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Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 27 Jun 2021, 05:48
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 27 Jun 2021, 06:06
by margaret thatcher
unfortunetly looking great doesnt mean nearly as much as actually beating a top opponent

he's obviously still very good but he better get a move on if he wants to still have it when he faces a top guy again

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 27 Jun 2021, 07:07
by Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 27 Jun 2021, 07:08
by Ruthless-RKO
Loma had no rematch clause, but put a beat down on a mutual opponent.

Has earned that rematch.

This was the way of boxing years ago. Not just getting blasted out in a few rounds and then getting a rematch because it was in the contract.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 27 Jun 2021, 07:08
by margaret thatcher
was it vs russell that compubox literally had gary landing at 9 percent or something.....i think that was fairly accurate tbh :lol:

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 27 Jun 2021, 07:09
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 07:08 was it vs russell that compubox literally had gary landing at 9 percent or something.....i think that was fairly accurate tbh :lol:
Haha!

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 27 Jun 2021, 07:10
by margaret thatcher
im sure a rematch will happen, in house like uncle bob likes it. teo should be confident he'd do it again, and loma wants revenge. seems natural

teo just resigned with top rank as well....he's their long term guy now

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 27 Jun 2021, 10:24
by DrDuke
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 07:08 Loma had no rematch clause, but put a beat down on a mutual opponent.

Has earned that rematch.

This was the way of boxing years ago. Not just getting blasted out in a few rounds and then getting a rematch because it was in the contract.
The rematch should be majorly because of the sh!tty scores. It was either a draw or close dec for Lopez, but it was too wide.

At first I didn't want a rematch, cause Loma looked fed up with challenges and suffered another injury, but, after Loma came back fit and with such a will, the rematch gotta be interesting.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 27 Jun 2021, 10:55
by ironbeard
Kambosos is still in the way.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 27 Jun 2021, 19:45
by Evander
While it was a good win for Lomachenko I couldn't help but ask myself would he win a rematch with Teo after this.
I'd have to lean toward Teo, that said I'm sure Lomachenko will make him work real hard for it.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 28 Jun 2021, 08:15
by Ruthless-RKO
Evander wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 19:45 While it was a good win for Lomachenko I couldn't help but ask myself would he win a rematch with Teo after this.
I'd have to lean toward Teo, that said I'm sure Lomachenko will make him work real hard for it.
Loma gave Teo waaaayyy too much respect.

He didn't do crap in the first 7 rounds, basically handed them to him.

Image

^^

Seem's accurate.

Didn't land double digits til round 8, it ws too late.

When he did turn up, he was dominant.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 28 Jun 2021, 08:25
by Onetimeonly
Teo was whistling counter bombs that just missed. Loma was used to toying with inferior fighters. Lopez tested his defensive skills and made him punch less.

Credit to loma for nutting up when he knew he was down but Lopez outnutted him in a dominant last Rd.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 28 Jun 2021, 08:35
by Onetimeonly
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 07:08 Loma had no rematch clause, but put a beat down on a mutual opponent.

Has earned that rematch.

This was the way of boxing years ago. Not just getting blasted out in a few rounds and then getting a rematch because it was in the contract.
Agreed he deserves a rematch, but back in the day champions almost always got rematches and that was before rematch clauses. Even now, the clauses are just for voluntaries unless the champ is a massive name.

It's just annoying because they only fight once or twice a year at the top now.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 28 Jun 2021, 08:37
by gilgamesh
Onetimeonly wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 08:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 07:08 Loma had no rematch clause, but put a beat down on a mutual opponent.

Has earned that rematch.

This was the way of boxing years ago. Not just getting blasted out in a few rounds and then getting a rematch because it was in the contract.
Agreed he deserves a rematch, but back in the day champions almost always got rematches and that was before rematch clauses. Even now, the clauses are just for voluntaries unless the champ is a massive name.

It's just annoying because they only fight once or twice a year at the top now.
A big part of the reason why Boxing is less popular than it used to be. (Many reasons, but that surely don't help)

Imagine if the top NBA team, played 2 games and called it a season.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 28 Jun 2021, 08:39
by Ruthless-RKO
Onetimeonly wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 08:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 07:08 Loma had no rematch clause, but put a beat down on a mutual opponent.

Has earned that rematch.

This was the way of boxing years ago. Not just getting blasted out in a few rounds and then getting a rematch because it was in the contract.
Agreed he deserves a rematch, but back in the day champions almost always got rematches and that was before rematch clauses. Even now, the clauses are just for voluntaries unless the champ is a massive name.

It's just annoying because they only fight once or twice a year at the top now.
They’re overpaid. They make enough money one fight for the year..

Russell literally just fights a mandatory every year.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 28 Jun 2021, 08:42
by Onetimeonly
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 08:39
Onetimeonly wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 08:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 07:08 Loma had no rematch clause, but put a beat down on a mutual opponent.

Has earned that rematch.

This was the way of boxing years ago. Not just getting blasted out in a few rounds and then getting a rematch because it was in the contract.
Agreed he deserves a rematch, but back in the day champions almost always got rematches and that was before rematch clauses. Even now, the clauses are just for voluntaries unless the champ is a massive name.

It's just annoying because they only fight once or twice a year at the top now.
They’re overpaid. They make enough money one fight for the year..

Russell literally just fights a mandatory every year.
:TU:

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 28 Jun 2021, 18:00
by Alguiffer
Long time boxing pal of over 60 years Frankie La La and I made the trip out to Vegas to see this fight. We had seen many fights in the past at this venue when it was the Joint of the Hardrock. Venue is now called the Theater under new owner Virgin and no changes were made to the venue layout(venue is very small with great sight lines for every seat - even from the balcony). The chance to see Loma in a venue like this was too good to be true. We sat third row ring side and had a good view of Nakatani's corner. We both felt this fight should have been stopped by the corner/doctor after the seventh round. Nakatani took a real beating in round nine. Lopez's old man was in the house and wants a rematch in Madison Square Garden.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 29 Jun 2021, 12:31
by Thomastearns
Yes it was another tremendous win by Loma.

Once again fighting outside his best weight and giving away yards in height and reach. You can say what you like about Lomachenko but you can't say he doesn't like to test himself.

Nakatani was a game opponent but that injury gives a lot to be concerned about.

For some reason eye sockets seem particularly vulnerable these days.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 29 Jun 2021, 22:58
by Evander
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 08:15
Evander wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 19:45 While it was a good win for Lomachenko I couldn't help but ask myself would he win a rematch with Teo after this.
I'd have to lean toward Teo, that said I'm sure Lomachenko will make him work real hard for it.
Loma gave Teo waaaayyy too much respect.

He didn't do crap in the first 7 rounds, basically handed them to him.

Image

^^

Seem's accurate.

Didn't land double digits til round 8, it ws too late.

When he did turn up, he was dominant.
I think most people were surprised to see Teo rack up that many early rounds, I know I was.
It not only put him in solid shape on the cards, it also gave him a huge boost in confidence and belief that he could actually pull it off.
Once Lomachenko got going he had success, perhaps he misjudged just how many rounds in the fight to give up and had dug himself a hole he just couldn't get out of.
The rematch seems to be a no brainer and just a matter of when, guess we'll have a better idea come August 14th.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 29 Jun 2021, 23:07
by Evander
Alguiffer wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 18:00 Long time boxing pal of over 60 years Frankie La La and I made the trip out to Vegas to see this fight. We had seen many fights in the past at this venue when it was the Joint of the Hardrock. Venue is now called the Theater under new owner Virgin and no changes were made to the venue layout(venue is very small with great sight lines for every seat - even from the balcony). The chance to see Loma in a venue like this was too good to be true. We sat third row ring side and had a good view of Nakatani's corner. We both felt this fight should have been stopped by the corner/doctor after the seventh round. Nakatani took a real beating in round nine. Lopez's old man was in the house and wants a rematch in Madison Square Garden.
Sometimes the smaller venues are the best ones.
I saw him fight Nicholas Walters at the Cosmopolitan which is close to where you just saw him and that's a pretty small venue, a good one though and a decent atmosphere.
Sounds like you got a good seat and enjoyed it.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 30 Jun 2021, 06:13
by Ruthless-RKO
Evander wrote: 29 Jun 2021, 22:58
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 08:15
Evander wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 19:45 While it was a good win for Lomachenko I couldn't help but ask myself would he win a rematch with Teo after this.
I'd have to lean toward Teo, that said I'm sure Lomachenko will make him work real hard for it.
Loma gave Teo waaaayyy too much respect.

He didn't do crap in the first 7 rounds, basically handed them to him.

Image

^^

Seem's accurate.

Didn't land double digits til round 8, it ws too late.

When he did turn up, he was dominant.
I think most people were surprised to see Teo rack up that many early rounds, I know I was.
It not only put him in solid shape on the cards, it also gave him a huge boost in confidence and belief that he could actually pull it off.
Once Lomachenko got going he had success, perhaps he misjudged just how many rounds in the fight to give up and had dug himself a hole he just couldn't get out of.
The rematch seems to be a no brainer and just a matter of when, guess we'll have a better idea come August 14th.
August 14?

Lopez-Kambosos is Sept 11 now

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 30 Jun 2021, 06:28
by Enlightened-One
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 06:13
Evander wrote: 29 Jun 2021, 22:58
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 08:15

Loma gave Teo waaaayyy too much respect.

He didn't do crap in the first 7 rounds, basically handed them to him.

Image

^^

Seem's accurate.

Didn't land double digits til round 8, it ws too late.

When he did turn up, he was dominant.
I think most people were surprised to see Teo rack up that many early rounds, I know I was.
It not only put him in solid shape on the cards, it also gave him a huge boost in confidence and belief that he could actually pull it off.
Once Lomachenko got going he had success, perhaps he misjudged just how many rounds in the fight to give up and had dug himself a hole he just couldn't get out of.
The rematch seems to be a no brainer and just a matter of when, guess we'll have a better idea come August 14th.
August 14?

Lopez-Kambosos is Sept 11 now
The event is currently advertised to air at 2am (UK time) on the 15th August via Fite TV.

Re: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Masayoshi Nakatani - June 26, 2021

Posted: 30 Jun 2021, 06:33
by Ruthless-RKO
Enlightened-One wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 06:28
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 06:13
Evander wrote: 29 Jun 2021, 22:58

I think most people were surprised to see Teo rack up that many early rounds, I know I was.
It not only put him in solid shape on the cards, it also gave him a huge boost in confidence and belief that he could actually pull it off.
Once Lomachenko got going he had success, perhaps he misjudged just how many rounds in the fight to give up and had dug himself a hole he just couldn't get out of.
The rematch seems to be a no brainer and just a matter of when, guess we'll have a better idea come August 14th.
August 14?

Lopez-Kambosos is Sept 11 now
The event is currently advertised to air at 2am (UK time) on the 15th August via Fite TV.
Ah. Will have to see what they do.