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Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:28
by gilgamesh
leejonesjnr wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:25
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:22
leejonesjnr wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:20

Where? UK? US?
It is mathematics when two negatives make a positive, not boxing.
I'm talking about Race.

Cooney vs Holmes, McGregor vs Mayweather...those were blockbusters because of the Race Factor as much as anything. It's an ugly part of the sport IMO, but it's a part of it nonetheless, and it'll help make this fight that much bigger because of the diversity in the fighters and their fans.
What a shame that mods can't be added to the ignore list.
I can't make an honest observation? I didn't say it was a GOOD THING that this was a big factor in selling the fight. I'm just acknowledging that it is in fact a thing.

Ignoring it doesn't make it untrue. I'd very much prefer the World would move past that sorta thing as well, but alas Humans still have a long way to go in evolving past these things.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:29
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:29
by Noxy
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:28 Frampton has the crowd pumped with the entrance.
Aye, he always does. He's a seriously popular guy.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:30
by Neil Gee
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:15
Noxy wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:14
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:12

I mean he's as ready as he's ever gonna be for Wilder in my opinion. All the tune ups in the world ain't gonna change the result when he steps in there with Wilder. Wilder's knocking him out.
Wilder has a different style, he'll go looking for Fury. That suits TF.
He keeps his distance, and gets good pop on his shots though. I fully expect he'll lose every round of the fight UNTIL he catches Fury, but I think it's inevitable that he will catch Fury.
I dunno. I honestly think it's up in the air. Depends if Fury can regain most of his full skillset before November, but going 10 tonight won't have done him any harm at all in that regard.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:32
by gilgamesh
Neil Gee wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:30
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:15
Noxy wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:14

Wilder has a different style, he'll go looking for Fury. That suits TF.
He keeps his distance, and gets good pop on his shots though. I fully expect he'll lose every round of the fight UNTIL he catches Fury, but I think it's inevitable that he will catch Fury.
I dunno. I honestly think it's up in the air. Depends if Fury can regain most of his full skillset before November, but going 10 tonight won't have done him any harm at all in that regard.
Yeah, but he's in with an entirely different fighter in Wilder. Wilder is at least twice as fast as Pianeta, hits at least twice as hard, is at least twice as aggressive, and is pretty close to Fury's height as well. I think he's a few inches shorter, but Fury's size and reach won't be the factor here that it is against most opponents.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:32
by Nightmare Roy
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:17
MightyWarrior wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:15 Bad fight for the box office build up, but good fight to give him an outside chance against Wilder.
I don't know that it matters. Fury apparently sells himself with his personality. He's never been entertaining in the ring.
That's pretty much it, dull in the ring but the buildup will be epic.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:33
by leejonesjnr
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:28
leejonesjnr wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:25
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:22

I'm talking about Race.

Cooney vs Holmes, McGregor vs Mayweather...those were blockbusters because of the Race Factor as much as anything. It's an ugly part of the sport IMO, but it's a part of it nonetheless, and it'll help make this fight that much bigger because of the diversity in the fighters and their fans.
What a shame that mods can't be added to the ignore list.
I can't make an honest observation? I didn't say it was a GOOD THING that this was a big factor in selling the fight. I'm just acknowledging that it is in fact a thing.

Ignoring it doesn't make it untrue. I'd very much assume the World would move past that sorta thing as well, but alas Humans still have a long way to go in evolving past these things.
You have a long history of stupid statements, ridiculous posts and demonstrating a lack of basic knowledge.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:33
by jameswilson
Terry O'Connor retiring as a ref? Thank fu ck for that.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:34
by Ruthless-RKO
Shame. Frampton has said all the bigger fights he’s after will likely be in USA.. you reckon he’ll fight on Fury-Wilder card?

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:34
by jamamb
did they officially anounce fury vs wilder?

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:35
by Neil Gee
Frampton looks good.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:36
by MightyWarrior
Jackson looks out of his depth already

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:36
by gilgamesh
leejonesjnr wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:33
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:28
leejonesjnr wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:25

What a shame that mods can't be added to the ignore list.
I can't make an honest observation? I didn't say it was a GOOD THING that this was a big factor in selling the fight. I'm just acknowledging that it is in fact a thing.

Ignoring it doesn't make it untrue. I'd very much assume the World would move past that sorta thing as well, but alas Humans still have a long way to go in evolving past these things.
You have a long history of stupid statements, ridiculous posts and demonstrating a lack of basic knowledge.
How so?

My observations are always 100% honest. It's a well known fact that I dislike Fury, but I gave him props on the things he did well today. I think it's fair to say I'm one of the more knowledgeable posters on the site in spite of the fact that I occasionally say things that are too much for your delicate sensibilities.

I don't set out to offend anybody, but if people get offended by truth....I mean...I can't help it.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:36
by DrDuke
jamamb wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:34 did they officially anounce fury vs wilder?
they said, it's on.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:38
by leejonesjnr
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:36
leejonesjnr wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:33
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:28

I can't make an honest observation? I didn't say it was a GOOD THING that this was a big factor in selling the fight. I'm just acknowledging that it is in fact a thing.

Ignoring it doesn't make it untrue. I'd very much assume the World would move past that sorta thing as well, but alas Humans still have a long way to go in evolving past these things.
You have a long history of stupid statements, ridiculous posts and demonstrating a lack of basic knowledge.
How so?

My observations are always 100% honest. It's a well known fact that I dislike Fury, but I gave him props on the things he did well today. I think it's fair to say I'm one of the more knowledgeable posters on the site in spite of the fact that I occasionally say things that are too much for your delicate sensibilities.

I don't set out to offend anybody, but if people get offended by truth....I mean...I can't help it.
Ignore.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:38
by Ruthless-RKO
DrDuke wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:36
jamamb wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:34 did they officially anounce fury vs wilder?
they said, it's on.
No date or venue.

Either Nov or Dec in either Las Vegas or New York.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:40
by gilgamesh
leejonesjnr wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:38
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:36
leejonesjnr wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:33

You have a long history of stupid statements, ridiculous posts and demonstrating a lack of basic knowledge.
How so?

My observations are always 100% honest. It's a well known fact that I dislike Fury, but I gave him props on the things he did well today. I think it's fair to say I'm one of the more knowledgeable posters on the site in spite of the fact that I occasionally say things that are too much for your delicate sensibilities.

I don't set out to offend anybody, but if people get offended by truth....I mean...I can't help it.
Ignore.
Well...you can't please the people all the time.

So Lee...let me just say. Do go f*ck yourself alright buddy.

Tried to be reasonable, but if I can't be. I can always say F*ck you.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:42
by Neil Gee
2-0 Frampton. Very one-sided.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:42
by tobyh5
Neil Gee wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:35 Frampton looks good.
Jackson looks woefully out of his depth rather than Frampton looking good. Eg Frampton is hanging chin in air and not moving head but Jackson cannot take advantage

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:42
by Covfefe
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:27
tobyh5 wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:24
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:22

I'm talking about Race.

Cooney vs Holmes, McGregor vs Mayweather...those were blockbusters because of the Race Factor as much as anything. It's an ugly part of the sport IMO, but it's a part of it nonetheless, and it'll help make this fight that much bigger because of the diversity in the fighters and their fans.
I don’t think race had anything to do with Mayweather v McGregor and Cooney was a long time ago in the big white hope days. World has moved on and also a ten year reign by a white guy has taken away that thirst
I guarantee you Race had a lot to do with Mayweather vs McGregor. I personally know a bunch of Redneck white guys that don't give one single f*ck about Combat Sports that were WAY interested in May vs Mac....and it wasn't because it was Boxer vs UFC.

We'd like to think the world has moved past that kinda thing, but it hasn't.
Well, that may well be true over there, but it certainly wasn’t sold or regarded anything as such here.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:42
by gilgamesh
I picked Frampton by KO rounds 4 thru 6. If Jackson can survive Round 3 here I'd say that's a good looking pick because Jackson definitely looks outgunned here, and the stoppage seems almost inevitable.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:42
by gilgamesh
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:42
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:27
tobyh5 wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:24

I don’t think race had anything to do with Mayweather v McGregor and Cooney was a long time ago in the big white hope days. World has moved on and also a ten year reign by a white guy has taken away that thirst
I guarantee you Race had a lot to do with Mayweather vs McGregor. I personally know a bunch of Redneck white guys that don't give one single f*ck about Combat Sports that were WAY interested in May vs Mac....and it wasn't because it was Boxer vs UFC.

We'd like to think the world has moved past that kinda thing, but it hasn't.
Well, that may well be true over there, but it certainly wasn’t sold or regarded anything as such here.
It wasn't SOLD that way anywhere. That's why I said it was an unspoken thing.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:43
by Ruthless-RKO
Apparently, there is a 11pm curfew in Belfast? Kinda like Wembley then eh.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:43
by leejonesjnr
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:40
leejonesjnr wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:38
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:36

How so?

My observations are always 100% honest. It's a well known fact that I dislike Fury, but I gave him props on the things he did well today. I think it's fair to say I'm one of the more knowledgeable posters on the site in spite of the fact that I occasionally say things that are too much for your delicate sensibilities.

I don't set out to offend anybody, but if people get offended by truth....I mean...I can't help it.
Ignore.
Well...you can't please the people all the time.

So Lee...let me just say. Do go f*ck yourself alright buddy.

Tried to be reasonable, but if I can't be. I can always say F*ck you.
Ignore.

Re: Round-by-Round: Carl Frampton vs. Luke Jackson / Tyson Fury - 18 August 2018

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 17:44
by Covfefe
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:42
Covfefe wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:42
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 17:27

I guarantee you Race had a lot to do with Mayweather vs McGregor. I personally know a bunch of Redneck white guys that don't give one single f*ck about Combat Sports that were WAY interested in May vs Mac....and it wasn't because it was Boxer vs UFC.

We'd like to think the world has moved past that kinda thing, but it hasn't.
Well, that may well be true over there, but it certainly wasn’t sold or regarded anything as such here.
It wasn't SOLD that way anywhere. That's why I said it was an unspoken thing.
Perhaps you said it first I’m reading the thread backwards...fair dos.

Yeah I’m sure some see it that way. I’m sure some looked at Khan-Salita in similar terms. Best ignored in my view.