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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:26
by skanksta
Saying that - you two are moaning !
I had Kelly winning the first 4 and doing enough in the last 6.
Hard to see how that was a gift ? Or a bad draw ?
Close hard fight. Kelly blew a lead, Ray didn't do quite enough...
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:27
by Rob3_142
Exoddus wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:22
Kelly gifted a draw. He lost that fight.
Not gifted. Was a tight fight of very limited clean hitting. Hope it's a wake up call to his style/approach.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:27
by oogiebe
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:26
He just struts around like a tit, it’s not good to watch at all IMO, Robinson won that fight.
Absolutely. It was painful to watch Kelly.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:27
by 3132DW
skanksta wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:24
I thought Kelly nicked it.
All 3 judges had it close - don't think anyone is gonna be moaning about that dec.
Are we being hard on Kelly ?
That's not a bad result/performance for his first real test away from home.
As long as he learns and improves, only his 9th fight etc...
I would have had Kelly nicking it as well by 1 - he started bright then faded and made it a scrap with brought Robinson into the fight.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:27
by gilgamesh
What's up next on the card?
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:27
by oogiebe
Here's to hoping Booth does a better job with Joyce.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:28
by Rob3_142
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:27
What's up next on the card?
Katie Taylor next up
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:29
by Covfefe
If you can’t put fighters away that style is always going to be a struggle.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:29
by Exoddus
I'm not moaning. I backed the draw at 28/1 on bet365 in play at the start of round 7.

Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:29
by Nightmare Roy
He’ll get mullered of the top boys playing that game.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:29
by skanksta
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:27
What's up next on the card?
KT
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:30
by overhand_right
oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:25
Except RJJ threw punches and could KO you. That was frustrating. The fight as well as the decision.
Yeah, Roy originated the style so it was natural to him. It also worked because, as you say, he could KO you.
Kelly's borrowing his style, which is why it doesn't work and he's eating punches, and he doesn't hit hard enough to contain decent opponents.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:30
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:30
by Ruthless-RKO
overhand_right wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:30
Yeah, Roy originated the style so it was natural to him. It also worked because, as you say, he could KO you.
Kelly's borrowing his style, which is why it doesn't work and he's eating punches, and he doesn't hit hard enough to contain decent opponents.
Exactly. RJJ built that style around him KO'ing boxers.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:31
by 3132DW
oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:27
Here's to hoping Booth does a better job with Joyce.
Joyce will always lumber forward - he’ll move a bit more but his style and age he won’t change much now at this stage.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:31
by oogiebe
overhand_right wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:30
Yeah, Roy originated the style so it was natural to him. It also worked because, as you say, he could KO you.
Kelly's borrowing his style, which is why it doesn't work and he's eating punches, and he doesn't hit hard enough to contain decent opponents.
"All show" and "no go" never won any championships, unless you're Tyson Fury!
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:32
by oogiebe
3132DW wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:31
Joyce will always lumber forward - he’ll move a bit more but his style and age he won’t change much now at this stage.
It's his defense I'm hoping to see improvement on. He should adopt the Norton cross arms. Easy to do and would do him a lot of good as he steps up.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:32
by 3132DW
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:30
Exactly. RJJ built that style around him KO'ing boxers.
As Kelly’s moved up levels he’s not even looking like hurting the opponent - he’s got speed but KO power once above Domestic isn’t there at present.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:32
by Flump
I sense we are about to have Adam Smith's witless drivel ruin the action....
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:33
by 3132DW
Flump wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:32
I sense we are about to have Adam Smith's witless drivel ruin the action....
Yip - Him & Froch id suspect.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:33
by skanksta
Kelly vs Robinson rematch anyone ?
Over 12 ?
Would be good for both.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:35
by Covfefe
skanksta wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:33
Kelly vs Robinson rematch anyone ?
Over 12 ?
Would be good for both.
Don’t know, it wasn’t particularly exciting.
I think stepping him back a little wouldn’t hurt. No need to rush him, maybe in two or three fights.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:36
by oogiebe
skanksta wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 20:33
Kelly vs Robinson rematch anyone ?
Over 12 ?
Would be good for both.
I couldn't bare to watch that again. Kelly needs to get some offense. That bit will never do at the next level. He'd get blathered.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:37
by overhand_right
Oof, what's Claudia's accent? That was grating.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 20:38
by skanksta
Froch is so rubbish.
Paul Smith is great, Paulie is the best, Andy Lee has a calm authority, Bellew is passionate.
KT is great.
Unifying will be a fine achievement, but Undisputed in the Women's is only equivalent to being an alphabet champ in the mens - if that.