a 750k gate
The fight at Crystal Palace did similar numbers, but as champ CBS would have had a bigger split of the purse.

As I said Jai was earning far more in Saudi for non title affairs v British area champs.

Says to me someone likes cycling

Had Opetaia-CBS taken place on this bill, it presumably would have been chief support, not buried down the bill, and they would have been paid accordingly,

It's not a great look for CBS to turn this one down.

magnus wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 12:39 Had Opetaia-CBS taken place on this bill, it presumably would have been chief support, not buried down the bill, and they would have been paid accordingly,

It's not a great look for CBS to turn this one down.

Or Opetaia knocks Massey in to orbit with another highlight reel and it hypes the fight even more.

samwbr wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 16:52

magnus wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 12:39 Had Opetaia-CBS taken place on this bill, it presumably would have been chief support, not buried down the bill, and they would have been paid accordingly,

It's not a great look for CBS to turn this one down.

Or Opetaia knocks Massey in to orbit with another highlight reel and it hypes the fight even more.

That's clearly CBSs plan.......

This doesn't even need an undercard. A brilliant match up in any era.