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starting weigh ins now for main card

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Aug 2021, 15:04 i saw recent training photos of ugas and he had something really wonky going on his with left arm, like biggely swollen bicep

after seeing this comment i payed closer attention at the weigh ins, the outside of his left bicept definatly had a weird lump in it. dosent look great to be going into the biggest fight of his carrer. (that said, havent gone down the rabbit hole too deep, mabey he always has a wonky left bicept.)

Ugas wins. Sorry Manny fans.

ugas got a messed up arm there, has a weird pointy lump and swollen

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Aug 2021, 20:34 ugas got a messed up arm there, has a weird pointy lump and swollen

Wow. I see that now. May be a better fight than I think?

obviously something wrong with his arm, maybe he injured it but the opportunity is simply too good to pull out of, plus a lot of ppl would lose a lot of money if he did

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Aug 2021, 20:39 obviously something wrong with his arm, maybe he injured it but the opportunity is simply too good to pull out of, plus a lot of ppl would lose a lot of money if he did

well Iv bet on him by KO.... so i hope thatsits just a bit of extra roids in that arm rather than a bicept tear...

KiwiRider wrote: ↑20 Aug 2021, 05:16

bobcatbox wrote: ↑20 Aug 2021, 01:33 I’m just not stoked at all about this card after Spence dropped off.. I’m trying guys.. I’m trying…

I'm more stoked about Ugas over Spence.
I'm a Pacquiao fan, and didn't want to watch Spence pulverising the brave wee fella.
I think Ugas is a better closer fight.

I wanted the see the Pac Man upset Errol Spence in vintage form. Alas I’ll settle for the highlights. The wife agreed to let me watch the bare knuckle card tonight and go to the ballpark for a game on Sunday.. she possesses dominion of our television this Saturday night.

agree with the kiwiman, i wasnt that interested in manny-spence because i expected spence to win pretty easy, but i see this as much more competitive and have struggled to pick a winner

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑21 Aug 2021, 02:04 agree with the kiwiman, i wasnt that interested in manny-spence because i expected spence to win pretty easy, but i see this as much more competitive and have struggled to pick a winner

Ha, nice
I am leaning 55/45 Pac.
I would have bet on Spence, but this fight I'm keeping my wallet closed

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑21 Aug 2021, 02:04 agree with the kiwiman, i wasnt that interested in manny-spence because i expected spence to win pretty easy, but i see this as much more competitive and have struggled to pick a winner

Same stuff. I lean towards Pac, but who knows actually.

Stats and Stakes

Yordenis Ugas

Age: 35
Title: WBA Welterweight (2021-Present, 1st Attempted Defense)*
Previous Titles: None
Height: 5’9
Weight: 147 lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Miami, Florida (Hails from Cuba)
Record: 26-4, 12 KO
Press Rankings: #4 (TBRB), #5 (BoxRec, Ring), #6 (ESPN)
Record in Major Title Fights: 0-1 (1-1 including WBA sub-title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 140-11-8 (.906)

Notable Outcomes, TBRB and/or Ring Rated Foes: Shawn Porter L12

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Omar Figueroa UD12

vs.

Manny Pacquiao

Age: 42
Title: None

Previous Titles: Lineal/WBC World Flyweight (1998-99, 1 Defense); IBF Super Bantamweight 2001-03, 4 Defenses); Lineal/Ring World Featherweight (2003-05, 2 Defenses); Lineal/Ring/WBC World Jr. Lightweight (2008); WBC Lightweight (2008-09); Lineal/Ring World Jr. Welterweight (2009-10); WBC Light Middleweight (2010); WBO Welterweight, (2009-12, 3 Defenses; 2014-15, 1 Defense; 2016-17, 1 Defense); TBRB Welterweight (2016; Retired); WBA Welterweight (2019-21)

Height: 5’5 ½
Weight: 146 lbs.
Stance: Southpaw
Hails from: General Santos City, Cotabato del Sur, Philippines
Record: 62-7-2, 39 KO, 3 KOBY
Press Rankings: #3 (Ring, ESPN)
Record in Major Title Fights: 21-4-2, 11 KO, 1 KOBY (including Lineal, Ring, or TBRB title Fights); 23-4-2, 12 KO, 1 KOBY (including WBA sub-title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 144-8-2 (.942)

Notable Outcomes, TBRB and/or Ring Rated Foes: Chatchai Sasakul KO8; Lehlo Ledwaba TKO6; Agapito Sanchez Tech. Draw 6, Marco Antonio Barrera TKO11, UD12; Juan Manuel Marquez D12, SD12, MD12, KO by 6; Erik Morales L12, TKO10, KO3; Oscar Larios UD12; Jorge Solis KO8; David Diaz TKO9; Oscar De La Hoya RTD8; Ricky Hatton KO2; Miguel Cotto TKO12; Joshua Clottey UD12; Shane Mosley UD12; Timothy Bradley L12, UD12, UD12; Brandon Rios UD12; Chris Algieri UD12; Floyd Mayweather L12; Jesse Vargas UD12; Lucas Matthysse TKO7; Adrien Broner UD12; Keith Thurman SD12

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Medgoen Singsurat TKO by 3; Jorge Eliecer Julio TKO2; Antonio Margarito UD12; Jeff Horn L12

To me the smart money bet is on Pac. Ugas is a very talented boxer, but doesn't have the punch volume to win on the cards, nor the body attack that Spence has. Close rounds will go to Manny. Aside from a KO, I think he's losing a decision, especially with his obviously comprimised left arm.

Maybe Ugas just injected steroids in his left bicep to have powah in it, that's why it's so bulked up and Ugas will KO Pac with the left hook.

The Ugas jab at Spence, referring to his own health issues not keeping from fighting, makes sense now.

Not buying it at $75. Hopefully it will be on my Russian propaganda feed.

Ugas has to try and swarm Pac early and hope age has ruined his chin because that arm looks like it will bother him after a few rounds

joshj909 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2021, 10:33 Ugas has to try and swarm Pac early and hope age has ruined his chin because that arm looks like it will bother him after a few rounds

I disagree. Ugas should potshot from distance for the first third of the fight and slowly turn up the pressure, IMO, not allowing Pac to clip him early. Later rounds Ugas should step it up with hard rights to Pac’s bod and then come up top with a howitzer, similar to what JMM did on the first KD in the fourth fight with his lefts to the bod.

None of it will matter if Ugas left arm is totally trashed.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Aug 2021, 15:06

aicheligad wrote: ↑20 Aug 2021, 07:34 Ugas is a favourite of course but I wouldn't be shocked if Pacquiao wins (especially if by robbery).

pac is a cozy betting fave, you should throw some cash on ugas if you like his chances

400zł (+100$) went for Ugas. 200 by PTS (5.00), 200 by KO (12.00).

gregregegg wrote: ↑20 Aug 2021, 17:15

aicheligad wrote: ↑20 Aug 2021, 07:34 Ugas is a favourite of course but I wouldn't be shocked if Pacquiao wins (especially if by robbery).

I hope you like gambling if you belive that. because bookies have manny as a strong favorite.

Look at my post above. Hopefully I'm gonna win like when I've bet on Joyce win vs Dubois in rounds 10-12 and when I have predicted the whole card of Joshua vs Pulev event That's my first bet since then. If Pacquiao wins via robbery then...

ironbeard wrote: ↑21 Aug 2021, 11:06

joshj909 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2021, 10:33 Ugas has to try and swarm Pac early and hope age has ruined his chin because that arm looks like it will bother him after a few rounds

I disagree. Ugas should potshot from distance for the first third of the fight and slowly turn up the pressure, IMO, not allowing Pac to clip him early. Later rounds Ugas should step it up with hard rights to Pac’s bod and then come up top with a howitzer, similar to what JMM did on the first KD in the fourth fight with his lefts to the bod.

None of it will matter if Ugas left arm is totally trashed.

I just think his arm looks a bit too odd to be ok. Up to 12 rounds with that would be tough.

There are photos of Ugas with the same lump on his bicep during previous fights. If it was any sort of injury, he wouldn't have signed to fight Maidana, much less Pacquiao. It'll be no factor.

The fact that it's in Las Vegas and Moretti & Weisfeld are the scorecard judges isn't promising.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑21 Aug 2021, 14:14 There are photos of Ugas with the same lump on his bicep during previous fights. If it was any sort of injury, he wouldn't have signed to fight Maidana, much less Pacquiao. It'll be no factor.

can u post the photos, i looked up pictures and couldnt find it in previous fights.......he couldve developed it after signing too