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coneye wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 20:19 Frampton looked good early , got tired and went into bad habits , which looking at it were all feet related , he went square on , was off balance especielly when he got the knock down ,, Whats behind it , my opinion is PADS , don't get me wrong i'm a firm beliver in lots of pads , but pads should be moving , stand in fornt with your pads open encourging a 4 punch hard combination is great looks good , makes the trainer feel good , boxer can think Yey i nailed it ,, but truth is they may has well hit the bag .

And especielly when the trainer is a bigger man and can absorb the blows , then its a set 4 , trainer moves and another set 3 or 4 ,, except in a fight it don't happen the opponent is moving and does'nt stand still , I watched Frampton and Jamie on pads , Thats where Frampton is learning to square up and lose his footwork , padwork with a smaller guy who is contiually moving , forward , backward and sideward , in out side to side , with jamie calling whats needed from the side is more the way to go ,,,

Suppose lots will disagree , but after 50 odd years of being involved in boxing i believe pads are the best tool available to a trainer , but only if used CORRECTLY

paddy chavez wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 19:48

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 19:44

paddy chavez wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 19:41 I think a lot of modern fighters that use weight training have bad stamina like frampton ,Kell brook and canelo ...

Yeah. Weight training isn't beneficial to the kind of muscle needed to be effective at Boxing.

Look at Floyd Vs McGregor McGregor had nothing after 5/6 RDS to ripped isn't good for the stamina

Taansend wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 23:33

paddy chavez wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 19:48

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 19:44

Yeah. Weight training isn't beneficial to the kind of muscle needed to be effective at Boxing.

Look at Floyd Vs McGregor McGregor had nothing after 5/6 RDS to ripped isn't good for the stamina

That used to be the way of thinking for years but Holyfield changed a lot of peoples minds

coneye wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 23:47

Taansend wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 23:33

paddy chavez wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 19:48
Look at Floyd Vs McGregor McGregor had nothing after 5/6 RDS to ripped isn't good for the stamina

That used to be the way of thinking for years but Holyfield changed a lot of peoples minds

Holyfield was a freak . some fighters can just do it , he built himself up ,, yet others were freakish in how they stripped down , perhaps the one for me who stands out in that regard would be Jeff Fenech , the weight that guy could strip off and still retain his strenght was nothing short of freakish

Taansend wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 00:31

coneye wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 23:47

Taansend wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 23:33

That used to be the way of thinking for years but Holyfield changed a lot of peoples minds

Holyfield was a freak . some fighters can just do it , he built himself up ,, yet others were freakish in how they stripped down , perhaps the one for me who stands out in that regard would be Jeff Fenech , the weight that guy could strip off and still retain his strenght was nothing short of freakish

Aaah, my old mate Jeff who once called me "an unwashed Pommie c*nt"

coneye wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 02:22

Taansend wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 00:31

coneye wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 23:47

Holyfield was a freak . some fighters can just do it , he built himself up ,, yet others were freakish in how they stripped down , perhaps the one for me who stands out in that regard would be Jeff Fenech , the weight that guy could strip off and still retain his strenght was nothing short of freakish

Aaah, my old mate Jeff who once called me "an unwashed Pommie c*nt"

So he had a wonderful way with words then

rossij8 wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 19:37 Bit wide for me, could have been a draw

KiwiRider wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 04:10

rossij8 wrote: ↑18 Nov 2017, 19:37 Bit wide for me, could have been a draw

Yep. Even though the knockdown was a slip, you still have to score it a 10/8 and with that I had it a draw