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big lennox wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 08:14 And just like Kayser Soze, Fury was gone.

The greatest trick that Fury ever pulled, was convincing the world he’d fight Usyk.

jwfg wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023, 17:15

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023, 16:18 How about this for preparing to back out of the Uysk fight speak from Fury's team:

Todd deBouef: " I haven't felt any of the parties involved, that were ready to do this in December, going in a different direction other than going forward.

Now we are just trying to fine tune some of this, the date and everything like that. I think there's a promise, there's a glimmer of hope out there, a big glimmer, that this will hopefully come to fruition".

That's quite a different tone from pre Ngannou fight.

My guess is that since Fury got turned over by Ngannou, they know for certain now that Uysk would smoke Fury.

Fury is done.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 10:24

jwfg wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023, 17:15

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023, 16:18 How about this for preparing to back out of the Uysk fight speak from Fury's team:

Todd deBouef: " I haven't felt any of the parties involved, that were ready to do this in December, going in a different direction other than going forward.

Now we are just trying to fine tune some of this, the date and everything like that. I think there's a promise, there's a glimmer of hope out there, a big glimmer, that this will hopefully come to fruition".

That's quite a different tone from pre Ngannou fight.

My guess is that since Fury got turned over by Ngannou, they know for certain now that Uysk would smoke Fury.

Fury is done.

What a shame for Joshua that he didn’t have the cojones to get in the ring with him.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 10:24

jwfg wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023, 17:15

big lennox wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023, 16:18 How about this for preparing to back out of the Uysk fight speak from Fury's team:

Todd deBouef: " I haven't felt any of the parties involved, that were ready to do this in December, going in a different direction other than going forward.

Now we are just trying to fine tune some of this, the date and everything like that. I think there's a promise, there's a glimmer of hope out there, a big glimmer, that this will hopefully come to fruition".

That's quite a different tone from pre Ngannou fight.

My guess is that since Fury got turned over by Ngannou, they know for certain now that Uysk would smoke Fury.

Fury is done.

What a shame for Joshua that he didn’t have the cojones to get in the ring with him.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 12:47

BigDoofus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 10:24

jwfg wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023, 17:15

Fury is done.

What a shame for Joshua that he didn’t have the cojones to get in the ring with him.

Lucky for Fury he didn't eh? Can you Imagine what would have happened.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 12:47

BigDoofus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 10:24

jwfg wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023, 17:15

Fury is done.

What a shame for Joshua that he didn’t have the cojones to get in the ring with him.

Lucky for Fury he didn't eh? Can you Imagine what would have happened.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 17:07

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 12:47

BigDoofus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 10:24

What a shame for Joshua that he didn’t have the cojones to get in the ring with him.

Lucky for Fury he didn't eh? Can you Imagine what would have happened.

Can you imagine what would have happened if he fought Wilder in the past 8 years?

jwfg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 05:57

tonyevs wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 04:21

1328613 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023, 19:25

Don’t be silly. Usyk needs to get Fury’s scalp to get full credit as the best heavyweight of the generation.

Yes I agree - Usyk needs to beat Fury before someone else does next and the undisputed gets even further away.

fWank will no doubt be panicking about how much longer the WBC allow Fury to stall before they strip him, or who fWank can get to take the title off him to have some longevity at the top table.

It's not just Fury's days at the top table coming to an end, fWank's days are too. He thought he had a solid prospect in Dubois to keep him there - but Dubois turned out to be very very fragile and not going anywhere.
Fury will be stalling to line up another Netflix series - fWank will be stalling to sign up another prospect ..

For me, the four belts are irrelevant. The winner of Usyk-Fury is the man regardless of which belts are on the line.

Finkel wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 21:00

jwfg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 05:57

tonyevs wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 04:21

Yes I agree - Usyk needs to beat Fury before someone else does next and the undisputed gets even further away.

fWank will no doubt be panicking about how much longer the WBC allow Fury to stall before they strip him, or who fWank can get to take the title off him to have some longevity at the top table.

It's not just Fury's days at the top table coming to an end, fWank's days are too. He thought he had a solid prospect in Dubois to keep him there - but Dubois turned out to be very very fragile and not going anywhere.
Fury will be stalling to line up another Netflix series - fWank will be stalling to sign up another prospect ..

For me, the four belts are irrelevant. The winner of Usyk-Fury is the man regardless of which belts are on the line.

I don't think that's the case anymore though.

IF they had stuck with the idea that Ngannou was an exhibition. Then fine, whatever. But they pushed and pushed that this was a real fight, even going so far as to get Frank calling in favours with the BBBoC to sanction it. So people are going to judge it as such. In which case Fury was made to look bad, really bad, by a guy on his debut.

Fury can't claim to be top 2 after that shit show.

Usyk is the champ.
And it's Zhang who is the #1 contender at this point.
You could switch in Hrgovic if you wanted (depending on who you think won their fight)

Usyk v Fury is still necessary, though. But it is more Lewis v Briggs than Holyfiled 2. Everyone already knew Lewis was the man, beating the Lineal Champion Briggs was just the tying up of lose ends. People just want to see an undisputed champion, I get that, but it's not #1 v #2 anymore

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 05:44

Finkel wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 21:00

jwfg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 05:57

For me, the four belts are irrelevant. The winner of Usyk-Fury is the man regardless of which belts are on the line.

I don't think that's the case anymore though.

IF they had stuck with the idea that Ngannou was an exhibition. Then fine, whatever. But they pushed and pushed that this was a real fight, even going so far as to get Frank calling in favours with the BBBoC to sanction it. So people are going to judge it as such. In which case Fury was made to look bad, really bad, by a guy on his debut.

Fury can't claim to be top 2 after that shit show.

Usyk is the champ.
And it's Zhang who is the #1 contender at this point.
You could switch in Hrgovic if you wanted (depending on who you think won their fight)

Usyk v Fury is still necessary, though. But it is more Lewis v Briggs than Holyfiled 2. Everyone already knew Lewis was the man, beating the Lineal Champion Briggs was just the tying up of lose ends. People just want to see an undisputed champion, I get that, but it's not #1 v #2 anymore

This is a bit daft.

polecateddy wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 09:30 Yes presumably the promoter and Fury calculation will be can we get away with another cash grab or is the bubble burst with the Saudis if they don’t get Usyk v Fury?

dan28uk wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 07:33 i think you're starting to see the effects of father time and 3 x fights with wilder the fights

polecateddy wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 09:30 Yes presumably the promoter and Fury calculation will be can we get away with another cash grab or is the bubble burst with the Saudis if they don’t get Usyk v Fury?

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 05:44

Finkel wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 21:00

jwfg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 05:57

For me, the four belts are irrelevant. The winner of Usyk-Fury is the man regardless of which belts are on the line.

I don't think that's the case anymore though.

IF they had stuck with the idea that Ngannou was an exhibition. Then fine, whatever. But they pushed and pushed that this was a real fight, even going so far as to get Frank calling in favours with the BBBoC to sanction it. So people are going to judge it as such. In which case Fury was made to look bad, really bad, by a guy on his debut.

Fury can't claim to be top 2 after that shit show.

Usyk is the champ.
And it's Zhang who is the #1 contender at this point.
You could switch in Hrgovic if you wanted (depending on who you think won their fight)

Usyk v Fury is still necessary, though. But it is more Lewis v Briggs than Holyfiled 2. Everyone already knew Lewis was the man, beating the Lineal Champion Briggs was just the tying up of lose ends. People just want to see an undisputed champion, I get that, but it's not #1 v #2 anymore

This is a bit daft.

Finkel wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 18:25

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 05:44

Finkel wrote: ↑04 Nov 2023, 21:00

I don't think that's the case anymore though.

IF they had stuck with the idea that Ngannou was an exhibition. Then fine, whatever. But they pushed and pushed that this was a real fight, even going so far as to get Frank calling in favours with the BBBoC to sanction it. So people are going to judge it as such. In which case Fury was made to look bad, really bad, by a guy on his debut.

Fury can't claim to be top 2 after that shit show.

Usyk is the champ.
And it's Zhang who is the #1 contender at this point.
You could switch in Hrgovic if you wanted (depending on who you think won their fight)

Usyk v Fury is still necessary, though. But it is more Lewis v Briggs than Holyfiled 2. Everyone already knew Lewis was the man, beating the Lineal Champion Briggs was just the tying up of lose ends. People just want to see an undisputed champion, I get that, but it's not #1 v #2 anymore

This is a bit daft.

The guy looks shot to bits.
Not fought a meaningful opponent since early 2022, and it's the Ricky Hatton lifestyle on repeat now.
If he gets in the ring with either Zhang or Hrgovic he takes an L.
Usyk dog walks him.

The Gratest wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 14:49 Wow....this poll result...what a fall from grace.

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 17:35

polecateddy wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 09:30 Yes presumably the promoter and Fury calculation will be can we get away with another cash grab or is the bubble burst with the Saudis if they don’t get Usyk v Fury?

If the rumoured PPV numbers are true, Fury is finished in more ways than one over in Saudi land.