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Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 22:57
by boxing_rocks
Evander wrote:6 days to go
Let's see. Monday is the 1st day of the week and Saturday is the 6th. Sounds like 5 days to me.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 23:02
by Evander
Monday is the 1st :TU:

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 23:56
by ClivePatrickLyons
S.O.G BY hard fought dec

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 00:18
by Evander
That early

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 09:22
by Bard of Boxrec
I am literally bursting with war now. WAR KOVALEV

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 09:25
by lefty
Riddick Blowe wrote:I am literally bursting with war now. WAR KOVALEV
You're gonna be disappointed mate. Ward is gonna get off first and then clinch immediately and in turn neutralise Kovalev's offence. Kovalev will then get increasingly frustrated as the fight goes on due to these tactics and will probably stick his forearm in Ward's face or something and have a point/s deducted.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 10:12
by boxing_rocks
lefty wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:I am literally bursting with war now. WAR KOVALEV
You're gonna be disappointed mate. Ward is gonna get off first and then clinch immediately and in turn neutralise Kovalev's offence. Kovalev will then get increasingly frustrated as the fight goes on due to these tactics and will probably stick his forearm in Ward's face or something and have a point/s deducted.
Frustrated, deducted, ... and Ward will still end up face down.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 14:52
by Bard of Boxrec
lefty wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:I am literally bursting with war now. WAR KOVALEV
You're gonna be disappointed mate. Ward is gonna get off first and then clinch immediately and in turn neutralise Kovalev's offence. Kovalev will then get increasingly frustrated as the fight goes on due to these tactics and will probably stick his forearm in Ward's face or something and have a point/s deducted.
That cliche about how the puncher will 'get frustrated' and be 'punching air' when faced with a boxer who is deemed to be technically superior won't apply here. Kovalev is patient and will take his time. He will control the ring. Ward will be running a marathon in there. If anyone is getting frustrated it's him.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 14:56
by Counter-puncher
lefty wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:I am literally bursting with war now. WAR KOVALEV
You're gonna be disappointed mate. Ward is gonna get off first and then clinch immediately and in turn neutralise Kovalev's offence. Kovalev will then get increasingly frustrated as the fight goes on due to these tactics and will probably stick his forearm in Ward's face or something and have a point/s deducted.
I would still hesitate to be dogmatic either way, I've flipflopped half a dozen times on this

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 15:19
by boxing_rocks
Kovalev is promising to break Ward's arms if he tries to hug him:

http://www.BS.com/kovalev-joke ... im--110768?

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 15:57
by Freedom2013

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 17:39
by Freedom2013

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 17 Nov 2016, 21:40
by Freedom2013

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 17 Nov 2016, 22:59
by Freedom2013
Boring fighter with long periods of inactivity and no world titles receives $5 mil, exciting fighter with 3 world titles receives $2 mil.

https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/statu ... 3065050112

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 17 Nov 2016, 23:40
by Kalan
caldo2025 wrote:Though they have different arsenals inside the ring, Ward and Kovalev both have to be the guys moving forward and, though I HATE this term, walk their opponents down. This is what I find to be the most intriguing factor in this fight because I can't see either guy retreating in my minds eye as I imagine how this fight will transpire.

I feel that skills will prevail and as much as I hate to say it, Ward has the bigger toolbox. He's got more backup options and tricks to turn to in order to find a way to win. Kovalev is a HOF'er to be IMO opinion but he fights one way and one way only and up until this fight, no one's tested him enough to consider fighting any other way. Ward will exploit this and I feel that Kovalev will frustrated and confused throughout this fight and the difference in skills will prove to be lopsidedly obvious in Wards favor.

Ward should win with a unanimous decision but will have to withstand some tough spots in this one.
Kovalev doesn't fight one way... He can box and use the jab... He can attack and get you out... Pascal did a good job of boxing when he beat a prime Chad Dawson... Hopkins did a good job of boxing in unifying 2 World Championships at the age of 49 against Shumenov in his fight prior to Kovalev... Kovalev had little trouble controlling both these guys and controlling the middle of the ring... It's going to be more of an even fight and it's up for grabs... Both guys can win.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 17 Nov 2016, 23:55
by boxing_rocks
Freedom2013 wrote:Boring fighter with long periods of inactivity and no world titles receives $5 mil, exciting fighter with 3 world titles receives $2 mil.

https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/statu ... 3065050112
That's Duva screwing Sergey up once again.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 00:42
by lazboy
boxing_rocks wrote:
Freedom2013 wrote:Boring fighter with long periods of inactivity and no world titles receives $5 mil, exciting fighter with 3 world titles receives $2 mil.

https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/statu ... 3065050112
That's Duva screwing Sergey up once again.
This is why fights don't get made. Credit to Kovalev, he needs to feed his Russian family.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 00:58
by boxing_rocks
Michael Montero ‏@MonteroOnBoxing Nov 16 Los Angeles, CA
Some #KovalevWard PPV math: 300K buys x $70 a pop = $21M, half goes to distributor, then split by promoters = about $5M each. #boxing #p4p
With 300K being an optimistic prognosis, Roc Nation is clearly losing money, while Main Events may earn some.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 06:45
by caldo2025
Kalan wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Though they have different arsenals inside the ring, Ward and Kovalev both have to be the guys moving forward and, though I HATE this term, walk their opponents down. This is what I find to be the most intriguing factor in this fight because I can't see either guy retreating in my minds eye as I imagine how this fight will transpire.

I feel that skills will prevail and as much as I hate to say it, Ward has the bigger toolbox. He's got more backup options and tricks to turn to in order to find a way to win. Kovalev is a HOF'er to be IMO opinion but he fights one way and one way only and up until this fight, no one's tested him enough to consider fighting any other way. Ward will exploit this and I feel that Kovalev will frustrated and confused throughout this fight and the difference in skills will prove to be lopsidedly obvious in Wards favor.

Ward should win with a unanimous decision but will have to withstand some tough spots in this one.
Kovalev doesn't fight one way... He can box and use the jab... He can attack and get you out... Pascal did a good job of boxing when he beat a prime Chad Dawson... Hopkins did a good job of boxing in unifying 2 World Championships at the age of 49 against Shumenov in his fight prior to Kovalev... Kovalev had little trouble controlling both these guys and controlling the middle of the ring... It's going to be more of an even fight and it's up for grabs... Both guys can win.
You are missing the point trying to be made here. My point is that Kovalev doesn't retreat and we have only seen him fight as the aggressor and the one pushing forward. Have you ever seen Kovalev fighting with his back against the ropes for extended period of time? No one has. You can have a jab all you want but you can't throw it with any success moving backwards. This is going to be the key to the fight because Ward will be the aggresor .

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 08:28
by Prachya
I'm sure the winner will be the person who's been raised his hand by the judge at the end.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 09:21
by Ezzard
If Ward wins he just perpetuates the Wlad/Floyd/Hopkins era of jab-and-grab /pop-and-lock...

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 10:36
by Tanzio
I have gone back and forth on this fight. I likely will for the next 36 hours or so. This could end at any time if Krusher lands but I think that he is about to get schooled and stopped late, possibly due to injury.

I have seen Krusher feel shots that made him get agressive and hurt his opponent. That could get him hurt and stopped v SOGgy.

That said, Krusher can absolutely stop SOGgy.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 10:51
by SaadOffTheDeck
I wouldn't rule out a dq. I could see kovalev lose it late if he's being dominated and mugged.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 11:01
by boxing_rocks
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I wouldn't rule out a dq. I could see kovalev lose it late if he's being dominated and mugged.
More likely, a DQ will be due to Ward playing his friend Andre Dirrell.

Re: Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 11:10
by SaadOffTheDeck
boxing_rocks wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I wouldn't rule out a dq. I could see kovalev lose it late if he's being dominated and mugged.
More likely, a DQ will be due to Ward playing his friend Andre Dirrell.
That's absurd to suggest a guy that hasn't lost in 2 decades would fake being hurt and quit. I'm not a ward fan but comparing him to that pussy is beyond ridiculous.