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TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 19:52

samwbr wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 17:08

DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 16:48 Didn't expect Groves to quit. He was gutsy. He got caught good though.

Quit? FFS.

How is shaking your head on the floor and deciding not to get up not quitting?

Groves isn't a quitter, he was knocked out it happens. Would you rather see him get up defenceless and get very badly hurt?

samwbr wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:09

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 02:11 Callum’s prize money was just over £4m.

In losing, Groves made around £2.2m..

Very good money for a tournament final.

Good for him, I'm surprised it was that high tho.

The line up for both tournaments was so strong because the money was impossible to turn down

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:13

samwbr wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:09

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 02:11 Callum’s prize money was just over £4m.

In losing, Groves made around £2.2m..

Very good money for a tournament final.

Good for him, I'm surprised it was that high tho.

The line up for both tournaments was so strong because the money was impossible to turn down

Clearly, I'm all for it.

samwbr wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:12

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 19:52

samwbr wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 17:08

Quit? FFS.

How is shaking your head on the floor and deciding not to get up not quitting?

Groves isn't a quitter, he was knocked out it happens. Would you rather see him get up defenceless and get very badly hurt?

Groves shook his head and QUIT on the floor. I'm stating a fact. I didn't criticize him for it.

samwbr wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:12

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 19:52

samwbr wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 17:08

Quit? FFS.

How is shaking your head on the floor and deciding not to get up not quitting?

Groves isn't a quitter, he was knocked out it happens. Would you rather see him get up defenceless and get very badly hurt?

True. Is Smith hit most people here with a jab, they wouldn’t get up. I was surprised and disappointed but didn’t think he’d quit, Groves has balls

samwbr wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:12

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 19:52

samwbr wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 17:08

Quit? FFS.

How is shaking your head on the floor and deciding not to get up not quitting?

Groves isn't a quitter, he was knocked out it happens. Would you rather see him get up defenceless and get very badly hurt?

He did quit mate. Nothing against him for it but the bottom line is he quit. He shook his head and rose as soon as the ref finished the count if he was that hurt off the body shot there would be no way he would be standing that soon after

Groves obviously quitted. I'm not blaming him though, but that was damn obvious. He isn't out, he's ready to stand up, but he shakes his head and stands right after the count. What the hell is it, if not quitting?

samwbr wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:09

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 02:11 Callum’s prize money was just over £4m.

In losing, Groves made around £2.2m..

Very good money for a tournament final.

Good for him, I'm surprised it was that high tho.

Well it was £44m across the 2 tournaments..

The semi finals, all participants received an equal £1.5m.. again still decent..

cfang wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 17:31 How on earth does Smith make super middle? He dwarfed groves. Impressive win though. Picked his punches well.

Thats what I thought, he looked huge, I didn't realise he is 6'3"

DrDuke wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:42 Groves obviously quitted. I'm not blaming him though, but that was damn obvious. He isn't out, he's ready to stand up, but he shakes his head and stands right after the count. What the hell is it, if not quitting?

PC brigade will shame you for what you posted there but a blind man can see you are right.

We've seen fighters who have won the world titles and made their money lose some of their toughness late on in their career.

Groves had no quit in him before but when it came down to it this time he wanted out. You can't imagine Groves from the Froch fights shaking his head and staying down for the count.

PC brigade

Was out last night so didn't see the fight and that's me only seeing the result when I came on here. Well done to Smith. Bit of a coming out party for him with that win. I'll watch the fight later and make a judgement but it's hard to see where Groves goes from here. Lot of miles on the clock and he's made his money so maybe it's the end of the road?

I wanted Groves to win but everybody gets old and last night was kind of a passing of the torch. I know it was the body shot that finished him but I thought Groves still looked a bit glassy eyed when they interviewed him in the ring. He's never come across as the sort of idiot who would blow all his money so I'm sure he's quite secure financially and I would be happy to see him retire now. Entertaining fighter who achieved enough to jack it in and be able to look back on an impressive record. He doesn't need to fight again.

Big groves fan so pretty gutted for George

I thought groves looked much slower than usual, call itvage or miles on the clock.

Smith stepped up to the plate well though, was patient, good movement making groves work hard. Groves was more out his comfort zone thN Smith was, due to height and reach mainly.

Think groves had the power to hurt smith, but getting in range for that to happen looked a problem.

On the flip side groves definitely felt smiths power and it was a peach counter to set up the finish

It wasn’t a quit he got stopped clinically

Writing on the wall early. Didn't Smith catch groves with a right in the first? It looked hard and it was surprising fast too. Too big a compliment this but Smith reminded me a bit of monzon. Huge for the weight, patient but chillingly effective. Someone made the point about groves having to fight at 100% to keep Smith off him. Very true. Groves should retire for sure. He took defeat brilliantly though. Class act.

Groves can call it now and have nothing to be ashamed of

cfang wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 05:49 Writing on the wall early. Didn't Smith catch groves with a right in the first? It looked hard and it was surprising fast too. Too big a compliment this but Smith reminded me a bit of monzon. Huge for the weight, patient but chillingly effective. Someone made the point about groves having to fight at 100% to keep Smith off him. Very true. Groves should retire for sure. He took defeat brilliantly though. Class act.

Yeah he did, think Groves knew immediately he was up against it, Callum boxed well at range and didn't give George much encouragement to get on the inside.
Gallagher gets stick by they did the job perfectly last night.

It's always the same with body shot KOs, you can bet your life that some people will say the recipient quit.

jtourettes wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 06:30 It's always the same with body shot KOs, you can bet your life that some people will say the recipient quit.

Like Khan said after the fight. Body shots are worse than head shots.

You'd look at Smith and think he was just throwing flurry's, but they were all timed, the body shot was perfect. Groves lifted his arm, body shot came in nicely.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 07:26

jtourettes wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 06:30 It's always the same with body shot KOs, you can bet your life that some people will say the recipient quit.

Like Khan said after the fight. Body shots are worse than head shots.

You'd look at Smith and think he was just throwing flurry's, but they were all timed, the body shot was perfect. Groves lifted his arm, body shot came in nicely.

Groves wasn't getting up, body shot or no body shot.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 07:26

jtourettes wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 06:30 It's always the same with body shot KOs, you can bet your life that some people will say the recipient quit.

Like Khan said after the fight. Body shots are worse than head shots.

Hmmm, still think I’d rather take the potentially horrendous pain from a body shot than be laid out completely by a head shot like Khan was against Canelo...

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 07:49

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 07:26

jtourettes wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 06:30 It's always the same with body shot KOs, you can bet your life that some people will say the recipient quit.

Like Khan said after the fight. Body shots are worse than head shots.

Hmmm, still think I’d rather take the potentially horrendous pain from a body shot than be laid out completely by a head shot like Khan was against Canelo...

Khan has made head shots look painful.. But the way guys go down due to body shots. You can tell it's painful.

Nothing put you out of business like a good bodyshot

Oiky wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 08:37 Nothing put you out of business like a good bodyshot

Khan looked closed for business after the canelo right hand.

I'd rather take hearns right hand to the body than to the chin like Duran did. He also looked closed for business. For quite some time.

jtourettes wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 06:30 It's always the same with body shot KOs, you can bet your life that some people will say the recipient quit.

Groves was on his feet as soon as the count was done and was shaking his head on the floor. A good body shot takes all the life out of you and you can't breath or think. Groves shaking his head and getting up as soon as the count ended tells me he quit. If he wanted to he could of rose before the count, he didn't so in my eyes he quit