BoxRec

manno wrote:

mercman wrote:Pete Gabbitus.

superb boxer pete.

Boxed him in his 2nd to last fight....you could see how people talked highly of him

petar lesov

olympic and euro champ amateur, 1-5 pro with all losses by ko and only win over a guy making his debut

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/88858

There was someone called Hyland, I think he was from Liverpool. Hardy stopped him.

Noxy wrote: ↑01 Oct 2021, 14:53 There was someone called Hyland, I think he was from Liverpool. Hardy stopped him.

John Hyland

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Oct 2021, 15:24

Noxy wrote: ↑01 Oct 2021, 14:53 There was someone called Hyland, I think he was from Liverpool. Hardy stopped him.

John Hyland

Big player in MTK

Fred Evans
Bradley Saunders
Errol Christie
Micheal MCGuire
Antony ogogo
Frankie Gavin
Tom stalker
The list goes on

Butti99 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2021, 16:54 Fred Evans
Bradley Saunders
Errol Christie
Micheal MCGuire
Antony ogogo
Frankie Gavin
Tom stalker
The list goes on

Audley Harrison
George Collins

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2021, 15:37

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Oct 2021, 15:24

Noxy wrote: ↑01 Oct 2021, 14:53 There was someone called Hyland, I think he was from Liverpool. Hardy stopped him.

John Hyland

Big player in MTK

Hyland had stopped Billy Hardy in the amateurs but Hardy destroyed him in the pros.

I was looking at Dudley McKenzie's amateur record yesterday. Dudley, a southpaw and the brother of Duke and Clinton, won four national schoolboy titles, two junior ABA titles and two NABC titles. He was one NABC title away from the full set as a schoolboy and junior and stands shoulder to shoulder with George Collins, who also failed to win a third NABC title when he was bombed out by Gary Stretch. Errol Christie did get the full set, of course, including an ABA senior title at the first attempt in 1981. (McKenzie and Collins didn't win an ABA senior title.)
Dudley turned pro with Gary Davidson and racked up five or six straight wins but was then outscored by James Cook and never boxed again.

freddydoesdallas wrote: ↑08 Apr 2015, 09:30 I'll mention the elephant in the room...

Lomachenko - 396-1 as an amatuer, already 3-1 as a pro

This aged like milk

Istvan Szucs, English ABA champion and had beaten olympic gold medalist Clemente Russo.

But as a pro 4-16-1

Majidov could be headed down this path.

Kit wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022, 13:37 Istvan Szucs, English ABA champion and had beaten olympic gold medalist Clemente Russo.

But as a pro 4-16-1

How the fornicate did he manage that?!

wrighty wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022, 14:54

Kit wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022, 13:37 Istvan Szucs, English ABA champion and had beaten olympic gold medalist Clemente Russo.

But as a pro 4-16-1

How the fornicate did he manage that?!

It's almost like it's not as easy as it looks!

maybe it was easier to make money being the losing side. maybe his personal life was a mess or something, but something defo is funky there. obviously the ams aint the pros, but you have to have some notable ability to achieve what he did - i notice he also won euro bronze and had other decent results internationally

that takes much more ability than you'd expect from a guy losing to 4-15, 0-1, type of pro opponents. the other guys usually mentioned in these threads underperformed, but generally had winning records or showed some quality in losses. not this guy

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022, 18:18 maybe it was easier to make money being the losing side. maybe his personal life was a mess or something, but something defo is funky there. obviously the ams aint the pros, but you have to have some notable ability to achieve what he did - i notice he also won euro bronze and had other decent results internationally

that takes much more ability than you'd expect from a guy losing to 4-15, 0-1, type of pro opponents. the other guys usually mentioned in these threads underperformed, but generally had winning records or showed some quality in losses. not this guy

Yeah, I was also confused by his record. It's not like he started out on the A side and decided to become a journeyman, he started out bad and mostly stayed that way.

I notice he got stopped a lot - maybe the amateur game suited a weak chin?

Coco wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022, 15:32

wrighty wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022, 14:54

Kit wrote: ↑26 Dec 2022, 13:37 Istvan Szucs, English ABA champion and had beaten olympic gold medalist Clemente Russo.

But as a pro 4-16-1

How the fornicate did he manage that?!

It's almost like it's not as easy as it looks!

I get that but the fact he's beating quality like Russo and winning the Abas shows he has ability and can fight. He would have been fighting top amateurs.

I remember people talking about Szucs in the amateurs saying how he was absolutely brutal and ruthless to the body. It is such a polar opposite in terms of levels of opposition and performances that I’d say it’s more likely that Boxrec have mixed up two different Istvans Szucs as the same person.

Kit wrote: ↑27 Dec 2022, 06:50 I remember people talking about Szucs in the amateurs saying how he was absolutely brutal and ruthless to the body. It is such a polar opposite in terms of levels of opposition and performances that I’d say it’s more likely that Boxrec have mixed up two different Istvans Szucs as the same person.

Also there is a gap between being amateur and turning pro.

Age is the biggest hurdle!

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Oct 2021, 13:15 petar lesov

olympic and euro champ amateur, 1-5 pro with all losses by ko and only win over a guy making his debut

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/88858

Danny Price was very good but I think he struggled getting fights and with injuries. 2 aba titles and a win over Bellew.

Clay Hodges... the man defeated George Foreman in the amateurs three times, but basically went nowhere as a professional. Many years later he would play Jess Willard in the movie Dempsey. Ironically as a professional he did win a decision over Jimmy Young even though it was basically Young's third fight as a pro.

Ever want to stump people with a boxing trivia question ask them if they can name a heavyweight who beat both George Foreman and Jimmy Young who was also an actor.

wrighty wrote: ↑27 Dec 2022, 19:56 Danny Price was very good but I think he struggled getting fights and with injuries. 2 aba titles and a win over Bellew.

Scarborough had a very good squad for a small North Yorkshire town for a few years.