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Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:21
by keithmoonhangover
I have a feeling Wardley is going to be the crowd favourite tonight,
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:22
by gilgamesh
gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:18
overhand_right wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:04
So this is Olaniyan? Why's his belly so soft and jiggly? He's a professional full time athlete and he's 20.
FFS i thought Usyk had brought the curtain down on the era of long gangly goon-like fatties.
Without a weight limit and without drugs having a bit of jiggle is optimum for many body types. You just can’t train hard and consistently on a caloric deficit, and so for many the extra energy training is worth carrying around 10lb of padding…
Everyone that grew up watching little heavyweights in the 70s/80s or juiced as fornicate heavyweights in the 90s/2000s can’t recognise this and think everyone should have a 6pack…
That actually might make an interesting topic of discussion. Heavyweight Champions who were a little jiggly in the middle and Heavyweight Champions who had 6 pack abs. Which was their more of?
I'm pretty sure it's gonna be the 6 pack abs type guys, but I know we've had a few jiggly ones. Tyson Fury and Corrie Sanders spring to mind in that department.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:23
by gilgamesh
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:21
I have a feeling Wardley is going to be the crowd favourite tonight,
I'm a fan just because every fight he's been in for the last few years is Violent and Dramatic as hell. The kinda fights that drew me into the sport in the first place.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:24
by MightyWarrior
The way all the DAZN presenters kiss the promoters arses is just sickening
Zero quality control
Pioneered by Smith at sky
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:26
by keithmoonhangover
gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:23
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:21
I have a feeling Wardley is going to be the crowd favourite tonight,
I'm a fan just because every fight he's been in for the last few years is Violent and Dramatic as hell. The kinda fights that drew me into the sport in the first place.
Who was your first boxing hero?
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:28
by overhand_right
gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:18
overhand_right wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:04
So this is Olaniyan? Why's his belly so soft and jiggly? He's a professional full time athlete and he's 20.
FFS i thought Usyk had brought the curtain down on the era of long gangly goon-like fatties.
Without a weight limit and without drugs having a bit of jiggle is optimum for many body types. You just can’t train hard and consistently on a caloric deficit, and so for many the extra energy training is worth carrying around 10lb of padding…
Everyone that grew up watching little heavyweights in the 70s/80s or juiced as fornicate heavyweights in the 90s/2000s can’t recognise this and think everyone should have a 6pack…
Heavies have always been "without a weight limit" as you said but up until relatively recent times opted to train hard with the resultant athletic physique rather than be fat.
He's just fat. You don't need to knock great fighting men of the past to protect your chubby favourite. He will get upset on the way up because he's not serious.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:29
by keithmoonhangover
There aren't many boxers I don't like, but Gomez is one of 'em.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:29
by gilgamesh
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:26
gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:23
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:21
I have a feeling Wardley is going to be the crowd favourite tonight,
I'm a fan just because every fight he's been in for the last few years is Violent and Dramatic as hell. The kinda fights that drew me into the sport in the first place.
Who was your first boxing hero?
Gatti
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:32
by keithmoonhangover
gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:29
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:26
gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:23
I'm a fan just because every fight he's been in for the last few years is Violent and Dramatic as hell. The kinda fights that drew me into the sport in the first place.
Who was your first boxing hero?
Gatti
What's not to like.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:35
by JamesPhilips
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:29
There aren't many boxers I don't like, but Gomez is one of 'em.
I give him a pass because of who his dad was
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:37
by gregregegg
overhand_right wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:28
gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:18
overhand_right wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:04
So this is Olaniyan? Why's his belly so soft and jiggly? He's a professional full time athlete and he's 20.
FFS i thought Usyk had brought the curtain down on the era of long gangly goon-like fatties.
Without a weight limit and without drugs having a bit of jiggle is optimum for many body types. You just can’t train hard and consistently on a caloric deficit, and so for many the extra energy training is worth carrying around 10lb of padding…
Everyone that grew up watching little heavyweights in the 70s/80s or juiced as fornicate heavyweights in the 90s/2000s can’t recognise this and think everyone should have a 6pack…
Heavies have always been "without a weight limit" as you said but up until relatively recent times opted to train hard with the resultant athletic physique rather than be fat.
He's just fat. You don't need to knock great fighting men of the past to protect your chubby favourite. He will get upset on the way up because he's not serious.
I don’t know the kid at all. Just saying if having Abs was optimum for him my guess is he would have abs. I don’t buy that he is just lazy when there are potentialy millions of dollars on the table.
Not many top guys have had those Holyfield abs In The last 10 years… I don’t think that’s a laziness thing… I think it’s a PED testing thing…
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:41
by overhand_right
Note to defenders of Jalolov and Olaniyan:
Gomez jr is what a serious, in-shape prizefighter looks like.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:43
by overhand_right
gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:37
overhand_right wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:28
gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:18
Without a weight limit and without drugs having a bit of jiggle is optimum for many body types. You just can’t train hard and consistently on a caloric deficit, and so for many the extra energy training is worth carrying around 10lb of padding…
Everyone that grew up watching little heavyweights in the 70s/80s or juiced as fornicate heavyweights in the 90s/2000s can’t recognise this and think everyone should have a 6pack…
Heavies have always been "without a weight limit" as you said but up until relatively recent times opted to train hard with the resultant athletic physique rather than be fat.
He's just fat. You don't need to knock great fighting men of the past to protect your chubby favourite. He will get upset on the way up because he's not serious.
I don’t know the kid at all. Just saying if having Abs was optimum for him my guess is he would have abs. I don’t buy that he is just lazy when there are potentialy millions of dollars on the table.
Not many top guys have had those Holyfield abs In The last 10 years… I don’t think that’s a laziness thing… I think it’s a PED testing thing…
You don't think today's fighters are on PEDs?
Have you come from outer space or something?
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:46
by Kilburn
Speaking of which, there was a lot of chat on here last time about Gomez Jr being on the gear.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:46
by Ruthless-RKO
Who won the Jalalov fight?
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:46
by jameswilson
O’Doherty getting tagged but also in the close clinches Gomez is managing to shove him and work him where he wants in the clinches.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:46
by jameswilson
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:46
Who won the Jalalov fight?
Not the fans.
(Jalolov UD.)
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:48
by Kilburn
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:46
Who won the Jalalov fight?
I can’t actually remember it clearly but I think it was Jalalov.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:50
by JamesPhilips
gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:37
overhand_right wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:28
gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:18
Without a weight limit and without drugs having a bit of jiggle is optimum for many body types. You just can’t train hard and consistently on a caloric deficit, and so for many the extra energy training is worth carrying around 10lb of padding…
Everyone that grew up watching little heavyweights in the 70s/80s or juiced as fornicate heavyweights in the 90s/2000s can’t recognise this and think everyone should have a 6pack…
Heavies have always been "without a weight limit" as you said but up until relatively recent times opted to train hard with the resultant athletic physique rather than be fat.
He's just fat. You don't need to knock great fighting men of the past to protect your chubby favourite. He will get upset on the way up because he's not serious.
I don’t know the kid at all. Just saying if having Abs was optimum for him my guess is he would have abs. I don’t buy that he is just lazy when there are potentialy millions of dollars on the table.
Not many top guys have had those Holyfield abs In The last 10 years… I don’t think that’s a laziness thing… I think it’s a PED testing thing…
I am always suspicious of heavies that look fatty. Tubbs, Witherspoon, Tate, Douglas, Andy Ruiz would’ve surely been better without that lard. Tyson fury seems to be an exception but he looked better when he was in better shape. Holmes also may be an exception. Bowe also was way better when he was trim.
As to what heavyweights have looked in shape - Wlad, Vitali, Lennox, Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Rahman, Maskaev, Wilder, Haye - there are plenty of them
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:50
by gb
Kilburn wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:46
Speaking of which, there was a lot of chat on here last time about Gomez Jr being on the gear.
He's dodgy as hell. Been a bit crap most of his career, and then suddenly becomes a bit of a monster in his thirties.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:53
by jameswilson
Gomez is leaning his head forward in a clever way as it’s forcing O’Doherty to either go on the back foot, come forward and lean his head into him and get warned for the heads or come forward and lean his head to one side and whenever he’s doing this Gomez is tagging him with uppercuts.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:54
by CaptainSpacerod
Yep Gomez is very suspicious.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:56
by Kilburn
Gatti along with Holyfield are my boxing heroes.
Gatti was like a video game fighter, ridiculous endurance level to go with his skill. Obviously relied on the former way too much, but it served up a career of non stop highlights.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:56
by rd350lc
How many low blows is Gomez going to get away with?.
Re: Round-by-Round: Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley II | DAZN - 17 October 2026
Posted: 17 Oct 2026, 16:57
by Kilburn
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:50
gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:37
overhand_right wrote: ↑17 Oct 2026, 16:28
Heavies have always been "without a weight limit" as you said but up until relatively recent times opted to train hard with the resultant athletic physique rather than be fat.
He's just fat. You don't need to knock great fighting men of the past to protect your chubby favourite. He will get upset on the way up because he's not serious.
I don’t know the kid at all. Just saying if having Abs was optimum for him my guess is he would have abs. I don’t buy that he is just lazy when there are potentialy millions of dollars on the table.
Not many top guys have had those Holyfield abs In The last 10 years… I don’t think that’s a laziness thing… I think it’s a PED testing thing…
I am always suspicious of heavies that look fatty. Tubbs, Witherspoon, Tate, Douglas, Andy Ruiz would’ve surely been better without that lard. Tyson fury seems to be an exception but he looked better when he was in better shape. Holmes also may be an exception. Bowe also was way better when he was trim.
As to what heavyweights have looked in shape - Wlad, Vitali, Lennox, Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Rahman, Maskaev, Wilder, Haye - there are plenty of them
Don’t forget Lou Monaco.