Demetrius Andrade vs. Maciej Sulecki - June 29, 2019

Who wins?

Poll ended at 29 Jun 2019, 08:03

Andrade - Decision
23
72%
Andrade - T/KO
2
6%
DRAW
1
3%
Sulecki - T/KO
4
13%
Sulecki - Decision
2
6%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Maciej Sulecki - June 29, 2019

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How many punches actually landed in this fight?
Last edited by Ilya Muromets on 30 Jun 2019, 00:17, edited 2 times in total.
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I'd rather watch paint dry than watch Andrade again. Boxing doesn't need fighters like Andrade, kills audiences.
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Demetrius ‘bore, bore’ Andrade
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My prediction was totally wrong. What was my mistake? Basically, I incorrectly thought that Sulecki would be able to land enough punches on Andrade to slow him down over the first eight rounds. I knew Sulecki would be way behind through the eighth due to Andrade's superior speed and athleticism, but I thought he'd at least put some hurt on Demetrius. I was way off...the reality is that the Pole simply couldn't hang in there with Andrade's superior athleticism. Therefore, Sulecki could barely land a punch.

But still, I think someday somebody is going to slow Andrade down over the stretch. Some strong, athletic guy will drain his energy.. When that happens, Andrade's going to be in trouble. I really am concerned about Andrade's over-reliance on athleticism and his - in my opinion at least -- careless technique.
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Errrm was that KD a trip or slip off balance?
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lazboy wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 00:20 Errrm was that KD a trip or slip off balance?

I think it may have been a slip. I'm not sure that a single punch landed in this candidate for worst fight of the year.
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 00:21 I think it may have been a slip. I'm not sure that a single punch landed in this candidate for worst fight of the year.
I agree.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Maciej Sulecki - June 29, 2019

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Sulęcki had no idea what to do, one of the major mistake was that he was walking in the right direction, not left, Andrade's hard to hit, he's not entertaining because he adjusts to opponent's level, he is economical fighter, he shows his very decent amateur background. after this fight i rank him #3 at MW.
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Ricky wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 00:14 I'd rather watch paint dry than watch Andrade again. Boxing doesn't need fighters like Andrade, kills audiences.
Amazing to me anybody thought this would be good. I turned this and the Charlo fights off after 4 RDS. Very good UFC though.
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Demetrius Andrade 27 0 0
vs
Maciej Sulecki 28 1 0
World Boxing Organisation World Middleweight Title

Andrade won by UD




FULL CARD HIGHLIGHTS and VIDEOS HERE:
https://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/vie ... 8&t=130485


ENJOY!! :TU:
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jamamb wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 00:10 for sulecki in particular, jack culcay was actually way more competitive vs andrade even though sulecki beat him
Culcay is not a typical european fighter though + i think that Andrade was in the best shape up-to-date tonight. imo he looked better than in any other fight before, of course he's economical, that makes him unentertaining, but his style will be a danger for everyone.
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dagilechia wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 00:27 Culcay is not a typical european fighter though + i think that Andrade was in the best shape up-to-date tonight. imo he looked better than in any other fight before, of course he's economical, that makes him unentertaining, but his style will be a danger for everyone.


I think a different referee might have warned Andrade to stop showboating and start fighting.
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TheBeast wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 00:27...

ENJOY!! :TU:

Enjoy? Surely you jest.
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 00:30 I think a different referee might have warned Andrade to stop showboating and start fighting.
his kills the fight but he makes his opponents look hopeless, very awkward fighter
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Maciej Sulecki - June 29, 2019

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Sulecki's corner was of little use. Were i Sulecki's cornerman, i would have had him step on Andrade's lead foot to freeze him, slight lean to the left, and then bang -straight left down the center. Also, since Andrade likes to bend so low, i would have had Sulecki fake the high left hook and then throw it low like a left to the body.
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It is too late for Andrade so this we can reveal: his accuracy is terrible and with his wild swings he throws himself completely out of position. Boxing movement is not professional boxing. A fighter must have purpose with his technique and tactically apply his skills. Andrade won mostly by just throwing his arms out in the air hoping something would land. His corner looked unsatisfied. And Andrade has that deadly habit of taking his eyes off his opponent -a pro doesn't turn his head away while attacking or defending.

Andrade is a dead man walking if he fights GGG, Canelo, of even Saunders if Andrade fights the same way he did tonight.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Maciej Sulecki - June 29, 2019

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Dan Rafael
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PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Middleweight world titlist Demetrius Andrade wanted to send a message to the two major stars of the middleweight division, unified champion Canelo Alvarez and former unified champion Gennady Golovkin, that he was ready for a mega fight.

"Boo Boo" did just that in a triumphant homecoming on Saturday night at the Dunkin' Donuts Center.

Andrade, who drew a raucous crowd of 7,136 to the first fight of his 11-year professional career in his hometown, retained his 160-pound belt for the second time as he knocked Maciej Sulecki down in the first round and rolled to a shutout decision -- 120-107 on all three scorecards -- in a dazzling performance to stay on track for a potential fight with Canelo or GGG. ESPN also had it 120-107 for Andrade, who called out the big names after the fight, just as he had beforehand.

"Where's Canelo? Where's GGG? What's the holdup?" Andrade said. "I didn't look past Sulecki. I just knew I was going to beat him."

Andrade (28-0, 17 KOs), 31, a southpaw, gave the hometown fans something to cheer wildly about in a huge opening round in which he wobbled Sulecki (28-2, 11 KOs), 30, of Poland, early with a left hand and then floored him with another left on top of the head moments later. Andrade kept firing and hurting Sulecki, who was in all sorts of trouble throughout the round.

Andrade is known for being a technician in the ring, but he was very aggressive against Sulecki, going after him with combinations and double jabs while also keeping a tight defense. It made for a crowd-pleasing performance, even when he eased up on the aggression later in the fight. But it was still the kind of all-around performance that might give other top middleweights second thoughts about wanting to fight him.

"If I would've stopped him? No. If I outbox him? No," Andrade said of other top middleweights' desire to face him. "I still beat [Sulecki] for 12 rounds. If you want to say you're a legend and you're the top guy, then you need to come this way. There's no other way. I don't want to fight the bottom guys. Sulecki is a top-10 guy. There are no more. I keep beating them, I keep beating them, I just keep beating them."

Andrade, once chronically inactive but in his third fight in eight months, was so in control that in the fifth round he stopped for a moment to imitate the Muhammad Ali shuffle, much to the delight of the crowd.

Sulecki, who has been knocked down in three of his past four fights (Andrade, twice by Gabe Rosado and by Daniel Jacobs), could barely land anything solid as Andrade, a two-time junior middleweight world titlist and 2008 U.S. Olympian, outboxed and outpunched him round after round.

In the 10th round, Andrade connected with several thudding straight left hands that got the crowd excited as he continued to extend his obvious lead against Sulecki, whose only previous loss was a decision in a competitive fight with former middleweight titlist Jacobs.

Even with Andrade in total control of a one-sided fight in the final few rounds, his hometown fans were on their feet and cheering his every punch and counter punch.

"I am the best out here. He stepped up to the plate. Sulecki was a tough guy. He wasn't taking no for an answer," Andrade said. "He came to fight, though, and I did what I had to do, and that's look pretty. Tall, black, handsome."

According to CompuBox punch statistics, the fight was every bit the landslide as the official scores were, as Andrade landed 133 of 496 shots (27%) while Sulecki landed only 51 of 331 (15%). Sulecki never landed more than seven punches in a round and connected with only one of the 29 punches he threw in the fifth round.

"Sulecki was a great fighter. Top-10 guy, he came after it all night and let me utilize my tools," Andrade said. "I gave people another great 12 rounds of boxing. I used my jab. Sulecki is no pushover."

Then Andrade took a shot at recent GGG and Canelo opponents, who were not highly regarded.

"[Sulecki] ain't no Steve Rolls, ain't no Rocky Fielding. So Canelo, where your cajones at? Let's get it," Andrade said of Golovkin's foe on June 8 and Alvarez's in December.

"Forget the WBC s---. Whatever that 'franchise' belt is. Let's go, Canelo," Andrade said. "Let's have one champion. It's right here. Let's do it. No more running, no more games. Let's put it all on the line and see who is the best. Mano y mano. Viva Mexico!"

Final Punch Stats

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FIGHTER	TOTAL		JABS		POWER
Andrade	133 of 496 (27%)39 of 264 (15%)	94 of 232 (41%)
Sulecki	51 of 331 (15%)	15 of 127 (12%)	36 of 204 (18%)
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Purses

Andrade: $1.5m (career-high)
Sulecki: $400,000 (approx.)
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Onetimeonly wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 00:26 Amazing to me anybody thought this would be good. I turned this and the Charlo fights off after 4 RDS. Very good UFC though.
That big bastard Ngannou won me another 1st rounder in a row! Was chasing losses on Parker though, took him under 6 vs Lepai. Not sure what that performance was all about, clearly couldn't be bothered.
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The outcome was so predictable. Andrade tends to start relatively fast, establish his confidence and then finishes the job (actually a bigger part of it) in a dull fashion.
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As i predicted, Andrade fooled everybody with his slickness
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DrDuke wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 08:33 The outcome was so predictable. Andrade tends to start relatively fast, establish his confidence and then finishes the job (actually a bigger part of it) in a dull fashion.
Correction: never finishes the job, as he has nothing to offer beside his awkwardness.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 10:13 Correction: never finishes the job, as he has nothing to offer beside his awkwardness.
i agree, i think that he could knock Sulęcki out if he really tried to. and so he could knock Kautondokwa and Akavov if he wanted to but he didn't. really awkward fighter. i underestimated him.
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Ricky wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 07:29 That big bastard Ngannou won me another 1st rounder in a row! Was chasing losses on Parker though, took him under 6 vs Lepai. Not sure what that performance was all about, clearly couldn't be bothered.
Unreal you didn't win that. All Parker had to do was rip the body and it would have been over in 2.
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JxhDel. wrote: 30 Jun 2019, 09:23 As i predicted, Andrade fooled everybody with his slickness
Wow, you're awesome. Did you really predict a huge favorite to outslick a fringe contender that he had every advantage over? You rule! :bow:
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