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gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:28 I honestly wouldn't even comment on it if I were a fighter. I'd be nervous that even if I were clean, that somebody close to me was slipping something in my drink or something to f*ck me over.

I'm pretty sure if I were a World Class boxer I'd be paranoid of the people I have around me for this reason, and wouldn't ingest anything that I didn't see prepared or know EXACTLY what was in it.

jameswilson wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:32

gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:28 I honestly wouldn't even comment on it if I were a fighter. I'd be nervous that even if I were clean, that somebody close to me was slipping something in my drink or something to f*ck me over.

I'm pretty sure if I were a World Class boxer I'd be paranoid of the people I have around me for this reason, and wouldn't ingest anything that I didn't see prepared or know EXACTLY what was in it.

After Joshua lost to Ruiz, Whyte did an interview on his own YouTube channel where he very heavy handily accused Joshua of being a PED user and said his loss to Ruiz was down to not being able to use, or not use as many PEDs as he’s been using previously.

Just shocking to throw barbs when you yourself are on them.

jameswilson wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:32

gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:28 I honestly wouldn't even comment on it if I were a fighter. I'd be nervous that even if I were clean, that somebody close to me was slipping something in my drink or something to f*ck me over.

I'm pretty sure if I were a World Class boxer I'd be paranoid of the people I have around me for this reason, and wouldn't ingest anything that I didn't see prepared or know EXACTLY what was in it.

After Joshua lost to Ruiz, Whyte did an interview on his own YouTube channel where he very heavy handily accused Joshua of being a PED user and said his loss to Ruiz was down to not being able to use, or not use as many PEDs as he’s been using previously.

Just shocking to throw barbs when you yourself are on them.

Nondescript wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:19

tobyh5 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 13:59

An old favouite of bodybuilders. Olympia competitors staple breakfast

Just read that the amount found in his A sample was very small, so it could have been caused by a supplement. I imagine your friend is pulling his hair out at the moment.

tobyh5 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:34

Nondescript wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:19

Just read that the amount found in his A sample was very small, so it could have been caused by a supplement. I imagine your friend is pulling his hair out at the moment.

The supplements he has been supplied with are batch tested under Informed Sport, 100%. No chance it is a contaminated supp from my mate.

Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:28 Given Hearn was complaining about drugs being an issue in US boxing, it's amazing how many fighters have failed drugs tests and been on his shows since. Including the likes of
Galahad
Browne
Povetkin
Whyte
Rios

Maybe if fighters didn't see cheats being given future opportunities they would think twice... If the commissions won't ban them, the promoters can still cut them off and make an example of them...

Nondescript wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:40

tobyh5 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:34

The supplements he has been supplied with are batch tested under Informed Sport, 100%. No chance it is a contaminated supp from my mate.

Well that's good. By the way, I know you're very knowledgeable on this kind of thing- what's the main reason people take Dianabol specifically? What's it specifically good for?

jameswilson wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:42

Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:28 Given Hearn was complaining about drugs being an issue in US boxing, it's amazing how many fighters have failed drugs tests and been on his shows since. Including the likes of
Galahad
Browne
Povetkin
Whyte
Rios

Maybe if fighters didn't see cheats being given future opportunities they would think twice... If the commissions won't ban them, the promoters can still cut them off and make an example of them...

If any promoter is asked about drugs in boxing they will all give the same answer as we all would. It’s a promoters job to make money to be fair. If you’re expecting some white knight as a promoter go and follow another sport. Hennessy has continued to promote Hughie, who failed a test. Warren continued to promote Tyson and Saunders who both failed tests. I won’t bother to go searching through Teikken and the Japanese promoters but I’ve no doubt former drugs cheats have boxed in Japan, and obviously I wouldn’t have to look far to see evidence of it in America. You can then extend it to the suspected drug cheats. PAC man wasn’t signed up to vada at the weekend.

I blame the people who decide on the feeble punishments. If Whyte, Browne etc were given lengthy bans they wouldn’t be on any shows. The people giving the bans could easily force the promoters hands to not be able to even put fights on involving drug cheats.

JimJim2009 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:48 Probably won't take long for the WBC to remove him from the rankings

Spud wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:46 It is ALLEGED that DW has failed due to taking 2 x metabolites of the drug dianabol ...

Dianabol is the market name of the Methandienone or Methandrostenolone, which belongs to the C17 steroids family.

It is an androgenic and anabolic steroid & gives the following benefits:

Can push your limits...
Seriously enhance your performance...
Offer you a great physique way faster than you would have done on your own...

Furthermore Dianabol can ...

1 Rapidly up your body’s free testosterone

2 Gives a boost so that Red Blood Cell production increases.

3 Seriously upgrades your metabolic capacity.

4 Enhances the synthesis of protein

5 Allows you to have better recovery rates

6 Ups your body’s ability to retain nitrogen

7 Helps you burn fat

8 Increases your strength while decreasing your fatigue.

So this ALLEGED failed test is serious.

knockout wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 20:01 Jarrell Miller , Francois Botha , Tony Thompson, Mariusz Wach ....

Saying None of them looked ripped is an understatement!

One of the biggest dopers in sprinting and 100m WR holder Tim Montgomery looked like garbage .

They take drugs to improve performance not to improve aesthetics (although I accept there is generally some cross over )

Nondescript wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:45

jameswilson wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:42

If any promoter is asked about drugs in boxing they will all give the same answer as we all would. It’s a promoters job to make money to be fair. If you’re expecting some white knight as a promoter go and follow another sport. Hennessy has continued to promote Hughie, who failed a test. Warren continued to promote Tyson and Saunders who both failed tests. I won’t bother to go searching through Teikken and the Japanese promoters but I’ve no doubt former drugs cheats have boxed in Japan, and obviously I wouldn’t have to look far to see evidence of it in America. You can then extend it to the suspected drug cheats. PAC man wasn’t signed up to vada at the weekend.

I blame the people who decide on the feeble punishments. If Whyte, Browne etc were given lengthy bans they wouldn’t be on any shows. The people giving the bans could easily force the promoters hands to not be able to even put fights on involving drug cheats.

I think the point boxing prospect is making though is that Hearn specifically has complained about the issue of steroids in the US boxing scene.

Nondescript wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:52

Spud wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:46 It is ALLEGED that DW has failed due to taking 2 x metabolites of the drug dianabol ...

Dianabol is the market name of the Methandienone or Methandrostenolone, which belongs to the C17 steroids family.

It is an androgenic and anabolic steroid & gives the following benefits:

Can push your limits...
Seriously enhance your performance...
Offer you a great physique way faster than you would have done on your own...

Furthermore Dianabol can ...

1 Rapidly up your body’s free testosterone

2 Gives a boost so that Red Blood Cell production increases.

3 Seriously upgrades your metabolic capacity.

4 Enhances the synthesis of protein

5 Allows you to have better recovery rates

6 Ups your body’s ability to retain nitrogen

7 Helps you burn fat

8 Increases your strength while decreasing your fatigue.

So this ALLEGED failed test is serious.

He should ask for a refund.

Tugger28 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 15:00 If true.....shithouse. Now we know why he turned down Joshua

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:56

Nondescript wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 14:52

He should ask for a refund.

Did you see the state on him when the fight was first announced though? He certainly had a much improved physique in a relatively short space of time, even if it was a long way from being a great one...