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Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:04
by Duran1970
dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 22:02
Extra weight doesnt help AK he carries that fat different than Ruiz, he MUST lose 10kg
Agree
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:05
by margaret thatcher
He's like a higher level Dave Allen, he can get in shape but the natural tools just aren't there for top level success.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:06
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:05
He's like a higher level Dave Allen, he can get in shape but the natural tools just aren't there for top level success.
Some of the prospects will catch up to him soon too. Joyce can beat him now. Wouldn't mind seeing that one.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:07
by KiwiRider
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:00
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 22:55
You will cry large tears when Kow steps up. He's doomed.
We disagree, Boogy Woogy. He'll look a lot better when he trims down, and even at that weight he kept going, and he takes a punch better than almost anyone and set another record for punches thrown and landed. I think Arreola gets a lot of credit too. It was the best I've ever seen him.
It's easy to land lots of punches when your opponent has zero defence. They weren't hard punches because Arreola has a proven record of getting stopped at the top level, and he wasn't even knocked down. He did have his knees buckeled twice early on, but that isn't uncommon for Chris. If Kownacki was a true contender, he would have either won every round or put Arreola down hard.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:07
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 21:38
You'll pardon my ignorance, but the only Ed Reed I know of is the former NFL player.
Yeah, he went into the hof today.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:07
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:01
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:00
We disagree, Boogy Woogy. He'll look a lot better when he trims down, and even at that weight he kept going, and he takes a punch better than almost anyone and set another record for punches thrown and landed. I think Arreola gets a lot of credit too. It was the best I've ever seen him.
LOL! And he did it with a bad hand. Don't be in denial Ilya. He's not that good.
The main question is - can he stand Wilder's/AJ's punches. If yes, i can imagine top shape Kownacki to stop them, i dont say he would, but i can imagine that
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:08
by Onetimeonly
Good fight, hunter would beat kownacki.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:09
by KiwiRider
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:06
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:05
He's like a higher level Dave Allen, he can get in shape but the natural tools just aren't there for top level success.
Some of the prospects will catch up to him soon too. Joyce can beat him now. Wouldn't mind seeing that one.
I think if Price fought like he did with Allen, he would have won, Kownacki is a lot easier to hit than Allen was.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:09
by victor-romeo
Wilder totally destroys this guy ..that is actually one of the reasons he exists as an option to be destroyed by Wilder..
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:09
by dagilechia
KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:07
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:00
We disagree, Boogy Woogy. He'll look a lot better when he trims down, and even at that weight he kept going, and he takes a punch better than almost anyone and set another record for punches thrown and landed. I think Arreola gets a lot of credit too. It was the best I've ever seen him.
It's easy to land lots of punches when your opponent has zero defence. They weren't hard punches because Arreola has a proven record of getting stopped at the top level, and he wasn't even knocked down. He did have his knees buckeled twice early on, but that isn't uncommon for Chris. If Kownacki was a true contender, he would have either won every round or put Arreola down hard.
Out of shape Ruiz couldnt stop the corpse of Liakhovich and looked unimpressive. We shouldnt rate Kownacki basing on that fight.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:10
by Ilya Muromets
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:01
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:00
We disagree, Boogy Woogy. He'll look a lot better when he trims down, and even at that weight he kept going, and he takes a punch better than almost anyone and set another record for punches thrown and landed. I think Arreola gets a lot of credit too. It was the best I've ever seen him.
LOL! And he did it with a bad hand. Don't be in denial Ilya. He's not that good.
Yes Arreola did it with a hurt hand - tho apparently he was still able to punch hard with it. Like I said he looked better than I've ever seen him, best shape. Kow has had spectacular wins, and his non-spectacular wins, like this and Martin, were when he showed up very fat.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:10
by TheBeast
heavy
Adam Kownacki 19 0 0
vs
Chris Arreola 38 5 1
Kownacki won by UD
FULL CARD HIGHLIGHTS HERE:
https://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/vie ... 8&t=130670
ENJOY!!

Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:12
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:07
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:01
LOL! And he did it with a bad hand. Don't be in denial Ilya. He's not that good.
The main question is - can he stand Wilder's/AJ's punches. If yes, i can imagine top shape Kownacki to stop them, i dont say he would, but i can imagine that
Wilder would blather him like Breazeale. AJ might KO him, unless the AJ we saw against Ruiz is the real AJ. Kow might be able to beat that version. Ruiz; Fury; Ortiz; Whyte; all beat him easily. Rivas would beat him as well. Good fight with Chisora maybe.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:13
by victor-romeo
KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:09
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:06
Some of the prospects will catch up to him soon too. Joyce can beat him now. Wouldn't mind seeing that one.
I think if Price fought like he did with Allen, he would have won, Kownacki is a lot easier to hit than Allen was.
Kownacki takes Price 7 times if they fight 10 times.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:14
by oogiebe
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:10
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:01
LOL! And he did it with a bad hand. Don't be in denial Ilya. He's not that good.
Yes Arreola did it with a hurt hand - tho apparently he was still able to punch hard with it. Like I said he looked better than I've ever seen him, best shape. Kow has had spectacular wins, and his non-spectacular wins, like this and Martin, were when he showed up very fat.
Kow helped Chris look good. He's just not that great. I enjoy watching him though. Let's see who he fights next.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:15
by oogiebe
victor-romeo wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:13
KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:09
I think if Price fought like he did with Allen, he would have won, Kownacki is a lot easier to hit than Allen was.
Kownacki takes Price 7 times if they fight 10 times.
I don't know about that. Price is an enigma, but he is long and powerful. If Price gasses, he's dead meat.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:16
by Contendeh
If you don’t have significant power you have got to have a certain degree of defense.
Kownacki has neither.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:16
by victor-romeo
Yea Price hits hard , but you right, he gasses easy and his chin is China..
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:16
by dagilechia
victor-romeo wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:13
KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:09
I think if Price fought like he did with Allen, he would have won, Kownacki is a lot easier to hit than Allen was.
Kownacki takes Price 7 times if they fight 10 times.
Lol Kownacki's style is a nightmare for Price
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:17
by victor-romeo
Contendeh wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:16
If you don’t have significant power you have got to have a certain degree of defense.
Kownacki has neither.

Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:17
by oogiebe
Contendeh wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:16
If you don’t have significant power you have got to have a certain degree of defense.
Kownacki has neither.
Well put.

Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:17
by KiwiRider
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:12
dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:07
The main question is - can he stand Wilder's/AJ's punches. If yes, i can imagine top shape Kownacki to stop them, i dont say he would, but i can imagine that
Wilder would blather him like Breazeale. AJ might KO him, unless the AJ we saw against Ruiz is the real AJ. Kow might be able to beat that version. Ruiz; Fury; Ortiz; Whyte; all beat him easily. Rivas would beat him as well. Good fight with Chisora maybe.
Actually, I thought about Chisora too. If there is anything left of Del Boy after Parker is done with him that is

Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:17
by victor-romeo
Kownacki fight tonight with Arreola was good match making though..
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:19
by KiwiRider
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:17
Contendeh wrote: ↑03 Aug 2019, 23:16
If you don’t have significant power you have got to have a certain degree of defense.
Kownacki has neither.
Well put.
X2
If Chris Arreola can land double flush right hands at will, then you have to say his defence is around zero.
Re: Round-by-Round: Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola - August 3
Posted: 03 Aug 2019, 23:20
by victor-romeo
Kownacki is a good fighter though just not top 5 heavyweight mateiral he has fast hands and throws creative combination and likes to fight and has courage all admirable things but as some one said he lacks big ko power and defense not enough to go to the super elite level of top 5 heavyweight.