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Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:28

Tony1244 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:26

Nothing. You saw the whole fight for practical purposes.

I think if i just watched rd. 1 I would have seen the whole fight.

I turned the sound off too because those a-hole commenters were yapping it up about everything except the fight in progress.

I thought that it was an interesting enough fight. I wouldn’t mind seeing Price v POV rematch.

ironbeard wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:33

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:28


I think if i just watched rd. 1 I would have seen the whole fight.

I turned the sound off too because those a-hole commenters were yapping it up about everything except the fight in progress.

I thought that it was an interesting enough fight. I wouldn’t mind seeing Price v POV.

Again?

Had it 8-4 Pov, felt it was a pretty clear win if you're not fooled by Hughie's prancing and air jabs

Pov not with the same snap on his shots he used to have, but still not a bad fighter at 40

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:34

ironbeard wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:33
I thought that it was an interesting enough fight. I wouldn’t mind seeing Price v POV.

Again?

Yes, I forgot the word “rematch.” Added it, but not quick enough for oogiebe The Kid.

ironbeard wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:36

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:34
Again?

Yes, I forgot the word “rematch.” Added it, but not quick enough for oogiebe The Kid.

I knew what you meant. I don't see the allure of it. Might be a closer fight than the first considering Pov's appearance today. He's not looking like a top 10 anymore. Not really sure what Pov's next move will be. Can't see him being relevant anymore.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Aug 2019, 21:17

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Aug 2019, 17:16
So you sincerely feel that Povetkin will beat Fury within a couple of rounds?

If what you’ve claimed is a sincere opinion, then that’s essentially what you’re saying.

That is not at all what I'm saying. And typical of your reading between the lines.
In a 10 round fight I expect the scores to be
8-2 or a late stoppage

You adamantly claimed that Alexander Povetkin was ten times better than Hughie Fury.

Is it safe to assume that you were wrong?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:44

tiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Aug 2019, 21:17
That is not at all what I'm saying. And typical of your reading between the lines.
In a 10 round fight I expect the scores to be
8-2 or a late stoppage

You adamantly claimed that Alexander Povetkin was ten times better than Hughie Fury.

Is it safe to assume that you were wrong?

He still won. Lol
Hughie is bang average. Povetkin is older than dirt.
Neither will be the man

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 18:10

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:44

You adamantly claimed that Alexander Povetkin was ten times better than Hughie Fury.

Is it safe to assume that you were wrong?

He still won. Lol
Hughie is bang average. Povetkin is older than dirt.
Neither will be the man

You had the score pretty much right. What was it? 9-3? YOu had 8-2. Good work Tiny!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:44

tiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Aug 2019, 21:17
That is not at all what I'm saying. And typical of your reading between the lines.
In a 10 round fight I expect the scores to be
8-2 or a late stoppage

You adamantly claimed that Alexander Povetkin was ten times better than Hughie Fury.

Is it safe to assume that you were wrong?

He was incorrect in claiming that Povetkin was ten times better than Hughie Fury. In truth, Povetkin is a hundred times better than Hughie. That's right: one hundred times better.

However, Alexander Povetkin the fighter was not in the ring tonight. Nowhere to be seen. The fat blond haired guy we saw was not Povetkin the fighter. Rather, he was Povetkin the rich, out-of-shape, middle aged recreational golfer who, once upon a time, happened to have been a ferocious fighter. Two different Povetkins.

Get the point?

Povetkin the fighter -- who once existed but not anymore -- would have put Hughie's head in the dime seats within five rounds.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:44

tiny_acres wrote: ↑29 Aug 2019, 21:17
That is not at all what I'm saying. And typical of your reading between the lines.
In a 10 round fight I expect the scores to be
8-2 or a late stoppage

You adamantly claimed that Alexander Povetkin was ten times better than Hughie Fury.

Is it safe to assume that you were wrong?

Fight was VERY predictable. The only real variables were injury and the judges. As there was no hometown interference this time, and neither boxer sustained a fight-ending injury, Sasha, being stronger and busier, edged the decision. Why any of you here -and most of you are very knowledgeable about boxing- would think Hughie wouldn't wear out the 12 rounds is surprising.

diddy wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:16 I couldnt have been more wrong about this. They obviously dont give half a crap about Hughie over there. They didnt protect him AT ALL.

Nobody ever gave a crap about fury and there was no reason to suggest otherwise.

40 year old depleted Pov still beat him 9-3, prime Pov woudn't have lost a round I don't think

Funny that this thread is bigger than the Loma vs Campbell one.

Didn't announcer Tim Bradley say that Fury was "well ahead" during the 11th round? I'm wondering how many other people here saw it that way.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑29 Aug 2019, 23:05 Hughie has far more "class" (meaning skills) than Bugner ever had on any night, but, yes, so far he hasn't showed the desire to seek and destroy as Bugner tried to do at least.

I don't mean to be argumentative, but you are wrong about Bugner. The reality is that the prime Bugner was easily a higher class fighter than Hughie, possibly in every respect too. I'm talking about the 1973-1976 version of Bugner, especially the one who fought Ali and Frazier in 1973. Bugner's defensive skills, and hand/foot speed were no less good than Hughies. And Bugner's durability was far superior to Hughie's, I think.

Bugner's problem is that when he was put under serious pressure, he went into his defensive shell, and for some reason he stayed there. That's how he lost fights he should have won. Joe also had problems sustaining his offensive, possibly because he was a tad musclebound (that's what Henry Cooper said, at least). But Bugner's flaws weren't as bad as Hughie's.

I can't imagine a prime Bugner being made to feel vulnerable -- and put on the run -- by the likes of Parker and Pulev. Also, I'm certain that a prime Bugner would have used his left jab effectively enough to have outpointed the burned out, aged version of Povektin that Hughie "lost" to today.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 18:10

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 17:44

You adamantly claimed that Alexander Povetkin was ten times better than Hughie Fury.

Is it safe to assume that you were wrong?

He still won. Lol
Hughie is bang average. Povetkin is older than dirt.
Neither will be the man

I also predicted a win for Povetkin but I knew you were wrong about the Russian being ten times better than Fury.

It sadly appears you won’t admit this.

JohnReed wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 20:53

sturm vogel wrote: ↑29 Aug 2019, 23:05 Hughie has far more "class" (meaning skills) than Bugner ever had on any night, but, yes, so far he hasn't showed the desire to seek and destroy as Bugner tried to do at least.

I don't mean to be argumentative, but you are wrong about Bugner. The reality is that the prime Bugner was easily a higher class fighter than Hughie, possibly in every respect too. I'm talking about the 1973-1976 version of Bugner, especially the one who fought Ali and Frazier in 1973. Bugner's defensive skills, and hand/foot speed were no less good than Hughies. And Bugner's durability was far superior to Hughie's, I think.

Bugner's problem is that when he was put under serious pressure, he went into his defensive shell, and for some reason he stayed there. That's how he lost fights he should have won. Joe also had problems sustaining his offensive, possibly because he was a tad musclebound (that's what Henry Cooper said, at least). But Bugner's flaws weren't as bad as Hughie's.

I can't imagine a prime Bugner being made to feel vulnerable -- and put on the run -- by the likes of Parker and Pulev. Also, I'm certain that a prime Bugner would have used his left jab effectively enough to have outpointed the burned out, aged version of Povektin that Hughie "lost" to today.

Reads like this Hughie Fury...



Bugner lost every time he stepped up to a higher level

-Not unlike this Hughie Fury...

That was the first time I'd ever seen Hughie fight and I was not very impressed. He seemed totally one-handed. A jab and nothing else.

Also the announcers were a bit weird. Povetkin was the guy with the world-class resume who has been in the top 10 (if not top 5) forever, and they were talking as though Hughie was a huge favorite coming in when in fact he was a slight underdog.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 22:45

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 18:10

He still won. Lol
Hughie is bang average. Povetkin is older than dirt.
Neither will be the man

I also predicted a win for Povetkin but I knew you were wrong about the Russian being ten times better than Fury.

It sadly appears you won’t admit this.

Sorry. I don't feel I'm wrong

JohnReed wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 20:45 Didn't announcer Tim Bradley say that Fury was "well ahead" during the 11th round? I'm wondering how many other people here saw it that way.

Paulie Malignaggi

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 23:12

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 22:45
I also predicted a win for Povetkin but I knew you were wrong about the Russian being ten times better than Fury.

It sadly appears you won’t admit this.

Sorry. I don't feel I'm wrong

Povetkin isn’t ten times better than Fury.

You were WRONG but no one can force you to admit it.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Aug 2019, 19:28

I’m going to go out on a limb here, by boldly proclaiming that the likelihood of an upset being scored in the Povetkin-Fury bout is pretty significant.

My god, will this fight finally kill the Hughie Fury hype train? He just is not that good, and boring as hell to boot.

Who am I kidding, he will keep getting big fights, and everyone will say "He only lost to top 10 fighters, he's really good, he's still young...."

SportsRatings wrote: ↑01 Sep 2019, 02:49 My god, will this fight finally kill the Hughie Fury hype train? He just is not that good, and boring as hell to boot.

Who am I kidding, he will keep getting big fights, and everyone will say "He only lost to top 10 fighters, he's really good, he's still young...."

For me his performance against Pulev has already killed the remains of hype about him. I picked Povetkin to win in the way he actually did it.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Sep 2019, 01:08

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 23:12

Sorry. I don't feel I'm wrong

Povetkin isn’t ten times better than Fury.

You were WRONG but no one can force you to admit it.

I'm curious...how many times better is he?