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mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 07:09 There are a lot of people saying that for a road warrior he seems very reluctant to face Fury in the UK.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 10:05

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 07:09 There are a lot of people saying that for a road warrior he seems very reluctant to face Fury in the UK.

Not sure why they are saying that. He beat Fury twice on neutral ground and has boxed four Brits is England. Probably casuals mate, just ignore them.

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 10:20

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 10:05

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 07:09 There are a lot of people saying that for a road warrior he seems very reluctant to face Fury in the UK.

Not sure why they are saying that. He beat Fury twice on neutral ground and has boxed four Brits is England. Probably casuals mate, just ignore them.

Nobody is saying it. It's just Mickey saying it. Fury has been dropped and considered retired by all four alphabet organizations, he hasn't had a win over a boxer in 3 years, is arguably on a three fight skid after robbing the debutant novice Ngannou, Usyk has already decisively beat him twice and with limited fights left due to his age the fans definitely want fresh fights after these unnecessary rematches.

Usyk facing Fury in England would only give Fury the advantage of the biased home crowd influencing the judges to falsely giving Fury rounds so if that's what Fury needs to win he clearly doesn't deserve it.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 11:46

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 10:20

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 10:05

Not sure why they are saying that. He beat Fury twice on neutral ground and has boxed four Brits is England. Probably casuals mate, just ignore them.

Nobody is saying it. It's just Mickey saying it. Fury has been dropped and considered retired by all four alphabet organizations, he hasn't had a win over a boxer in 3 years, is arguably on a three fight skid after robbing the debutant novice Ngannou, Usyk has already decisively beat him twice and with limited fights left due to his age the fans definitely want fresh fights after these unnecessary rematches.

Usyk facing Fury in England would only give Fury the advantage of the biased home crowd influencing the judges to falsely giving Fury rounds so if that's what Fury needs to win he clearly doesn't deserve it.

He is the Ring heavyweight number 1 contender...
I guess you don't rate Usyk then if a past it Tyson gave him two real hard workouts?

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 12:41 But realistically who has a better chance of beating Uysk?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 11:50

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 11:46

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 10:20

Nobody is saying it. It's just Mickey saying it. Fury has been dropped and considered retired by all four alphabet organizations, he hasn't had a win over a boxer in 3 years, is arguably on a three fight skid after robbing the debutant novice Ngannou, Usyk has already decisively beat him twice and with limited fights left due to his age the fans definitely want fresh fights after these unnecessary rematches.

Usyk facing Fury in England would only give Fury the advantage of the biased home crowd influencing the judges to falsely giving Fury rounds so if that's what Fury needs to win he clearly doesn't deserve it.

He is the Ring heavyweight number 1 contender...
I guess you don't rate Usyk then if a past it Tyson gave him two real hard workouts?

He’s not really number 1 contender. He’s just talked 2nd.

He hasn’t done anything to earn a 3rd fight.


He lost. The lost again.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:05

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 11:50

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 11:46
He is the Ring heavyweight number 1 contender...
I guess you don't rate Usyk then if a past it Tyson gave him two real hard workouts?

He’s not really number 1 contender. He’s just talked 2nd.

He hasn’t done anything to earn a 3rd fight.


He lost. The lost again.

He is literally the number one contender for the Ring belt. You've no doubt posted their rankings somewhere on the forum.

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:03

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 12:41 But realistically who has a better chance of beating Uysk?

Realistically, anyone that hasn't faced him and already lost once or twice

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:07 ring title and tyson fury, still lovers after all these years and losses

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:12

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:03

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 12:41 But realistically who has a better chance of beating Uysk?

Realistically, anyone that hasn't faced him and already lost once or twice

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:22

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:12

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:03

Realistically, anyone that hasn't faced him and already lost once or twice

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

sure, let's have any of those first 3 for example rather than yet another rematch or threematch, cant believe people would really want another of those

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:25

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:22

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:12

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

sure, let's have any of those first 3 for example rather than yet another rematch or threematch, cant believe people would really want another of those

I'm not saying what I would prefer to see, I am saying who is more likely to win

Other than Fury, who would be the underdog, the rest have little chance of winning

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:08

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:05

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 11:50

He’s not really number 1 contender. He’s just talked 2nd.

He hasn’t done anything to earn a 3rd fight.


He lost. The lost again.

He is literally the number one contender for the Ring belt. You've no doubt posted their rankings somewhere on the forum.

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:14

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:07 ring title and tyson fury, still lovers after all these years and losses

Don’t forget the Lineal belt.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:22

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:12

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:03

Realistically, anyone that hasn't faced him and already lost once or twice

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

sure, let's have any of those first 3 for example rather than yet another rematch or threematch, cant believe people would really want another of those

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:43

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:08

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:05
He is literally the number one contender for the Ring belt. You've no doubt posted their rankings somewhere on the forum.

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

Mate, I could pull up thousands of posts from almost everybody who all agree The Ring are the only respected ratings, it's been that way for years.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 14:01

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:43

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:08

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

Mate, I could pull up thousands of posts from almost everybody who all agree The Ring are the only respected ratings, it's been that way for years.

These are the best and least biased rankings out there. They are voted for by more than 50 industry insiders.

https://tbrb.org/mens-rankings

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:25

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:22

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:12

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

sure, let's have any of those first 3 for example rather than yet another rematch or threematch, cant believe people would really want another of those

I'm not saying what I would prefer to see, I am saying who is more likely to win

Other than Fury, who would be the underdog, the rest have little chance of winning

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:43

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:08

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:05
He is literally the number one contender for the Ring belt. You've no doubt posted their rankings somewhere on the forum.

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

Mate, I could pull up thousands of posts from almost everybody who all agree The Ring are the only respected ratings, it's been that way for years.

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 14:38

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:43

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 13:08

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

Mate, I could pull up thousands of posts from almost everybody who all agree The Ring are the only respected ratings, it's been that way for years.

Yes but they're not an official belt and don't have mandatories. The rankings can be good but they're no different from our rankings in the forum. Also, the champ has beaten the highest ranked Ring opponent twice in a row and that opponent hasn't faced anyone else since, obviously number 2 or even 3 gets a shot, right? Or does Usyk keep facing Fury until The Ring (Turki) decide they've seen enough?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 15:25 I have recently rewatched Kayabel vs Zhang/Big Mak/Sanchez and he stopped all three. Usually when heavies step up, they don't get as many stoppages, but Kayabel is the real deal.
I rate him as the #2 heavyweight right now.

If anyone challenges Uysk - it's him.