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Bandog wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 07:55 If they get Giuseppe Quartarone to ref, and keep Ruiz away from Joshua like what happened in the Parker fight, Joshua will probably win.

Bandog wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 07:55 If they get Giuseppe Quartarone to ref, and keep Ruiz away from Joshua like what happened in the Parker fight, Joshua will probably win.

Bandog wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 07:55 If they get Giuseppe Quartarone to ref, and keep Ruiz away from Joshua like what happened in the Parker fight, Joshua will probably win.

greg wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 09:16

Bandog wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 07:55 If they get Giuseppe Quartarone to ref, and keep Ruiz away from Joshua like what happened in the Parker fight, Joshua will probably win.

either that or they should export the "Byrds of Paradise" from Nevada ..they'll make sure everything will work THEIR way

apollo creed wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 09:48

greg wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 09:16

either that or they should export the "Byrds of Paradise" from Nevada ..they'll make sure everything will work THEIR way

Giuseppe Quartarone, C. J. Ross and Adalaide Byrd= The guarantee you'll get the D squad

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 11:00 My guess is Ruiz let himself go with all his new found wealth, buying expensive houses and cars and jewelery, with less time to train, and so I pick him as a one fight wonder.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 11:00 My guess is Ruiz let himself go with all his new found wealth, buying expensive houses and cars and jewelery, with less time to train, and so I pick him as a one fight wonder.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:10

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 11:00 My guess is Ruiz let himself go with all his new found wealth, buying expensive houses and cars and jewelery, with less time to train, and so I pick him as a one fight wonder.

I think he'd be a one hit wonder anyway to be honest with you. Discipline has obviously never been his strong suit, and Joshua is gonna come with a much smarter strategy for the rematch you'd think.

Yeah. I think ultimately Ruiz is gonna go down as this decade's answer to Hasim Rahman.

ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:19

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:10

I think he'd be a one hit wonder anyway to be honest with you. Discipline has obviously never been his strong suit, and Joshua is gonna come with a much smarter strategy for the rematch you'd think.

Yeah. I think ultimately Ruiz is gonna go down as this decade's answer to Hasim Rahman.

What strategy do you think Joshua will deploy and how will he be able to implement it?

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:24

ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:19

What strategy do you think Joshua will deploy and how will he be able to implement it?

Using his jab and right hand from a distance. Grabbing on the inside. (that needs to be the primary focus of his camp)

When he goes on the attack with power shots he needs to pick his spots very carefully, and don't stay in too long. Get your shots off, and move or clinch or whatever. Don't wait for Ruiz's counters.

apollo creed wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:32

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:24

Using his jab and right hand from a distance. Grabbing on the inside. (that needs to be the primary focus of his camp)

When he goes on the attack with power shots he needs to pick his spots very carefully, and don't stay in too long. Get your shots off, and move or clinch or whatever. Don't wait for Ruiz's counters.

It's easy to say that but I believe that AJ is gun-shy atm. Ruiz ate AJ's power and fired back to stop him. That thing must be in the back of AJ's mind. People forget that Ruiz Jr is the better fighter.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:33

apollo creed wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:32

It's easy to say that but I believe that AJ is gun-shy atm. Ruiz ate AJ's power and fired back to stop him. That thing must be in the back of AJ's mind. People forget that Ruiz Jr is the better fighter.

Ruiz did get dropped himself so it's not like AJ can't hurt him. He just needs to be smarter when he does.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:24

ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:19

What strategy do you think Joshua will deploy and how will he be able to implement it?

Using his jab and right hand from a distance. Grabbing on the inside. (that needs to be the primary focus of his camp)

When he goes on the attack with power shots he needs to pick his spots very carefully, and don't stay in too long. Get your shots off, and move or clinch or whatever. Don't wait for Ruiz's counters.

ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 13:31

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:24

Using his jab and right hand from a distance. Grabbing on the inside. (that needs to be the primary focus of his camp)

When he goes on the attack with power shots he needs to pick his spots very carefully, and don't stay in too long. Get your shots off, and move or clinch or whatever. Don't wait for Ruiz's counters.

I think he can keep the distance, certainly for a while at least. Not sure he can become effective at clinching in such a short period, his attempts at clinching in the last fight were woeful.

It's going to be really interesting as he's going to know he's being hunted down. He's going to have to be composed and patient, will be interesting to see if he can remain so.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 13:33

ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 13:31


I think he can keep the distance, certainly for a while at least. Not sure he can become effective at clinching in such a short period, his attempts at clinching in the last fight were woeful.

It's going to be really interesting as he's going to know he's being hunted down. He's going to have to be composed and patient, will be interesting to see if he can remain so.

Yeah moving is always gonna be the better option for him if he has it. If Ruiz is right up on him, and he just can't get away he needs to clinch. Surely a big strong boy like him can figure out how to grab somebody.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 12:13

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 13:33

Yeah moving is always gonna be the better option for him if he has it. If Ruiz is right up on him, and he just can't get away he needs to clinch. Surely a big strong boy like him can figure out how to grab somebody.

AJ still has novice tendencies and grabbing hold of his opponent might not be the right tactic to use, especially if it’s employed excessively.

There’s a certain art to clinching. It has to be done in a productive and intelligent manner and not just to avoid fighting on the inside.

Joshua would have to find a way to make his clinches brief and either let his hands go after pushing Ruiz Jr. away or lean on the Mexican-American immediately prior to using his own legs to move quickly out-of-range.

If Joshua only uses the clinch to nullify Ruiz Jr’s inside work and to gain a breather, then he’ll likely get penalised by the referee for being overly-negative... and rightly so. It may even cause him to lose rounds on the judges’ scorecards.

I also feel that a fighter as short as Andy Ruiz Jr, must have spent his entire career in the gym, the amateurs and also the pro ranks facing bigger guys that persistently clinch, which means he’ll probably already have a way to handle this tactic.

I’m not suggesting that clinching won’t work for AJ in the rematch, but it’s a tactic he’ll have to use sparingly and carefully, because it could back-fire when misused.

ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 12:19

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 12:13
AJ still has novice tendencies and grabbing hold of his opponent might not be the right tactic to use, especially if it’s employed excessively.

There’s a certain art to clinching. It has to be done in a productive and intelligent manner and not just to avoid fighting on the inside.

Joshua would have to find a way to make his clinches brief and either let his hands go after pushing Ruiz Jr. away or lean on the Mexican-American immediately prior to using his own legs to move quickly out-of-range.

If Joshua only uses the clinch to nullify Ruiz Jr’s inside work and to gain a breather, then he’ll likely get penalised by the referee for being overly-negative... and rightly so. It may even cause him to lose rounds on the judges’ scorecards.

I also feel that a fighter as short as Andy Ruiz Jr, must have spent his entire career in the gym, the amateurs and also the pro ranks facing bigger guys that persistently clinch, which means he’ll probably already have a way to handle this tactic.

I’m not suggesting that clinching won’t work for AJ in the rematch, but it’s a tactic he’ll have to use sparingly and carefully, because it could back-fire when misused.

I never thought I'd say this






But I agree with every word

markinmidd wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 13:03 Reading a lot of surprising posts here, AJ has to move, AJ has to clinch, AJ has to break out of clinch with sharp counters..... have you actually watched AJ box, one dimensional, starting that annoying thing of talking bout himself an “ we”’as in the third person. The “ lucky” punch etc.

He no plan B, no stamina, can only move in straight lines.... Ruiz tasted the sweet life an will wanna stay there. Could go either way coz for all AJ,s flaws , he carries Ko power.
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