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Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:20
by SportsRatings
The ref should have stopped it after the count. He was so wobbly. His corner had to run up to tell them to stop it.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:20
by oogiebe
kbackup408 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:16
Dubois would navy seal Ajagba's bum
Ajagba is no where near the level of Dubs. Efe can punch; he can take a punch, but can he'd take a beating by a good HW right now.
The good: He got knocked down and got right back up and beat his man down.
The bad: Boy is he easy to hit.
The Ugly: Not mixing up his punches; no head movement; still doesn't have the basic skills to avoid punches while throwing.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:22
by Contendeh
Surprisingly entertaining fight!
Efe has hopefully learned from this fight not to let the other guy off the hook.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:23
by lazboy
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:20
kbackup408 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:16
Dubois would navy seal Ajagba's bum
Ajagba is no where near the level of Dubs. Efe can punch; he can take a punch, but can he'd take a beating by a good HW right now.
The good: He got knocked down and got right back up and beat his man down.
The bad: Boy is he easy to hit.
The Ugly: Not mixing up his punches; no head movement; still doesn't have the basic skills to avoid punches while throwing.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:23
by oogiebe
Contendeh wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:22
Surprisingly entertaining fight!
Efe has hopefully learned from this fight not to let the other guy off the hook.
That was a
huge mistake. He has more to learn than that. Still an exciting prospect. That was great!
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:23
by skanksta
Kiladze auditioning for the Black Knight in Monty Python there.
Ref and/or his corner shoulda stopped that in R2 - glad they didn't.
Great stuff from the Georgian.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:24
by SportsRatings
Ajagba learned that an almost-down opponent is like a cornered rat, very dangerous.
He also has to improve how he delivers his right hands, they always look the same and he sets himself up for counters.
The ref was horrible. When a guy is out on his feet swimming around, he gets a standing 8 count right? I guess not.
And when you count a guy to 8 or 9 and he stands up and can't walk to you, he's done.
Same as in the previous fight, the guy gets up but clearly isn't all there. Gotta stop it at that point.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:24
by kbackup408
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:20
kbackup408 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:16
Dubois would navy seal Ajagba's bum
Ajagba is no where near the level of Dubs. Efe can punch; he can take a punch, but can he'd take a beating by a good HW right now.
The good: He got knocked down and got right back up and beat his man down.
The bad: Boy is he easy to hit.
The Ugly: Not mixing up his punches; no head movement; still doesn't have the basic skills to avoid punches while throwing.
100% another thing to consider is if after so many ammy bouts + the handful of pro fights Ajagba hasn't progressed not a good sign
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:25
by oogiebe
skanksta wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:23
Kiladze auditioning for the Black Knight in Monty Python there.
Ref and/or his corner shoulda stopped that in R2 - glad they didn't.
Great stuff from the Georgian.
LMFAO! "It's only a flesh wound!" hILARIOUS!
Yeah, Kiladze was game AF.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:25
by gregregegg
Effe needs to calm down after he buzzes someone. let a guy off the hook then got silly and got dropped once. then in the last round after he had him hurt again copped a flushh right hand that was always gunna be coming. turned out to be a great scrap in the end, considering how one sided round 1 was looking.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:27
by oogiebe
kbackup408 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:24
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:20
Ajagba is no where near the level of Dubs. Efe can punch; he can take a punch, but can he'd take a beating by a good HW right now.
The good: He got knocked down and got right back up and beat his man down.
The bad: Boy is he easy to hit.
The Ugly: Not mixing up his punches; no head movement; still doesn't have the basic skills to avoid punches while throwing.
100% another thing to consider is if after so many ammy bouts + the handful of pro fights Ajagba hasn't progressed not a good sign
This fight may have been the best thing to happen to him. Let's see next time out. Geez I'm amped over that fight! The Giron fight too! Shaping up to be a great card.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:28
by Enlightened-One
Hopefully Ajagba’s latest performance will realign expectations to more realistic levels.
I’ve previously read posts submitted to this forum comparing Ajagba’s talents to Hall-of-Famers, which is clearly a premature thing to do.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:29
by oogiebe
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:28
Hopefully Ajagba’s latest performance will realign expectations to more realistic levels.
I’ve previously read posts submitted to this forum comparing Ajagba’s talents to Hall-of-Famers, which is clearly a premature thing to do.
C'mon EO...no one did that. He's still an exciting prospect. Your boy Dychko is no where to be found. Let it go.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:31
by Onetimeonly
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:28
Hopefully Ajagba’s latest performance will realign expectations to more realistic levels.
I’ve previously read posts submitted to this forum comparing Ajagba’s talents to Hall-of-Famers, which is clearly a premature thing to do.
Don't worry your pretty little head about that, focus on how many viewers watched and compare it to the percentage of the last bout.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:32
by oogiebe
Camera caught Spence. He looks great. Glad to see that.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:33
by SportsRatings
If Dubois and Ajagba changed opponents, I don't think the results would be much different
Kiladze is a tough SOB and he'd have fought like heck against Dubois too. Might not have knocked him down, but who knows until we see Dubois against a tough customer like him. Gorman couldn't take a punch. Kingpin still can at times, but he doesn't deliver anything anymore.
Kyotaro is not a big guy that takes pressure well. He's a kickboxer at heart, he wants to spar, and is overwhelmed by big tough punchers, that's why he's avoided them. Ajagba would have finished him quickly too.
I'd rank Dubois ahead of Ajagba right now, but I don't think this difference is nearly as stark as people are making it out to be.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:34
by lazboy
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:29
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:28
Hopefully Ajagba’s latest performance will realign expectations to more realistic levels.
I’ve previously read posts submitted to this forum comparing Ajagba’s talents to Hall-of-Famers, which is clearly a premature thing to do.
C'mon EO...no one did that. He's still an exciting prospect. Your boy Dychko is no where to be found. Let it go.
I’m sure one idiot/outlier said it. Most likely an EO alt account.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:36
by Duran1970
Spence speech alot more slower and slurred...seems half asleep... Maybe hes had a few cocktails..
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:36
by kbackup408
man errol spence jr doesn't sound good - slurry/voice seems off - I hope he takes some time off May/June 2020 will be soon!!
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:37
by oogiebe
SportsRatings wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:33
If Dubois and Ajagba changed opponents, I don't think the results would be much different
Kiladze is a tough SOB and he'd have fought like heck against Dubois too. Might not have knocked him down, but who knows until we see Dubois against a tough customer like him. Gorman couldn't take a punch. Kingpin still can at times, but he doesn't deliver anything anymore.
Kyotaro is not a big guy that takes pressure well. He's a kickboxer at heart, he wants to spar, and is overwhelmed by big tough punchers, that's why he's avoided them. Ajagba would have finished him quickly too.
I'd rank Dubois ahead of Ajagba right now, but I don't think this difference is nearly as stark as people are making it out to be.
Dubs is clearly a couple of steps ahead of Efe. It'll be interesting to see Ajagba's next outing. He MUST show improvement in his defense and head movement. As I posted earlier, maybe this was a good thing for him. He sure seems to have the ability.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:37
by margaret thatcher
Let's hope he's not the one driving back tonight
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:38
by lazboy
Spence looks a little unwell...,.
Miracle he survived, etc, etc. just looks like he’s been on a month long bender.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:38
by margaret thatcher
SportsRatings wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:33
If Dubois and Ajagba changed opponents, I don't think the results would be much different
Kiladze is a tough SOB and he'd have fought like heck against Dubois too. Might not have knocked him down, but who knows until we see Dubois against a tough customer like him. Gorman couldn't take a punch. Kingpin still can at times, but he doesn't deliver anything anymore.
Kyotaro is not a big guy that takes pressure well. He's a kickboxer at heart, he wants to spar, and is overwhelmed by big tough punchers, that's why he's avoided them. Ajagba would have finished him quickly too.
I'd rank Dubois ahead of Ajagba right now, but I don't think this difference is nearly as stark as people are making it out to be.
Dub would batter Iago without issue, like Kalenga and Joyce and Hunter did. It's not like Iago is some hellish test each time.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:39
by Contendeh
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:32
Camera caught Spence. He looks great. Glad to see that.
Just gonna type that.
Guy is lucky/fortunate AF.
Re: Tony Harrison vs. Jermell Charlo II - December 21, 2019
Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 22:39
by lazboy
kbackup408 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 22:36
man errol spence jr doesn't sound good - slurry/voice seems off - I hope he takes some time off May/June 2020 will be soon!!
My thoughts. Drinking, smoking, bad food?