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Gary Sykes ex trainer has good videos.

Glass Joe wrote: ↑05 Jul 2023, 15:26

Gary Sykes ex trainer has good videos.

Thanks Joe, that was concise and informative.

Blueprint wrote: ↑05 Jul 2023, 15:11

dookus wrote: ↑05 Jul 2023, 03:48

Blueprint wrote: ↑04 Jul 2023, 18:10 The scientific evidence is very compelling. No idea what people were expecting, but If they can prove his faulty gene causes chlomofine storage, and the positive samples are consistent with egg contamination, this could clear him.

Without strong supporting evidence, it doesn't sound very compelling to me. How can they possibly distinguish metabolites of clomiphene from contaminated eggs vs from intentional ingestion when it's the same basic substance?

They doctor in that video cited a study commissioned by Wada. Apparently they produce different metabolytes to one another. Apparently Benns's metaboloytes are consistent with the egg contamination athletes.

That's interesting, there are studies that show it may be possible to distinguish the two. For example https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35341524/

Question now then is: how sound is the conclusion that his metabolites are consistent with egg contamination rather than doping? That'll depend heavily on the test results themselves, and what his team has tested to determine which metabolites were present at the time of the failed test (bearing in mind that up until now, their case has been that the VADA samples - the ones that matter - must have been contaminated).

Apparently UKAD set to rule on this next week. Funny how there is sudden urgency now.

As I said before, he will be fighting by the end of the year, probably against Eubank.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 07:37 Apparently UKAD set to rule on this next week. Funny how there is sudden urgency now.

As I said before, he will be fighting by the end of the year, probably against Eubank.

And prob in Dubai

Frostieballs wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 07:37 Apparently UKAD set to rule on this next week. Funny how there is sudden urgency now.

As I said before, he will be fighting by the end of the year, probably against Eubank.

I wonder how thorough UKAD will be/can be given the timeframe of this new evidence. Surprisingly Simon Jordan appeared to be taken in by the new story as a potentially justifiable reason for clomiphene being in Benn’ system but from what the ‘expert’ said it’s based on new research. How can UKAD try and corroborate that next week if there’s no discussions/sharing of information at the moment?

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 09:35

Frostieballs wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 07:37 Apparently UKAD set to rule on this next week. Funny how there is sudden urgency now.

As I said before, he will be fighting by the end of the year, probably against Eubank.

I wonder how thorough UKAD will be/can be given the timeframe of this new evidence. Surprisingly Simon Jordan appeared to be taken in by the new story as a potentially justifiable reason for clomiphene being in Benn’ system but from what the ‘expert’ said it’s based on new research. How can UKAD try and corroborate that next week if there’s no discussions/sharing of information at the moment?

From what I understand they are sharing now.

Either way, there will be a fudge if required. A lifting of suspension whilst evidence is reviewed.

This is all too familiar.

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 09:35

Frostieballs wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 07:37 Apparently UKAD set to rule on this next week. Funny how there is sudden urgency now.

As I said before, he will be fighting by the end of the year, probably against Eubank.

I wonder how thorough UKAD will be/can be given the timeframe of this new evidence. Surprisingly Simon Jordan appeared to be taken in by the new story as a potentially justifiable reason for clomiphene being in Benn’ system but from what the ‘expert’ said it’s based on new research. How can UKAD try and corroborate that next week if there’s no discussions/sharing of information at the moment?

Or could it be Simon knows or been told if he does'nt lay off a bit on his interviews , there will be NO interviews anymore ,

Benn will have his ban back dated. He will be fighting before the end of the year. It's all wanks and stains

coneye wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 11:07

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 09:35

Frostieballs wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 07:37 Apparently UKAD set to rule on this next week. Funny how there is sudden urgency now.

As I said before, he will be fighting by the end of the year, probably against Eubank.

I wonder how thorough UKAD will be/can be given the timeframe of this new evidence. Surprisingly Simon Jordan appeared to be taken in by the new story as a potentially justifiable reason for clomiphene being in Benn’ system but from what the ‘expert’ said it’s based on new research. How can UKAD try and corroborate that next week if there’s no discussions/sharing of information at the moment?

Or could it be Simon knows or been told if he does'nt lay off a bit on his interviews , there will be NO interviews anymore ,

White and Jordan gets 1mln listners and loads of YouTube views. In this environment the promotion companies need the show

coneye wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 11:07

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 09:35

Frostieballs wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 07:37 Apparently UKAD set to rule on this next week. Funny how there is sudden urgency now.

As I said before, he will be fighting by the end of the year, probably against Eubank.

I wonder how thorough UKAD will be/can be given the timeframe of this new evidence. Surprisingly Simon Jordan appeared to be taken in by the new story as a potentially justifiable reason for clomiphene being in Benn’ system but from what the ‘expert’ said it’s based on new research. How can UKAD try and corroborate that next week if there’s no discussions/sharing of information at the moment?

Or could it be Simon knows or been told if he does'nt lay off a bit on his interviews , there will be NO interviews anymore ,

It’s not like they’ve been giving TalkSPORT loads of interviews. They probably asked to go TalkSPORT as it probably generates more views/listens than the vast bulk of other routes.

They’ve pivoted as a team to trying to stay away from the media with regardless to the rationale behind the failures to seemingly now seeking it to push the new narrative.

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 14:40

coneye wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 11:07

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 09:35

I wonder how thorough UKAD will be/can be given the timeframe of this new evidence. Surprisingly Simon Jordan appeared to be taken in by the new story as a potentially justifiable reason for clomiphene being in Benn’ system but from what the ‘expert’ said it’s based on new research. How can UKAD try and corroborate that next week if there’s no discussions/sharing of information at the moment?

Or could it be Simon knows or been told if he does'nt lay off a bit on his interviews , there will be NO interviews anymore ,

It’s not like they’ve been giving TalkSPORT loads of interviews. They probably asked to go TalkSPORT as it probably generates more views/listens than the vast bulk of other routes.

They’ve pivoted as a team to trying to stay away from the media with regardless to the rationale behind the failures to seemingly now seeking it to push the new narrative.

Will say i enjoy watching them , i don't watch all talk sports i'm not in Britain but enjoyed what i've seen especielly when Simon gets his nose to the ground , reminds me of a terrier , he'll keep trying till he gets what he wants , sometimes you can see him going quiet , trying to think of a way in the back door

Is there a hearing ?

most likley he will get a backdated ban and be able to box this year sometime.

Presumably he’s grabbed a tribunal date, following the process Amir Khan found himself in. Knowing UKAD I don’t see less than 2 years. I don’t see why it wouldn’t necessarily be 3 or 4 years.

That twitter thread is proof, if need be, that there's a whole lot of stupid/gullible/arsekissing (any or all)people in the world. Apparently someone who has failed 2 drugs tests is innocent

coneye wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 18:12

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 14:40

coneye wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 11:07

Or could it be Simon knows or been told if he does'nt lay off a bit on his interviews , there will be NO interviews anymore ,

It’s not like they’ve been giving TalkSPORT loads of interviews. They probably asked to go TalkSPORT as it probably generates more views/listens than the vast bulk of other routes.

They’ve pivoted as a team to trying to stay away from the media with regardless to the rationale behind the failures to seemingly now seeking it to push the new narrative.

Will say i enjoy watching them , i don't watch all talk sports i'm not in Britain but enjoyed what i've seen especielly when Simon gets his nose to the ground , reminds me of a terrier , he'll keep trying till he gets what he wants , sometimes you can see him going quiet , trying to think of a way in the back door

I think Jordan's level is enthusiastic casual, but he has a good amount of reach and clearly loves the game. I'd rather have him asking the questions than, say, IFL.

I don't know anyone who isn't heartily sick of this saga still being around.

Hearn was telling anyone who would listen 'wait until the the truth comes out' very shortly after the truth did come out, the truth that Benn had tested positive twice. Since then this 'truth' Hearn was promising has changed flavour about 4 times.

Surely the powers that be won't swallow this bullsh1t story being offered, as 'proof' of Benn's innocence?

Forget a weight drained Eubank JR
Forget a semi retired Kell
Forget an old man like Paq


Go for it…
Fight Boots

Nah. Right division. No advantage. No upside
C’mon Eggie, make a fight like this.

si7dog7 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 17:08 Forget a weight drained Eubank JR
Forget a semi retired Kell
Forget an old man like Paq


Go for it…
Fight Boots

Nah. Right division. No advantage. No upside
C’mon Eggie, make a fight like this.

UKAD don’t really do less than 2 years. An ice hockey player recently got an 18 month add-on to an 8 year ban just for doing some ice hockey coaching. I see no way on earth that Benn gets treated more leniently than Khan. So that surely at best he gets to fight a warm up at the end of 2024.

I now think Benn will fight Eubank this year…

just the way ed keeps saying stuff like “hasn’t been a big brittish fight like this booked since benn vs eubank” and other comments like that while talking about AJ Vs Whyte. Seen him do it a few times, seems to be on his mind and he seems to wanna keep mentioning how big it was…

polecateddy wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 17:51

si7dog7 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 17:08 Forget a weight drained Eubank JR
Forget a semi retired Kell
Forget an old man like Paq


Go for it…
Fight Boots

Nah. Right division. No advantage. No upside
C’mon Eggie, make a fight like this.

UKAD don’t really do less than 2 years. An ice hockey player recently got an 18 month add-on to an 8 year ban just for doing some ice hockey coaching. I see no way on earth that Benn gets treated more leniently than Khan. So that surely at best he gets to fight a warm up at the end of 2024.

UKAD withdrew charges from Dillian Whyte after a failed test in June 2019 after receiving evidence and explanations.

My T Sharp wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 02:11

polecateddy wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 17:51

si7dog7 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 17:08 Forget a weight drained Eubank JR
Forget a semi retired Kell
Forget an old man like Paq


Go for it…
Fight Boots

Nah. Right division. No advantage. No upside
C’mon Eggie, make a fight like this.

UKAD don’t really do less than 2 years. An ice hockey player recently got an 18 month add-on to an 8 year ban just for doing some ice hockey coaching. I see no way on earth that Benn gets treated more leniently than Khan. So that surely at best he gets to fight a warm up at the end of 2024.

UKAD withdrew charges from Dillian Whyte after a failed test in June 2019 after receiving evidence and explanations.

I think if that was a likely outcome it would have happened a long time ago for Conor.

polecateddy wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 02:35

My T Sharp wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 02:11

polecateddy wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 17:51

UKAD don’t really do less than 2 years. An ice hockey player recently got an 18 month add-on to an 8 year ban just for doing some ice hockey coaching. I see no way on earth that Benn gets treated more leniently than Khan. So that surely at best he gets to fight a warm up at the end of 2024.

UKAD withdrew charges from Dillian Whyte after a failed test in June 2019 after receiving evidence and explanations.

I think if that was a likely outcome it would have happened a long time ago for Conor.

The UKAD case is only being heard this week.

Khan, from what I read, offered no real excuse for his drug test failure.

Enzo Maccarinelli got 6 months I think for his failure as he was clearly able to justify it. I think, regardless of what we think of it, this will be similar and he’ll get something like 6 months.

maverick23 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 04:03

polecateddy wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 02:35

My T Sharp wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 02:11

UKAD withdrew charges from Dillian Whyte after a failed test in June 2019 after receiving evidence and explanations.

I think if that was a likely outcome it would have happened a long time ago for Conor.

The UKAD case is only being heard this week.

Khan, from what I read, offered no real excuse for his drug test failure.

Enzo Maccarinelli got 6 months I think for his failure as he was clearly able to justify it. I think, regardless of what we think of it, this will be similar and he’ll get something like 6 months.

You might be right. Is the hearing actually this week? I just wonder with Clomifene whether it will attract that much leniency. If UKAD don’t want it much weight on the elaborate egg theory, historically in other sports Clomifene - the well-known masking agent - is usually associated with 3-4 year bans. But I guess we’ll find out soon-ish now if Benn has engineered a soft sentence or not.