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brilo33 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 21:56

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 21:52

brilo33 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 21:45

carl thompson did

Haye was 24 and not at his prime just yet, but fair point.

world title was it not , what was haye prime then beating del boy

World title yes, but that doesn't mean it was his prime.

haye had been pro for a year and a half when thompson beat him

haye could ko younger fury, the one who struggled with cunn and got dropped by pajkic, but i think the matured fury would be all wrong for him. haye tended to shy up vs big guys who could box , and even some big guys who couldnt

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 21:58

brilo33 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 21:56

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 21:52

Haye was 24 and not at his prime just yet, but fair point.

world title was it not , what was haye prime then beating del boy

World title yes, but that doesn't mean it was his prime.

so what was his prime del boy

it was for the ibo, not a legit world title, haye didnt box for a legit title until 3 years later

he had been pro a year and a half, do you think he was in his prime vs thompson?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 22:00 he had been pro a year and a half, do you think he was in his prime vs thompson?

no i dont also it was a cruiserweight i was being obtuse that haye is even being mentionted in the vain as some boxers

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 22:00 he had been pro a year and a half, do you think he was in his prime vs thompson?

what was his best win ruiz or del boy or that giant from mortal kombat

probably around the time of the enzo bout , and at heavyweight he was still very handy up until the del fight

thompson he was basically a prospect

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 22:04 probably around the time of the enzo bout , and at heavyweight he was still very handy up until the del fight

thompson he was basically a prospect

Agreed. Mormeck forward up until Klitchko.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 22:04 probably around the time of the enzo bout , and at heavyweight he was still very handy up until the del fight

thompson he was basically a prospect

so the geezer who beat enzo i wont back down you rate better than fury on that win then

bruh, read my responses again, i said i think fury would be all wrong for haye

im just saying that haye wasnt in his prime a year and a half into his career, when thompson beat him

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 22:11 bruh, read my responses again, i said i think fury would be all wrong for haye

im just saying that haye wasnt in his prime a year and a half into his career, when thompson beat him

fair dos not digging u out mate , what u reckon haye peaked against Maccarinelli del boy for me had to be his best win

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 22:11 bruh, read my responses again, i said i think fury would be all wrong for haye

im just saying that haye wasnt in his prime a year and a half into his career, when thompson beat him

what u reckon of ur boy efe the other night

efe not really my boy, i thought he was a decent prospect but albeit clearly flawed

fight pretty much showed up his short comings, too stiff and lacking in boxing skills, couldnt find a place for his power and got beaten clearly

sanchez won well, but man i thought he was as boring as sh!t my man

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 22:23 efe not really my boy, i thought he was a decent prospect but albeit clearly flawed

fight pretty much showed up his short comings, too stiff and lacking in boxing skills, couldnt find a place for his power and got beaten clearly

sanchez won well, but man i thought he was as boring as sh!t my man

to be honest thought sanchez looked all right 29 aswell he aint huge tho. i always thought efe was a bit much looked the part type

Cas wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 21:38 Fury has a lot to do to be on the same level as Lewis yet. Beating a worn Klitschko and Wilder is just not going to cut it. Lewis went against some of the best heavies to lace the gloves.

Fury needs to beat Whyte, AJ, Usyk and Ruiz, maybe more. Then we can start talking about being the greatest British heavyweight. But for now Lewis is still far ahead. His resume is nothing short of remarkable really and will be hard to beat.

Tucker, Ruddock, Mccall, Morrison, Mercer, Golota, Holyfield, Briggs, Botha, Rahman, Vitali, Tyson, Tua

This resume shits all over Fury currently.

A few of these are bums. Botha? Tyson? Wilder is far more dangerous than the bum version of Tyson Lennox fought.

Fury wouldn't have any issues outboxing Mercer and the majority of these opponents.

Blodhemn wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 22:46

Cas wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 21:38 Fury has a lot to do to be on the same level as Lewis yet. Beating a worn Klitschko and Wilder is just not going to cut it. Lewis went against some of the best heavies to lace the gloves.

Fury needs to beat Whyte, AJ, Usyk and Ruiz, maybe more. Then we can start talking about being the greatest British heavyweight. But for now Lewis is still far ahead. His resume is nothing short of remarkable really and will be hard to beat.

Tucker, Ruddock, Mccall, Morrison, Mercer, Golota, Holyfield, Briggs, Botha, Rahman, Vitali, Tyson, Tua

This resume shits all over Fury currently.

A few of these are bums. Botha? Tyson? Wilder is far more dangerous than the bum version of Tyson Lennox fought.

Fury wouldn't have any issues outboxing Mercer and the majority of these opponents.

tottaly agree mate i mean lenox was about 1/50 on to win all those fights which he never

this has made some interesting reading. heres a thought..... how do you guys think lennox would have stood up to the shots fury absorbed vs wilder in all 3 fights? Do you think he'd have folded?

Steveh583 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2021, 02:19 this has made some interesting reading. heres a thought..... how do you guys think lennox would have stood up to the shots fury absorbed vs wilder in all 3 fights? Do you think he'd have folded?

He could be easily out with the punches of the second KD in the first fight and the first KD in the third fight, since he was out by Rahman, who wasn't that explosive and hard hitting like Wilder.

Isn’t there a YouTube complication of Lewis absorbing lots of hard punches. I think he had a better chin than Fury.

polecateddy wrote: ↑14 Oct 2021, 02:44 Isn’t there a YouTube complication of Lewis absorbing lots of hard punches. I think he had a better chin than Fury.

Lewis' chin isn't bad at all, while Fury's one isn't tested ultimately, but I won't place Lewis' one over Fury's based on the comparisons of situations with Wilder and Rahman. Also, Fury took a clean right hand of Klitschko in a one of the later rounds, which is a big deal.

Interesting that ppl have brought up David Haye, as I was thinking about this last night and remember this matchup was a big deal before Haye withdrew. One of those matchups that everyone was talking about in the barber shop and at the watercooler. On the shop floor and up in the office.

Haye didn't to live up his his heavyweight promise but he was annihilating British guys from Audley to Chisora (Del Boy is not an easy guy to put away) - and Fury was badly hurt by cruiserweight Steve Cunningham, really struggling to see those fast punches coming, before mauling him into an exciting victory.

It's one massive fight missing from the Fury resume. Would've looked really good wouldn't it? But, the Haye withdrawal reflects more on Haye and the empty promises he made, in the transition from being a legit cruiserweight champion and dangerous heavyweight contender/pretender.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 21:59 haye had been pro for a year and a half when thompson beat him

haye could ko younger fury, the one who struggled with cunn and got dropped by pajkic, but i think the matured fury would be all wrong for him. haye tended to shy up vs big guys who could box , and even some big guys who couldnt

depends which Fury, doesn't it.

Even when he fights the same guy twice (McDermott, Chisora), or three times (later on, Wilder), you get a different Fury each time.

I imagine that if Fury was able to get up from Wilder, he'd be able to get up from Haye. I have no doubt that Haye could have dropped Fury heavily. But Haye would burn up lots of energy to get near Fury, and if his gambles don't pay off fully, he would wear out from being leaned on, or from long, spearing punches.

Would Fury have slugged, mauled - or boxed? I can imagine a cautious, boxing Fury (from Chisora 2 and Wlad) utterly dissecting a demoralised Haye. But I can imagine the Fury of the exciting first Chisora bout having to overcome near disasters to win.

When they were supposed to meet, Haye would be destroyed by Fury. Around the time of the 2nd Chisora fight Fury was pretty close to his prime. Haye won't handle best versions of Fury. The Wlad bout scenario would be the most merciful for David.

but you never know given Fury's inconsistency and Haye's ability to whip in sudden power shots.

would've been intriguing and I feel it's a real loss. many were unhappy with Haye for this withdrawal. I believe he was cut during heavy sparring very close to the fight date.