oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 19:53
LMFAO!!! What the hell are you going on about. You don't even make sense! Prove to us Wilder is ducking Whyte! Using Hearn's word isn't "loads" of anything except shvt. Tell us why Wilder would even duck Jillian Whyte. I keep asking the same questions and you keep coming back with insults and insanity! I have to move on. My ribs are hurting!
I can’t keep participating in you trolling, since you’re not a boxing fan, never have been and have never once attempted to prove the accuracy of your own words.
BEEP! This is a recording.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 19 Jul 2019, 16:20
by funso banjo baby
NOV !!!! WTF !!!
he's boxed 2 mins so far in 2019
utter pants
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
C'mon, Wilder haters are abound in this UK dominated forum. I expected more.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 19 Jul 2019, 16:53
by candyslim
I'm not his greatest fan myself, but I like to think I can be objective. Ortiz is two years older and looked terrible in his performances since his last title shot.
I picked Wilder to win last time because I thought Ortiz got his chance too late, and he won't have been getting better with experience
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 15:43
by elnarri
Wilder improving, Ortiz not. I think this time Wilder will win easily.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 21 Jul 2019, 19:11
by Finkel
Wilder must win this.
Ortiz is just getting older and older, with his best win coming against Jennings in his mid-40s.
Really don't know why this fight is happening
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 02:52
by candyslim
Ostensibly it's in order to clear up any lingering doubts about the first fight, but in reality it's because Al sees Ortiz as a safe opponent whose name still means something and looks good on the record.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
C'mon, Wilder haters are abound in this UK dominated forum. I expected more.
He came within a whisker of beating him. Nothing wrong with picking Ortiz here. The thing his haters are doing is pretending this is a shitty fight to make, yeah slim, that's you.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 08:52
by ironbeard
Wilder since the Fury fight = Breazeale and Ortiz
Fury since the Wilder fight = the bouncer at Sgt Schultz Bier & Weiner garden and . . .
AJ = TFKoB twice
TFKoB = AJ twice
Who is the slacker?
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 09:22
by Tony1244
Finkel wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 19:11
Wilder must win this.
Ortiz is just getting older and older, with his best win coming against Jennings in his mid-40s.
Really don't know why this fight is happening
Huh, watch Wilder-Ortiz 1.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 13:21
by candyslim
I don't think it's a shitty fight we've just seen it before. I was quite happy for him to replace Miller but Al wanted him for Deontay. He won't have got better in the interim and has done little to earn a second shot when Whyte is still waiting for his chance after nearly two years as the WBC number one.
Still there's no point engaging with you OTO on the subject. In your eyes anyone who dares to even consider thinking a word of criticism about your man is a hater. If that's what you want to believe go right ahead.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 13:35
by Ilya Muromets
Is it going to be Wilder, the ref, and the ring doctor vs. Ortiz again, or just Wilder vs. Ortiz this time?
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 13:36
by gilgamesh
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑22 Jul 2019, 13:35
Is it going to be Wilder, the ref, and the ring doctor vs. Ortiz again, or just Wilder vs. Ortiz this time?
Ortiz has gotten older and slower now. Wilder won't need help this time.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Ortiz has gotten older and slower now. Wilder won't need help this time.
Just like last time.
Whether or not he needed it I don't know, but he got it last time.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 13:40
by Onetimeonly
candyslim wrote: ↑22 Jul 2019, 13:21
I don't think it's a shitty fight we've just seen it before. I was quite happy for him to replace Miller but Al wanted him for Deontay. He won't have got better in the interim and has done little to earn a second shot when Whyte is still waiting for his chance after nearly two years as the WBC number one.
Still there's no point engaging with you OTO on the subject. In your eyes anyone who dares to even consider thinking a word of criticism about your man is a hater. If that's what you want to believe go right ahead.
Not anyone, in particularly you because you're so full of shit. Agreed that there's no point yet you can't help yourself. At least you spared me another unreadable novel trying to convince yourself you're not deeply biased. I suppose that's an improvement.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Jul 2019, 13:47
His friends this time are Father Time, and his own improvement. He'll win easier this time.
You're probably right - but I'm rooting for Ortiz.
It would certainly shake things up even further if Ortiz won, but I just don't see how he does, aside from the old Puncher's chance, which is always there.
We do know he can hurt Wilder, and of course Wilder can hurt him or anybody else for that matter. I feel like Wilder will be more confident, and willing to open up and attack with KO intent sooner. I expect drama earlier in the bout this time.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Finkel wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 19:11
Wilder must win this.
Ortiz is just getting older and older, with his best win coming against Jennings in his mid-40s.
Really don't know why this fight is happening
Huh, watch Wilder-Ortiz 1.
I did, but as I say his Ortiz's career high win was beating Jennings in 2015. He's an old man being promoted on this false idea that anyone would still be bothered to duck his geriatric ass
I would prefer to see Wilder in with a live dog rather than yet another cherry pick
At the end of the day Wilder was up on the cards when he KO'd Ortiz.
Should we replay Washington or Spilzka? They also gave Wilder problems...
Kownacki would be preferable to this, or a legitimate live dog like Parker or Whyte
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
candyslim wrote: ↑22 Jul 2019, 13:21
I don't think it's a shitty fight we've just seen it before. I was quite happy for him to replace Miller but Al wanted him for Deontay. He won't have got better in the interim and has done little to earn a second shot when Whyte is still waiting for his chance after nearly two years as the WBC number one.
Still there's no point engaging with you OTO on the subject. In your eyes anyone who dares to even consider thinking a word of criticism about your man is a hater. If that's what you want to believe go right ahead.
Not anyone, in particularly you because you're so full of poo. Agreed that there's no point yet you can't help yourself. At least you spared me another unreadable novel trying to convince yourself you're not deeply biased. I suppose that's an improvement.
Oh just go back to sucking on his cock you tedious motherfucker.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 Jul 2019, 13:40
Not anyone, in particularly you because you're so full of poo. Agreed that there's no point yet you can't help yourself. At least you spared me another unreadable novel trying to convince yourself you're not deeply biased. I suppose that's an improvement.
Oh just go back to sucking on his cock you tedious motherfucker.
Prove to us Wilder is ducking Whyte! Using Hearn's word isn't "loads" of anything except shvt. Tell us why Wilder would even duck Jillian Whyte. I keep asking the same questions and you keep coming back with insults and insanity! I have to move on. My ribs are hurting!
