davie wrote:forcefraser wrote:
Mate, if Scotland were playing England in a World Cup knockout match (very unlikley I know) and I walked into a pub in Glasgow filled with Scottish fans, wearing an England shirt and then started laughing and cheering when Scotland lost the penalty shoot out, do think the Scottish fans would have been queueing up to buy my a beer?
Argentina were a big "rival" team at that time and the bloke got what he deserved.
I used to support any home nation team in sport, but after putting up with the Anyone but England bullshit, always from the Scots (rarely the Welsh or Northern Irish) I take pleasure in watching Scotland fail time and time again.
I wouldn`t support them against any other team to be honest. As I`ve said, many of best mates are Scottish. Top lads all of them.
When it comes to boxing it`s a different story. I support many Scottish fighters and like to see them all do well. Ricky Burns is a class act both in and out of the ring. A genuinely good guy.
I think football brings out the hatred in many people
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bad example, i wouldn't watch a football match in a pub in glasgow....period.
i never got the time to respond fully to this earlier, so i made a snide dig at the weegies (seriously...worse than the english

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you're first statement about the penalty shootout. not only is it impossible because we never qualify for anything, but because it would require england to actually win a penalty shoot out
see what i did there? quality banter!
If you walked into my local boozer in Carron (somewhere in the middle of glasgow, edinburgh and stirling) wearing an england top, during a scotland vs england game, i genuinely believe you would be welcomed in and suitably abused, in a friendly manner of course.
it goes with out saying that there are many boozers across the country where this would not be tolerated, but that is the case north and south of the border....and apparently in norway, for some strange reason. everywhere has pubs where you may not be welcome for a variety of reasons, i tend to try and avoid frequenting such shitholes.
i'm assuming the "he got what he deserved" statement implies the lad got a hiding. in which case, that is not acceptable for taking the piss out of someones football team and
if you took part in that and think it's acceptable, that, in my book, makes you a thug. (england fans living up to their stereotyped reputation?).
you also say you got fed up with the A.B.E bullshit so you decided to..........join in!
thats a good way to object to an idea, copy it and start your own wee A.B.S club
as it happens i applaud you.
i don't want the english supporting us and we shouldn't support them. but it doesn't have to be nasty, it doesn't have to be about hatred or bitterness.
it's rivalry, it makes football more fun. we clearly both know numerous people from the other side of the border and can still get on with them. taking the piss out of each others football team doesn't stop that. rugby fans have a more civilised version of that rivalry, but they still don't want to see their rivals win. no one gives them any stick
too big a deal is made of the A.B.E thing. it's just one team wishing their rivals to fail. if i was an england fan, i'd see it for what it is. jocks with no team of their own to support in a tournament so they pick 4 of their own....the ones england play up until their inevitable second round penalty defeat. then we get something to celebrate.
as for football bringing out the nasty side in people. i couldn't agree more and scotland has one of the worst problems regarding this when it comes to biggotry and sectarianism.
but don't think boxing i squeeky clean. many a boxing crowd turns into a brawl. and i wouldn't be surprized if the mitchel vs burns fight becomes an ugly example of that
as for the rest of this thread.........it's turned into a bit of a carcrash really!