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oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:43

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:42 dont agree with that at all, not to take away from a good fight, but no way that vlasov didnt win at least 6 rounds

That was a very close fight. I thought Vlasov deserved it, but it could've gone either way depending on how those close rounds were scored.

ArmPuncher wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:45 I had it 8-4 Vlasov. Sure Smith won his rounds bigger and finished very strong in the last 2, but he was really outboxed for most of this fight. There is no way he won this fight, a draw would be generous for him.

giacomino wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:46 Yeah, that was a 114-114 fight at worst for Vlasov. I thought it was pretty one-sided in the first half of the fight, Smith made it much more competitive in the second half

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:48

ArmPuncher wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:45 I had it 8-4 Vlasov. Sure Smith won his rounds bigger and finished very strong in the last 2, but he was really outboxed for most of this fight. There is no way he won this fight, a draw would be generous for him.

I can't see 8-4

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:49

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:48

ArmPuncher wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:45 I had it 8-4 Vlasov. Sure Smith won his rounds bigger and finished very strong in the last 2, but he was really outboxed for most of this fight. There is no way he won this fight, a draw would be generous for him.

I can't see 8-4

if you cant see that, then you must think joe clearly won at least 5 rounds, but i cant see that.

he clearly won 7, 11, and 12, but which others?

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:52

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:49

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:48

I can't see 8-4

if you cant see that, then you must think joe clearly won at least 5 rounds, but i cant see that.

he clearly won 7, 11, and 12, but which others?

No. That's all or nothing thinking.

I didn't score along the way, but I do remember having some rounds too close to call. I thought Vlasov won, but a draw would have been fine with me. I tink I posted that before at the end of the fight.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:54

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:52

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:49

if you cant see that, then you must think joe clearly won at least 5 rounds, but i cant see that.

he clearly won 7, 11, and 12, but which others?

No. That's all or nothing thinking.

I didn't score along the way, but I do remember having some rounds too close to call. I thought Vlasov won, but a draw would have been fine with me. I tink I posted that before at the end of the fight.

if you cant see it as wide as 8-4 for vlasov, then surely that means you think smith defo won at least 5 rounds. because if you don't think defo won at least 5, then there's your route to 8-4 vlasov

skanksta wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:58 Totally agree TIL...

Impossible to not to have 5-1 or 6-0 in the first half. Vlas had (much) more effective aggression, total ring-generalship and far superior defence. And Vlas clearly won the 9th or 10th (? when Joe went back to his corner slapping his hands together in frustration and shouting "c'mon" to himself).

I can accept a slightly cooked draw - you only gotta get one round wrong from 7-5, but which SEVEN rounds did Joe win ?
A 10-8 round too !

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Apr 2021, 00:02 If I'm being as harsh as possible on Vlasov, he still wins 4 of the first 6 and then 8-9, for a total of 6 rounds. I just don't see how you can give him less than that

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Apr 2021, 00:02

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Apr 2021, 00:02 If I'm being as harsh as possible on Vlasov, he still wins 4 of the first 6 and then 8-9, for a total of 6 rounds. I just don't see how you can give him less than that

Are you reading my posts? LMFAO!

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:59

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:54

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:52
No. That's all or nothing thinking.

I didn't score along the way, but I do remember having some rounds too close to call. I thought Vlasov won, but a draw would have been fine with me. I tink I posted that before at the end of the fight.

if you cant see it as wide as 8-4 for vlasov, then surely that means you think smith defo won at least 5 rounds. because if you don't think defo won at least 5, then there's your route to 8-4 vlasov

Winning 8 rounds would make it clear to me who won the fight even not tracking my scores.

gregregegg wrote: ↑11 Apr 2021, 00:05

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:59

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 23:54

if you cant see it as wide as 8-4 for vlasov, then surely that means you think smith defo won at least 5 rounds. because if you don't think defo won at least 5, then there's your route to 8-4 vlasov

Winning 8 rounds would make it clear to me who won the fight even not tracking my scores.

Doubt it, what if you edge 8 rounds. And lose 4. You can easily win a fight 8-4 without a clear winner when casual observing. I mean in theroy you can win a fair shutout in a very very competitive fight.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Apr 2021, 00:11 one of the judges scored the 11th 10-8 for smith , it was a big round but not sure it was 10-8 without a kd big

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2021, 17:51 FORMER prospect (lol!) Milton Ko's Dafney in 1.

First time I've seen Milton live in the pros. My opinion? I'm removing him from my watch list!

aicheligad wrote: ↑11 Apr 2021, 04:39 Vlasov was better. Robbery. But it was predictable that they will rob him.

gregregegg wrote: ↑11 Apr 2021, 05:17

aicheligad wrote: ↑11 Apr 2021, 04:39 Vlasov was better. Robbery. But it was predictable that they will rob him.

I think thats my final take away from the fight... Kinda sickening to just accept that try forget it by next week and watch some boxing again.

Imagine if you watched basketball and the home team got 5 points for a layup, and 8 for a three pointer.... thats basicaly boxing.