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Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 14:56
by mickey1975
I thought Richardson lost 2-1. Glad I was wrong.

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 14:56
by margaret thatcher
ay, on the board at least :TU:

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 14:58
by Heldenjaeger
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2024, 14:53 how do you even know that when it comes to testing in past years? the iba isnt remotely transparent about what testing was given in what years. they wont release anything and are extremely vague, citing confidentiality while continually blasting khelif and accusing them of being dishonest. the president has only given a couple comments to russian televison and wont go into it further

what is known for sure is they passed khelif to box in years before and there is no evidence of anyone coming forward raising any suspicion of their sex

too bad the hungarian didnt quit, maybe the iba wouldve paid her 100k like they did the italian :lol:
Let's all be honest, nobody cares about women's amateur boxing. Nobody "clears" anyone to fight. They provide a female passport, and they are good to go. Once they reach a certain level, someone might get involved and force individuals to undergo testing, but never before that, if ever.

And you're wrong about Kremlev. He's very outspoken, actually. But he's also banned by the media outside of Russia, so you'll only find a fraction of his statements translated to English.

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 15:00
by margaret thatcher
okay, so what did he say about the testing procedures in past years? what were they and why was khelif allowed to box then? did he only learn about dna in 2023? has he released reports on the 2023 testing to russian media? how does he know khelif is being dishonest?

paying the italian quitter 100k, wtf :lol:

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 15:11
by margaret thatcher
usa's top boxer jahmal harvey upset in the quarters by a krygstan boxer, on paper he was their best shot for gold. expect to see him sign with a big promoter this year

they have omori jones left in the semis at 71kg, where long lanky lewis richardson is as well

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 15:14
by Heldenjaeger
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2024, 15:00 okay, so what did he say about the testing procedures in past years? what were they and why was khelif allowed to box then? did he only learn about dna in 2023? has he released reports on the 2023 testing to russian media? how does he know khelif is being dishonest?

paying the italian quitter 100k, wtf :lol:
I don't speak Russian, but my girlfriend does. I won't ask her to go down that rabbit hole just to continue this argument with you, sorry. We just watched what Kremlev said about the prize money. It doesn't only go to the Italian boxer Carini. Everyone losing to Khelif and Lin Yu-ting will be rewarded as if they won Olympic gold. That's what he said, not only Carini will be rewarded. You can't believe anything the media puts out these days.

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 15:15
by margaret thatcher
right, in other words you have no idea about the testing. nor should you, since the iba has virtually no transparency.

if theyre all getting a 100k payout getting drawn against those 2 may be the best thing that ever happened to those boxers, especially the quitters who werent even close to medal rounds. imagine youre an elite boxer and win silver, and some far inferior boxers, including 40 second quitters, get gold money just for drawing the algerian or chinese

iba gotta have some poster girls in their battle with the ioc. i notice a smiling photo of carini is the first thing on their homepage

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 16:24
by dookus
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2024, 15:15 right, in other words you have no idea about the testing. nor should you, since the iba has virtually no transparency.

if theyre all getting a 100k payout getting drawn against those 2 may be the best thing that ever happened to those boxers, especially the quitters who werent even close to medal rounds. imagine youre an elite boxer and win silver, and some far inferior boxers, including 40 second quitters, get gold money just for drawing the algerian or chinese

iba gotta have some poster girls in their battle with the ioc. i notice a smiling photo of carini is the first thing on their homepage
:TU:

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 16:55
by Heldenjaeger
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2024, 15:15 right, in other words you have no idea about the testing. nor should you, since the iba has virtually no transparency.

if theyre all getting a 100k payout getting drawn against those 2 may be the best thing that ever happened to those boxers, especially the quitters who werent even close to medal rounds. imagine youre an elite boxer and win silver, and some far inferior boxers, including 40 second quitters, get gold money just for drawing the algerian or chinese

iba gotta have some poster girls in their battle with the ioc. i notice a smiling photo of carini is the first thing on their homepage
Damn you really hate female boxing with a passion, you literally lie about every single detail, even the smallest ones. May I ask you why?

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 20:02
by margaret thatcher
this is from the president of the iba on social media talking about the ioc btw, what a guy :lol:

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Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 03 Aug 2024, 20:08
by margaret thatcher
later today have the potential bout of the tournament: khyzniak vs lopez

lopez already has 2 golds to hoping for the ukranian to win here

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 04 Aug 2024, 09:07
by funso banjo baby
Managed to catch one good fight in men's semis. Domican rep v France. No idea would weight but a decent scrap. No way was it unanimous

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 04 Aug 2024, 13:30
by margaret thatcher
khynizak edges lopez in an excellent fight 3-2 and now gets another change for gold, will be going against khaz nurbek oralbay, the defending world champ who hasnt looked as convincing these olympics. khyzniak, whose name i am repeatedly butchering in different ways, won a split vs oralbay last year

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 05 Aug 2024, 13:53
by dookus
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2024, 20:02 this is from the president of the iba on social media talking about the ioc btw, what a guy :lol:

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You may find this interesting. IBA are shambolic.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/arti ... 5dd2lz8y8o

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 05 Aug 2024, 17:04
by Kilburn
God that must have been excruciating to witness.

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 05 Aug 2024, 18:06
by KiwiRider
What an absolute mess. Here is an extract from that press conference where they basically say the opposite from what they came out and said 4 days ago! :doh:

"They have very high levels of testosterone," said Kremlev, who joined via video link and spoke through a translator.

"We got the test results that they allowed us to make and these test results show they have high levels of testosterone, like men."

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 05 Aug 2024, 19:21
by margaret thatcher
dookus wrote: 05 Aug 2024, 13:53
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2024, 20:02 this is from the president of the iba on social media talking about the ioc btw, what a guy :lol:

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You may find this interesting. IBA are shambolic.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/arti ... 5dd2lz8y8o
what a f@cking mess, embarrasing :lol:

so yes it was a testosterone test, oh wait no it actually wasnt, but we wont say we were wrong about that. and we didn't make khelif's sex an issue, oh wait ya we did mention that she's a man deceiving people about it, and we paid off her opponent's team 100k, true. and ya the exact same testing didnt find khelif to be a male in 2022, but hey things can change a lot in a year. oh and by the way the ioc are sodomites.

is the iba serious with all this or is this satire :clap:

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 06 Aug 2024, 17:08
by Cholo_cws
Khelif manhandles and dominates her Thai opponent.

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 06 Aug 2024, 17:15
by Coco
Cholo_cws wrote: 06 Aug 2024, 17:08 Khelif manhandles and dominates her Thai opponent.
Good on her, hope she wins gold

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 06 Aug 2024, 17:21
by Cholo_cws
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Aug 2024, 19:21
dookus wrote: 05 Aug 2024, 13:53
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Aug 2024, 20:02 this is from the president of the iba on social media talking about the ioc btw, what a guy :lol:

Image
You may find this interesting. IBA are shambolic.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/arti ... 5dd2lz8y8o
what a f@cking mess, embarrasing :lol:

so yes it was a testosterone test, oh wait no it actually wasnt, but we wont say we were wrong about that. and we didn't make khelif's sex an issue, oh wait ya we did mention that she's a man deceiving people about it, and we paid off her opponent's team 100k, true. and ya the exact same testing didnt find khelif to be a male in 2022, but hey things can change a lot in a year. oh and by the way the ioc are sodomites.

is the iba serious with all this or is this satire :clap:
I agree it is farcical and looks shady - the norm in boxing unfortunately. Khelif and Lin's 2023 disqualifications begs the question why didn't they take it to the Court of Arbitration for Sport? I would suggest, because they knew they would lose.

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 06 Aug 2024, 17:32
by margaret thatcher
good question tbf. if propose anohter possibility, that maybe cuz they knew the crazy iba dudes wouldnt be running the olympics

they werent men when tested in 2022, yet were men in 2023 using the same test, okay :lol:

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 06 Aug 2024, 17:38
by margaret thatcher
usa's final male boxer eliminated, meaning their mens gold medal drought will rise to at least 24 years

lewy richardson out vs a good mexican, bronze a great showing for richy

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 07 Aug 2024, 00:46
by samwbr
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Aug 2024, 17:38 usa's final male boxer eliminated, meaning their mens gold medal drought will rise to at least 24 years

lewy richardson out vs a good mexican, bronze a great showing for richy
3rd round scoring was off IMO

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 07 Aug 2024, 08:28
by Cholo_cws
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Aug 2024, 17:32 good question tbf. if propose anohter possibility, that maybe cuz they knew the crazy iba dudes wouldnt be running the olympics

they werent men when tested in 2022, yet were men in 2023 using the same test, okay :lol:
This is a good article. It seems they were tested in 2022 after complaints from other nations but the IBA didn't/couldn't act on it until the worlds in 2023 when they were tested again..

https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/20 ... nfzgtao0gy

Re: Olympic boxing 2024

Posted: 07 Aug 2024, 12:48
by Cholo_cws
I've heard Lewis Richardson being interviewed twice on the radio today. He comes across as really decent, grateful. grounded guy.