Gervonta Davis vs. Lamont Roach Jr. | PBC PPV - March 1, 2025

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[EdwardRevolver1993]

It wasn't a slip though.

He voluntarily took a knee. So he could fix a hair issue.

TBH, the whole thing was bizarre.

It's easy looking back and saying this or that should have happened. but in that moment, live, even the ref was probably confused and had to make a quick decision.

anyway, the WBA are considering ordering a rematch

But interestingly, the ref was actually going to start the count. He started it for a brief second. But then derailed it.

So, as boxing analyst Adam Abramowitz pointed out in his post-fight article - "at first, Steve Willis' professionalism kicked in. He knew it should've been the count".

But then he allowed the whole shitshow to happen...

[KiwiRider]

It wasn't a slip though.

He voluntarily took a knee. So he could fix a hair issue.

TBH, the whole thing was bizarre.

It's easy looking back and saying this or that should have happened. but in that moment, live, even the ref was probably confused and had to make a quick decision.

anyway, the WBA are considering ordering a rematch

But interestingly, the ref was actually going to start the count. He started it for a brief second. But then derailed it.

So, as boxing analyst Adam Abramowitz pointed out in his post-fight article - "at first, Steve Willis' professionalism kicked in. He knew it should've been the count".

But then he allowed the whole shitshow to happen...

That sounds about right.

[TheGoods]

https://www.dazn.com/en-GB/news/boxing/ ... 9865tzkvpi

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NYSAC blames 'technical issue' for Davis knee no-call, says matter under review

The New York State Athletic Commission, in a statement to ESPN, said it is "reviewing the matter" involving Saturday's Gervonta Davis-Lamont Roach WBA lightweight title fight in Brooklyn.

"Tank" Davis, one of boxing's top stars, took a knee in Round 9 following a punch that landed by Roach. Referee Steve Willis correctly started to count, but when he reached three, he stopped and didn't rule it a knockdown.

If Willis followed the rules and called a knockdown, Roach would have won via decision. Instead, the WBA junior lightweight champion settled for a draw as he attempted to become a two-weight champion in what would have represented a shocking upset. Davis (30-0-1, 28 KOs) was a prohibitive -2000 favorite, per ESPN BET.

Two judges scored the fight 114-114 while a third judge scored it 115-113 for Davis.

"During the round in question, following the commission's request for the replay video, there was a technical issue preventing the commission from receiving it within the allotted time for review," a commission spokeswoman stated. "Therefore, the referee's in-ring decision was relied upon and the fight continued.

"The commission is dedicated to preserving the integrity of combative sports and is committed to working with all promotions and production teams -- on behalf of the athletes, officials, and fans -- to ensure technical issues do not occur in the future that prevent the delivery of ringside instant replay feeds to the commission's officials when needed."

Baltimore's Davis said after the bout the reason he took a knee was because grease from a hair treatment Thursday "burned my eyes." Davis was also allowed to have his corner wipe his eyes with a towel, which is prohibited during the round. Only the referee has the authority to halt the action. This is the second major incident involving the New York commission in the last year. In April, boxing star Ryan Garcia's upset victory over Devin Haney was overturned to a no contest after he tested positive for a banned substance. The commission also suspended him for one year and fined him seven figures.

"What I'm wondering is if the commission only makes changes when you complain and cry like Haney or they actually care about the integrity of the sport!" Garcia posted Sunday on X. "Nothing against Tank but since the commission switches my victory they should switch this victory for Roach."

The bout contract included a rematch clause for Davis in the event he didn't win. The 30-year-old said Monday on X he was "pushing for the rematch" as soon as late May.

"If you take a knee and the ref starts counting, it should be a knockdown," Roach (25-1-2) said following the bout. "If that's a knockdown, I win the fight."

Washington D.C.'s Roach, 29, remains the WBA titleholder at 130 pounds. He's rated No. 5 by ESPN at junior lightweight.

Davis is ESPN's No. 1 lightweight and No. 8 pound-for-pound boxer.

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Gervonta Davis wants Lamont Roach rematch ‘soon,’ hopes for end of May

Gervonta Davis says he’ll rematch Lamont Roach by the “end of May” if he can.

Gervonta “Tank” Davis isn’t looking to take much time off if he can help it following his controversial draw with Lamont Roach.

Davis said on social media this week that “the rematch can be soon,” and specifically cited “end of May” as a possibility.

Coming into the fight, Davis (30-0-1, 28 KO) seemed like he was considering an early retirement at age 30, but now has said he’ll fight “like four more times,” and one of those will hopefully be a second go with Roach (25-1-2, 10 KO), and without the standard delay we’ve seen from Davis’ career in recent years.

Davis did have a pretty quick turnaround for a pair of fights in 2023, so he’s physically capable of performing well in that situation. He fought Hector Luis Garcia on January 7 that year, then turned around to fight Ryan Garcia on April 22, winning both fights by stoppage.

Davis vs Roach was controversial not just in the way that any draw is going to be debated and discussed, but because of a ninth round non-call by referee Steve Willis, who didn’t rule Davis voluntarily taking a knee as a knockdown.

The New York State Athletic Commission is blaming a “technical issue” for not reviewing a replay video, which is allowed in the state. There have been calls for the fight to be reevaluated and even changing it to a win for Roach, but this is unlikely. It’s not just because Davis is the star and money draw, but because had the knockdown been ruled, it’s simply impossible to tell how the fight may have changed from that point forward, or even how the rest of that round might have gone. Fighters change their approaches all the time after being knocked down, and simply ruling after the fact that it should be a 10-8 Roach round — which judges are not required to score it, by the way — seems like setting a dangerous precedent, with athletic commissions usually pretty conservative about playing with fire in that manner.

As unpopular as it may be, the draw call most likely will stand, and there is some logical reasoning for this, too.

Still, the rematch is now in-demand, far more than the original fight ever was, and the original fight did good business at the gate in Brooklyn, at the very least. Tank vs Roach 2 feels like it has to happen, or it’s a question that will too clearly and obviously haunt Davis’ career going forward, far more than conversations that he’s “ducked” this guy or that, because we actually saw this one happen and know it should really get the run-back treatment.

It may, however, be difficult for Premier Boxing Champions to turn around and spend that sort of money on another event by the end of May. I do expect we’ll see the rematch and see it this year, but within three months’ time does seem unlikely.

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Gervonta Davis wants Lamont Roach rematch ‘soon,’ hopes for end of May
The New York State Athletic Commission is blaming a “technical issue” for not reviewing a replay video, which is allowed in the state. There have been calls for the fight to be reevaluated and even changing it to a win for Roach, but this is unlikely. It’s not just because Davis is the star and money draw, but because had the knockdown been ruled, it’s simply impossible to tell how the fight may have changed from that point forward, or even how the rest of that round might have gone. Fighters change their approaches all the time after being knocked down, and simply ruling after the fact that it should be a 10-8 Roach round — which judges are not required to score it, by the way — seems like setting a dangerous precedent, with athletic commissions usually pretty conservative about playing with fire in that manner.

It isn't a question of whether the judges would have been "required" to score that round 10-8 -- they just would have. Taking a knee is literally volunteering to lose that point.
And it isn't a dangerous precedent to get a basic call right. A much worse precedent is "you can actually go just take a knee, get up and go visit your corner, get a little pause in the action, and it won't affect the scoring of the round at all."

[The Great John L]

And it isn't a dangerous precedent to get a basic call right. A much worse precedent is "you can actually go just take a knee, get up and go visit your corner, get a little pause in the action, and it won't affect the scoring of the round at all."

And even more questionable is the fact that the commission had time to review this and still blew it. My guess is that when another fighter tries the same thing it will be correctly called a KD.

I had no problem with the draw, except for the 9th round antics. And while I've never particularly had an opinion about Tank's personality, his post fight comments about his hair were sickening. I suspect that once someone really puts some hurt on him, he'll be looking for a way out.

Anyone else like to see Shakur smack this guy around and make him quit?

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And it isn't a dangerous precedent to get a basic call right. A much worse precedent is "you can actually go just take a knee, get up and go visit your corner, get a little pause in the action, and it won't affect the scoring of the round at all."

And even more questionable is the fact that the commission had time to review this and still blew it. My guess is that when another fighter tries the same thing it will be correctly called a KD.

I had no problem with the draw, except for the 9th round antics. And while I've never particularly had an opinion about Tank's personality, his post fight comments about his hair were sickening. I suspect that once someone really puts some hurt on him, he'll be looking for a way out.

Anyone else like to see Shakur smack this guy around and make him quit?

Was Davis winning that round? they give him the 10-9?

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one judge gave rd 9 to Roach, he had it a draw

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I thought Russell put in a near flawless performance against Valenzuela, set an insane tempo and maintained it for 12 rounds, good fast jab, put punches together as well as landing the some eye catching single shots, great variation, led and countered beautifully, Valenzuela could never get in the fight, anything he did land was countered with something better, by the later rounds Russell was hurting him as well, just a great display by Russell where it all came together

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Lamont Roach camp appeals the Gervonta Davis draw, matter seems bound for rematch

As the New York State Athletic Commission continues to review referee Steve Wilis’ errant handling of Lamont Roach’s Saturday night knockdown of Gervonta Davis, a compelling ProBox TV panel discussion assessed the matter Wednesday.

“If they do one thing, Lamont Roach wins the fight,” said Dan Rafael, the veteran boxing writer now distributing his Fight Freaks Unite! Substack. “That bad night [by Willis] cost Lamont Roach a championship, [deprived him of] hanging the first loss on America’s top fighter … a lot of stuff went bad, and it was all against Lamont Roach.”

In speaking to regulators across the country Wednesday, they say New York commission head Matthew Delaglio is in a tough bind trying to resolve the “human error” that saw Willis start and then stop his eight-count of Davis after receiving multiple punches from Roach, which prompted Davis to take a knee and then walk to his corner, where co-trainer Calvin Ford was there to meet him and wipe his face with a towel.

Davis later explained he felt the sting of a hair chemical in his eye and was merely seeking relief.

While some feel Delaglio should deduct a point from Davis for any of his transgressions and make Roach the new WBA lightweight champion after fighting to Saturday night’s majority draw, others say that’s not fair to Davis, a knockout puncher who might’ve shifted into a more desperate, offensive mindset in the final three rounds had he known he had been docked with a knockdown.

The panel, including retired California referee Jack Reiss, trainer Stephen “Breadman” Edwards, Rafael and ProBox TV regulars Chris Algieri and Paulie Malignaggi, were in unison that Roach’s bended knee met the definition of a knockdown.

ProBox TV founder Garry Jonas, who advises Roach, filed an official appeal letter to the New York commission, asking that it rule Roach the winner based on the multiple opportunities Willis had to deduct a point from Davis: the knockdown, turning his back to Roach and walking to his corner, and Ford walking up the steps to treat him mid-round.

Edwards provided a telling point.

“People make mistakes, but this always happens to favor the ‘A’ side,” Edwards said. “Steve Willis has an excellent career. This moment just shocked him.”

Referee Reiss sought to explain that officials have leeway as the bout’s “sole arbiter” to exercise discretion over how the fight proceeds.

“You cannot call your own timeout,” Malignaggi responded.

Rafael also reported there was an opportunity to review the replay of the knockdown, but it didn’t happen.

That inspired Algieri and Malignaggi to conclude there’s only one effective way to respond: Stage an immediate rematch right back at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

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kinda a weird rando insult thhat makes turki look goofy

willis f@cked up but he's usually good

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Case closed.

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NYSAC RULES THAT GERVONTA DAVIS VS. LAMONT ROACH OUTCOME WILL STAND

The Ring has been advised that the New York State Athletic Commission has upheld the outcome of the recent lightweight bout between Gervonta Davis and Lamont Roach, which took place last Saturday night at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

“Since the bout continued for more than 3 full rounds after the referee's no knockdown call, and because the boxers necessarily adjusted to the referee's ruling, the referee's call was not outcome-determinative.”

During the ninth round, Davis seemingly turned away from Roach and took a knee to signal a timeout to his corner. Davis' handlers went up to the corner to wipe his face. Davis would later explain that grease was placed in his hair and began to drip into his eyes during the action. The referee, Steve Willis, made a decision to not rule it as a knockdown, which led to the contest ending in a controversial draw.

Receiving assistance from a corner man without a referee’s permission is grounds for a disqualification, though taking that action is discretionary. Willis was widely criticized for completely mishandling the situation, but the NYSAC also came under scrutiny for failing to properly utilize instant replay.

Had the abovementioned knockdown counted, Roach would’ve won at least a split decision, depending upon how the judges could’ve scored the ninth round. Without the knockdown, judge Eric Marlinski scored Davis a 115-113 winner, whereas judges Glenn Feldman and Steve Weisfeld scored Davis-Roach a draw, 114-114 apiece.

The left-handed Davis entered the ring a 16-1 favorite over Roach, an amateur rival who moved up from the 130-pound division to challenge Davis in a Premier Boxing Champions/Amazon Prime Video pay-per-view main event.

Matt Delaglio, executive director for the NYSAC, told The Ring on Wednesday that replay wasn’t used after the ninth round because the feed from the production truck didn’t reach the monitor on the replay official’s table in time to review the situation before the 10th round began. Delaglio also explained that only the assigned referee in the ring and replay official at ringside can call for an instant replay once a round concludes.

“Since the bout continued for more than three full rounds after the referee’s no knockdown call,” the NYSAC stated in its explanation Friday, “and because the boxers necessarily adjusted to the referee’s ruling, the referee’s call was not outcome-determinative.”

Roach (25-1-2, 10 KOs), of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, is contractually obliged to an immediate rematch, assuming Baltimore’s Davis (31-0-1, 28 KOs) exercises that right. Terms of their contracts have not been revealed publicly, thus it is not known exactly how the official result – a majority draw as opposed to a points win – would affect Roach’s purse for their second fight for Davis’ WBA 135-pound championship.

News of the NYSAC’s ruling to uphold the Davis-Roach result was first reported Friday night by BS.com. ProBox’s Garry Jonas owns BS and served as Roach’s promotional representative for the WBA super featherweight champion’s fight with Davis.

TBG Promotions, which is aligned with Al Haymon’s PBC, is Roach’s promoter of record because it has a contractual option on Roach’s next fight.

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"The rounds could have gone differently" is exactly the kind of problem you solve by having them run it back. We'll see who can fight differently.
But the thing Team Roach can say back is, "a rematch is good, but it doesn't solve the real problem at all. Taking a knee is still a knockdown. Our guy still got a knockdown taken away from him in a really close fight."
And there isn't really a good answer to that. Basically what they're saying is just so much, "hey, tough shit."

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[amwsnw]

Of course rounds 10,11,12 could’ve been different. An earthquake could’ve hit and haltered the fight! What we do know did occur is the ref got it wrong and it impacted the final score cards.

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Of course rounds 10,11,12 could’ve been different. An earthquake could’ve hit and haltered the fight! What we do know did occur is the ref got it wrong and it impacted the final score cards.

Yh maybe if a count had been given, maybe even Davis would have had more urgency know he’d have lost the round 10-8..

This could have then prompted Roach to go broke, he it could have been a very entertaining last 3 rounds. But we’ll never know

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There was a reason why Tank didn't fight Teo, Loma, Haney,etc back in the day. His most notable win to date is against a
severely drained Garcia.

Lamont has Tank's number and I'd not be surprised to see a cash in fight vs Loma or Lopez. Lamont looked strong, composed and not shy to let his hands go. Strong chin too.

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His team recently have contacted Top Rank for that Loma fight haha