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Paci wrote: ↑05 Apr 2020, 20:06 I do think that the new p4p from boxrec has changed things.

Pretty cool that Ezzard Charles is the nr.1 of alltime based on records or something. Don't know how. Just find it funny and awesome for Charles.

RonnyJ wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 05:07

Paci wrote: ↑05 Apr 2020, 20:06 I do think that the new p4p from boxrec has changed things.

Pretty cool that Ezzard Charles is the nr.1 of alltime based on records or something. Don't know how. Just find it funny and awesome for Charles.

i dont understand the rating system of them. if it is amunt of fights and wins over champions, than it obviously should be robinson. boxrec had mayweather as the best ever, no charles. all of the sudden mayweather is a 1.000 points away. they changing how say want, without making sense.

RonnyJ wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 05:07

Paci wrote: ↑05 Apr 2020, 20:06 I do think that the new p4p from boxrec has changed things.

Pretty cool that Ezzard Charles is the nr.1 of alltime based on records or something. Don't know how. Just find it funny and awesome for Charles.

i dont understand the rating system of them. if it is amunt of fights and wins over champions, than it obviously should be robinson. boxrec had mayweather as the best ever, no charles. all of the sudden mayweather is a 1.000 points away. they changing how say want, without making sense.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 05:37

RonnyJ wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 05:07

i dont understand the rating system of them. if it is amunt of fights and wins over champions, than it obviously should be robinson. boxrec had mayweather as the best ever, no charles. all of the sudden mayweather is a 1.000 points away. they changing how say want, without making sense.

According to the new ratings:

• Joe Calzaghe > Muhammad Ali
• Ricky Hatton > Roberto Duran
• Mike Tyson > Evander Holyfield
• Miguel Cotto > Tommy Hearns
• Vitali Klitschko > George Foreman, Joe Frazier & Larry Holmes
• Joe Frazier > George Foreman
• Jermain Taylor > Kelly Pavlik
• Nikolay Valuev > Tyson Fury, Michael Moorer, Ken Norton & David Haye

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 05:46

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 05:37
According to the new ratings:

• Joe Calzaghe > Muhammad Ali
• Ricky Hatton > Roberto Duran
• Mike Tyson > Evander Holyfield
• Miguel Cotto > Tommy Hearns
• Vitali Klitschko > George Foreman, Joe Frazier & Larry Holmes
• Joe Frazier > George Foreman
• Jermain Taylor > Kelly Pavlik
• Nikolay Valuev > Tyson Fury, Michael Moorer, Ken Norton & David Haye

One thing is true neither of you or the ratings makes any sense. Neither do I from time to time.

But, I counted that 7 of the top 25 where not from the states. Top 10 is all US. First one up is Pacquaio at 11 who isn't an american.

RonnyJ wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 06:44

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 05:46

One thing is true neither of you or the ratings makes any sense. Neither do I from time to time.

But, I counted that 7 of the top 25 where not from the states. Top 10 is all US. First one up is Pacquaio at 11 who isn't an american.

I make sense

RonnyJ wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 06:44

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 05:46

One thing is true neither of you or the ratings makes any sense. Neither do I from time to time.

But, I counted that 7 of the top 25 where not from the states. Top 10 is all US. First one up is Pacquaio at 11 who isn't an american.

I make sense

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 07:17

RonnyJ wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 06:44

I make sense

What? You insecure bastard! Yeah! In your own way.

Mostly waiting on EO's ranking. That have too be top notch or something. Or else he wouldn't put so much effort in whinning about other people putting old timers on theirs.

Could make one alltime based on respecteable wins, then I would go crazy.

RonnyJ wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 08:56

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 07:17

What? You insecure bastard! Yeah! In your own way.

Mostly waiting on EO's ranking. That have too be top notch or something. Or else he wouldn't put so much effort in whinning about other people putting old timers on theirs.

Could make one alltime based on respecteable wins, then I would go crazy.

there arent better boxer than those i mention, that makes sense on a best boxers list

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 10:36 Only list I wanna see now is EO's.

RonnyJ wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 11:08

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 10:36 Only list I wanna see now is EO's.

I am curious too

He is a perfectionist. It would take him 10 years to make a top 5 and a lifetime for top 20.

I mean it very easy to make a short list.
If u mostly focus on record and quality of opposition than robinson, pac, ali, leonard are your guys. If you focus on ability than jones, lomachenko, leonard etc..

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 10:36 Only list I wanna see now is EO's.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 15:13 See, if I'm EO, I swoop in now with a list, because I then can quote you and prove you wrong about that! And you know how our boi loves that

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 14:50

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 10:36 Only list I wanna see now is EO's.

It'll never happen. Any schmo who just posts criticisms and is as sensitive as he is won't put himself out there. Never, no way.

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 16:31

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 14:50

It'll never happen. Any schmo who just posts criticisms and is as sensitive as he is won't put himself out there. Never, no way.

Pretty boring in the long run with all his whinning about alltimers. Many strange rumors and BS around them for sure, but still their records stick out. Well, I didn't either since I sort of splitt it in half. And cheated more or less. Not making my own stupid list.

Many ATGs to pick from since the start of the gloved era. So no problems really, just he would never put his chin out since he would be so trashed. No problem with Sugar Ray begin the top guy for most people. Or really make an argument.

Like how some greats can adopt when their speed ain't the same or they won't get mileage for a fanfriendly slugfest and goes the route of outboxing and just pissing everyone off when it come to the blood and guts of it.
Not saying that their comes along real animals like LaMotta, McCall and Chavez who ain't normal.
Roy Jones is a prime exemple of somebody who was the greatest in his prime and begin of his decline showed when he started losing his speed and couldn't fight the same way anymore. He just counterpunched even more and couldn't set his traps or get away with making mistakes anymore. Tarver might have knock'd out Jones, but Johnson just beat him silly and walking him down allnight long. Watch that fight once.

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 16:33

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 16:31

Pretty boring in the long run with all his whinning about alltimers. Many strange rumors and BS around them for sure, but still their records stick out. Well, I didn't either since I sort of splitt it in half. And cheated more or less. Not making my own stupid list.

Many ATGs to pick from since the start of the gloved era. So no problems really, just he would never put his chin out since he would be so trashed. No problem with Sugar Ray begin the top guy for most people. Or really make an argument.

Like how some greats can adopt when their speed ain't the same or they won't get mileage for a fanfriendly slugfest and goes the route of outboxing and just pissing everyone off when it come to the blood and guts of it.
Not saying that their comes along real animals like LaMotta, McCall and Chavez who ain't normal.
Roy Jones is a prime exemple of somebody who was the greatest in his prime and begin of his decline showed when he started losing his speed and couldn't fight the same way anymore. He just counterpunched even more and couldn't set his traps or get away with making mistakes anymore. Tarver might have knock'd out Jones, but Johnson just beat him silly and walking him down allnight long. Watch that fight once.

EO is a spoiled, whiney pisspot. Arrogant and sensitive at the same time. Probably a social pariah.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 08:47

RonnyJ wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 06:44

I make sense

Not with boxing, you're the worst.

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 16:33 EO is a spoiled, whiney pisspot. Arrogant and sensitive at the same time. Probably a social pariah.

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 17:18

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 16:33 EO is a spoiled, whiney pisspot. Arrogant and sensitive at the same time. Probably a social pariah.

He does make some good wordsallads however.

RonnyJ wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 16:44

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 08:47

Not with boxing, you're the worst.

That is clear that u go after me every possible time. U should be ashamed for your behaviour.

How is the weather in dallas right now?

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 17:18

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 16:33 EO is a spoiled, whiney pisspot. Arrogant and sensitive at the same time. Probably a social pariah.

He does make some good wordsallads however.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 21:18

Paci wrote: ↑06 Apr 2020, 17:18

He does make some good wordsallads however.

I wouldn't call them salads. More like junk yards.