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Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 04:35 This fight should not be sanctioned. Wallin hasn't ever even fought ayone ranked as high as #200 before. Where does Boxrec get off ranking him #47? I see many below him with much better credentials.

Although I am not enthused by this match up, I think you are overexagerating quite a bit.

PBO are seen as a fairly accurate non-affiliated rating group:

Wallin is ranked #25 by PBO. Adrian Grant was ranked #26 when Wallin beat him for a Euro title.

To put that into some perspective, Washington - who some people would prefer - is at his highest ever ranking of #21 atm. When he fought for the WBC title he was ranked #32 by PBO.

But it is what it is, Wallin is an unbeaten euro level opponent in a keep busy fight. Fury is on for 3 - 4 fights within a calendar year.

When the WBC Champion was defending his title 2-3 times a year, he wasn't really facing top 25 fighters either.

Again I'm not particularly excited about the fight, but as others have said, Fury is fighting regularly and really who was available that was an appropriate opponent?

Young, big, euro-belt holder, 20-0 = ticks a lot of boxes

Fury is fighting twice this year.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 08:33 Fury is fighting twice this year.

Ah yeah, you are right, I used calendar year incorrectly

I meant 365 days

Finkel wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 09:10

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 08:33 Fury is fighting twice this year.

Ah yeah, you are right, I used calendar year incorrectly

I meant 365 days

Is that overly active? Id guess Most guys are close to that schedule when you start it on a fight night.

Finkel wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 09:10

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 08:33 Fury is fighting twice this year.

Ah yeah, you are right, I used calendar year incorrectly

I meant 365 days

He’s fighting again in December. In the UK.

He’s following last year’s pattern.

June - August - December
June - September - December

Furys side dont want a Wilder rematch and its clear as day when you see them keep pushing the date back. They managed to snag the same 10m+ money for stiffs , so why fight the guy who can take his head off? Fury landed the jackpot and Im not sure there is any intent to rematch.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 10:10 Furys side dont want a Wilder rematch and its clear as day when you see them keep pushing the date back. They managed to snag the same 10m+ money for stiffs , so why fight the guy who can take his head off? Fury landed the jackpot and Im not sure there is any intent to rematch.

They are milking and hyping it.

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 09:49

Finkel wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 09:10

Ah yeah, you are right, I used calendar year incorrectly

I meant 365 days

He’s fighting again in December. In the UK.

He’s following last year’s pattern.

June - August - December
June - September - December

I hadn't seen that.

Paci wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 10:31

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 10:10 Furys side dont want a Wilder rematch and its clear as day when you see them keep pushing the date back. They managed to snag the same 10m+ money for stiffs , so why fight the guy who can take his head off? Fury landed the jackpot and Im not sure there is any intent to rematch.

They are milking and hyping it.

Hyping it? Fury beating a bunch of domestic level heavyweights won’t hype nothing. Anyone with half a brain cell won’t be duped by wearing silly hats and dancing during his walk out bollocks

The linearal clown of boxing is making great cash getting some rounds in with unbeaten no hopers. Nice very low risk business strategy.

How much money is in a rematch anyway? The first fight did 325k, not 1m. IMO it's been overhyped as some smashing success/huge event. Spence-Garcia, Pac-Broner did significantly more.

I mean, if Fury is making like 12m-15m for cans, I can see why the rematch seemingly gets further and further in the distance

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Aug 2019, 13:11 How much money is in a rematch anyway? The first fight did 325k, not 1m. IMO it's been overhyped as some smashing success/huge event. Spence-Garcia, Pac-Broner did significantly more.

I mean, if Fury is making like 12m-15m for cans, I can see why the rematch seemingly gets further and further in the distance

Predominantly because the cans are on ESPN's dime and arum knows he'll lose money on that fight.

Fury will Hammer this kid.
Underhand pitch of a fight

Are ESPN going to keep paying Fury for this and the German bloke?
There has to be a cut off point for them, as I can't see them making any money, if not losing money.
The rest of the card is bollocks from what I've seen too. It's all so pointless

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Aug 2019, 01:30 Are ESPN going to keep paying Fury for this and the German bloke?
There has to be a cut off point for them, as I can't see them making any money, if not losing money.
The rest of the card is bollocks from what I've seen too. It's all so pointless

Navarrete is on the card..

ESPN probably think they will make some money back when they do a joint PPV with Showtime for Fury-Wilder II

Undercard Information

In a 10-round super lightweight special attraction, former two-weight world champion Jose “Sniper” Pedraza will fight two-time world title challenger Jose “Chon” Zepeda.

In other action on the ESPN+ undercard stream:

Former longtime WBC super flyweight world champion Carlos Cuadras (38-3-1, 27 KOs) will take on Jose Maria Cardenas (17-4, 14 KOs) in a 10-round super flyweight clash. Cardenas is coming off a stunning first-round knockout over then-unbeaten 2016 U.S. Olympian Antonio Vargas. Cuadras has won two in a row since a majority decision defeat to McWilliams Arroyo.

Light heavyweight contender Felix “Mangu” Valera (18-2, 15 KOs) will face former world title challenger Vyacheslav Shabranskyy (20-2, 17 KOs) in a 10-round bout that will propel the winner into the world title picture.

Tyson Fury stablemate Isaac Lowe (18-0-3, 6 KOs) will face veteran Luis Coria (12-2, 7 KOs) in a 10-rounder at super featherweight. Lowe last fought on the Fury-Tom Schwarz undercard in Las Vegas, where he bested Duarn Vue via unanimous decision.

Gabriel Flores Jr. (14-0, 6 KOs), the 19-year-old sensation from Stockton, California, will face Mexican veteran Miguel Angel Aispuro (11-8-2, 7 KOs) in an eight-round lightweight contest.
Isidro Ochoa (7-0, 3 KOs) will clash with fellow unbeaten Iskander Kharsan (6-0, 5 KOs) in an eight-round super bantamweight fight.

Heavyweight prospect Guido “The Gladiator” Vianello (4-0, 4 KOs), who represented his native Italy at the 2016 Rio Olympics, will face Cassius Anderson (7-1, 3 KOs) in a six-rounder. Vianello’s four pro fights have lasted a total of six rounds.

Promoted by Top Rank, in association with allegedly’s Queensberry Promotions and Salita Promotions, tickets for Fury vs. Wallin priced at $606, $456, $306, $206 and $106 (not including applicable fees) are on sale now. Tickets are also available for purchase online at www.axs.com or by phone at 888-929-7849.

that undercard doesn't compel me to spend time or money on this card.

Booky odds only 16-1, not the 100-1 or 1,000-1 I would have expected.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Aug 2019, 22:26 Booky odds only 16-1, not the 100-1 or 1,000-1 I would have expected.

You are never going to see odds like that in a two horse race.

Last night I had a dream, where Fury fought someone, I don't remember who exactly, but it was either Wilder or Joshua, or Ruiz, or Wallin. And in this fight Fury suffered a bad swelling early and lost by RTD after the 2nd round.

DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Sep 2019, 06:04 Last night I had a dream, where Fury fought someone, I don't remember who exactly, but it was either Wilder or Joshua, or Ruiz, or Wallin. And in this fight Fury suffered a bad swelling early and lost by RTD after the 2nd round.

What was the object that swelled so quickly?