Marvin Hagler KO3 Roy Jones

[granberry]

Ali lost a relatively close decision to Frazier

The walking army of the Ali Industry strikes again.

Frazier knocked Ali FLAT ON HIS BACK.

Frazier clobbered Ali by a lopsided margin.

Members of the Ali Industry LIE.

They have to in order to sell their product.

Good work Terrence.

Keep marching in step with your fellow zombies.

I actually think Ali is mythicalised (not a word? It is now) and overrated.

I scored the fight by 4 points to Frazier. 9-6 in rounds. Joe took it by 1/3 in a sense so it was relatively close. One more round either way and it becomes dominant or closer.

For example 115-113 is a close but fair margin. 116-112 is closer to a dominant one and 117-111 means you take it by taking 2/3. That is 1/3 more than the other could possibly get.

What you have done is judged me on the few posts I make here and decided my entire scope and inclination of fighters. Unfortunately I think objectively and it is confusing for guys like yourself.

Going against the grain can be a sign of clear thinking, if your reasons are clear. Doing it for the sake of it is a sign that you need to get out more

Hiding from the fact that Joe Frazier knocked Ali FLAT ON HIS BACK and beat Ali thoroughly

is the NUMBER ONE action of the Ali Industry.

When you go out of your way to regurgitate that mantra on a thread that isn't even about Ali,

it is obvious you are member of the walking army of the Ali industry.

[granberry]

I actually think Ali is mythicalised (not a word? It is now) and overrated.

I scored the fight by 4 points to Frazier. 9-6 in rounds. Joe took it by 1/3 in a sense so it was relatively close. One more round either way and it becomes dominant or closer.

For example 115-113 is a close but fair margin. 116-112 is closer to a dominant one and 117-111 means you take it by taking 2/3. That is 1/3 more than the other could possibly get.

What you have done is judged me on the few posts I make here and decided my entire scope and inclination of fighters. Unfortunately I think objectively and it is confusing for guys like yourself.

Going against the grain can be a sign of clear thinking, if your reasons are clear. Doing it for the sake of it is a sign that you need to get out more

Hiding from the fact that Joe Frazier knocked Ali FLAT ON HIS BACK and beat Ali thoroughly

is the NUMBER ONE action of the Ali Industry.

When you go out of your way to regurgitate that mantra on a thread that isn't even about Ali,

it is obvious you are member of the walking army of the Ali industry.

9-6 in rounds + Frazier a 4-point winner = Counting the KD.

If I am going to teach you a broad spectrum of subjects I suggest you pay me some kind of fee.

You have taught me that you are member of the walking army of the Ali industry.

Your kind are a dime a dozen.

The only thing you "teach" is that there are an unlimited amount of mindless clones stumbling around out there who regurgitate tired talking points and then grin and consider themselves "intelligent" for their pathetic parroting of easily recognizable PR lines.

[Senya13]

Glen Johnson was ranked #4 by the Ring magazine at the time of the fight with Jones, but it's my strong belief that Zsolt Erdei's #3 placement was complete bullshit, he just received a gift decision in a fight he clearly lost vs Hugo Hernan Garay and they put him at #3?
The 175lb rating should have looked like this:
#1 Antonio Tarver
#2 Roy Jones Jr
#3 Glen Johnson

Fighting Tarver immediately for the 3rd time was considered to be not very good move from financial point of view, as the spectators would hardly pay for 3rd ppv in a row between them, after Jones didn't win spectacularly in the 1st fight and after 2nd fight they really started to talk he's past it and should retire. The negotiations broke down, and Jones desided to delay rubber match until December, but in order not to stay inactive for half a year, he chose to fight the next best light heavyweight in Glen Johnson.
He didn't see him as a easy opponent, from the statements he made at the press conference:

Roy what about your decision to fight a champion on your first fight back (from the first loss)?
I want to fight a champion. I need a challenge. I don’t want to fight someone everybody knows I’m gonna beat.

Did you approach the Johnson camp for this fight?
Yeah, I wanted the fight. I said Ok, if Tarver don’t want to come and talk to me right now I’ll go fight Glengoffe Johnson. I want to fight another champion. He’s got one of my belts. Most people don’t know about Glen Johnson. I do. I know he’s good. He fought Clinton Woods twice and won the title. Clinton Woods doesn’t go down easy.

People don't know about Glen Johnson because he was a late bloomer. But then again, people didn't think Tarver had much of a chance either. Johnson's older, which means he has more experience. He's also smart and he's got good power. I don't know what kind of punch he can take - but it better be a good one.

and in the training camp:

"His major strengths are experience and power," Jones noted. "Johnson is a very strong puncher -- very durable. He will be coming at me the whole fight… he will be coming all night. He is just entering his prime at 35 -- a lot of cats do that. I feel he is fighting the best of his career right now."

In all, Jones was coming off a devastating loss to meet one of the two best light heavyweights in the world beside himself, slightly over 4 months after KO loss, against a very tough and experienced fighter.