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Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 20 Nov 2021, 18:27
by tonyevs
I don't go for that; not after chasing Eubank for so long - and 4 weeks from actually fighting.
Williams - like the majority of us - Williams believed he would beat Eubank; what better to have on his recent record to negotiate a new contract.

It's hard for me to believe he'd allow himself to get used by Matchroom knowing things are at a crossroads in the UK with them, Sky, and DAZN .. and sides are too precarious to choose allegiances/perfidiousness.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 20 Nov 2021, 18:47
by peter barlow
Sky haven't mentioned it or advertised it tonight so must be off. Very poor to not speak or announce the cancellation though.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 20 Nov 2021, 18:52
by Coco
tonyevs wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 18:27 I don't go for that; not after chasing Eubank for so long - and 4 weeks from actually fighting.
Williams - like the majority of us - Williams believed he would beat Eubank; what better to have on his recent record to negotiate a new contract.

It's hard for me to believe he'd allow himself to get used by Matchroom knowing things are at a crossroads in the UK with them, Sky, and DAZN .. and sides are too precarious to choose allegiances/perfidiousness.
He is not getting used if fast car is getting his cheque book out.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 20 Nov 2021, 20:17
by THEBUTCH
Isn't there a contract in place to fight Eubank jnr with Williams' signature on it :maybe:

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 04:55
by BigDoofus
THEBUTCH wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:17 Isn't there a contract in place to fight Eubank jnr with Williams' signature on it :maybe:
Exactly. He can't just sign one contract and then another one :doh:

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 05:03
by tonyevs
Coco wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 18:52
tonyevs wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 18:27 I don't go for that; not after chasing Eubank for so long - and 4 weeks from actually fighting.
Williams - like the majority of us - Williams believed he would beat Eubank; what better to have on his recent record to negotiate a new contract.

It's hard for me to believe he'd allow himself to get used by Matchroom knowing things are at a crossroads in the UK with them, Sky, and DAZN .. and sides are too precarious to choose allegiances/perfidiousness.
He is not getting used if fast car is getting his cheque book out.
I'd call it being used. Eddie won't pay him enough to cover the damage it will have done if true and he pulls out merely to save another show.

I take the silence as a sign they seeing if whatever injury will be sorted within next few days. I'm thinking hand injury .. wrist/thumb .. something very painful initially but as long as not broken, can heal pretty quickly after a few days rest.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 09:51
by Coco
tonyevs wrote: 21 Nov 2021, 05:03
Coco wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 18:52
tonyevs wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 18:27 I don't go for that; not after chasing Eubank for so long - and 4 weeks from actually fighting.
Williams - like the majority of us - Williams believed he would beat Eubank; what better to have on his recent record to negotiate a new contract.

It's hard for me to believe he'd allow himself to get used by Matchroom knowing things are at a crossroads in the UK with them, Sky, and DAZN .. and sides are too precarious to choose allegiances/perfidiousness.
He is not getting used if fast car is getting his cheque book out.
I'd call it being used. Eddie won't pay him enough to cover the damage it will have done if true and he pulls out merely to save another show.

I take the silence as a sign they seeing if whatever injury will be sorted within next few days. I'm thinking hand injury .. wrist/thumb .. something very painful initially but as long as not broken, can heal pretty quickly after a few days rest.
I am completely guessing, I have no inside info, just I understand how this dirty game works!
It would be no surprise to me if Williams had been poached to ruin the show.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 09:56
by peter barlow
It would be funny if Williams was poached and we got John Ryder Vs Williams but I'd say that's unlikely.

No talk of John Ryder fight, was supposed to be Bivol

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 09:59
by maverick23
Coco wrote: 21 Nov 2021, 09:51
tonyevs wrote: 21 Nov 2021, 05:03
Coco wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 18:52

He is not getting used if fast car is getting his cheque book out.
I'd call it being used. Eddie won't pay him enough to cover the damage it will have done if true and he pulls out merely to save another show.

I take the silence as a sign they seeing if whatever injury will be sorted within next few days. I'm thinking hand injury .. wrist/thumb .. something very painful initially but as long as not broken, can heal pretty quickly after a few days rest.
I am completely guessing, I have no inside info, just I understand how this dirty game works!
It would be no surprise to me if Williams had been poached to ruin the show.
He’ll have a signed contract with Boxxer though so it’s not like he can bin it off and just sign for another promoter.

There’s more chance of some legals being pushed by FW who may think Williams legally owes him more fights.

I think it’s almost certainly an injury but they’re waiting to have a confirmed plan/replacement fight(s) before releasing anything.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 13:35
by liamlion
Is this fight officially off? Or maybe (hoping) it’s just some psychology from Williams to try and mess with Eubank...?

Not good though, that Sky arent even mentioning the fight at all. Williams has gone off grid on social media and Eubank has come out on Twitter slagging Williams for pulling out.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 13:42
by maverick23
liamlion wrote: 21 Nov 2021, 13:35 Is this fight officially off? Or maybe (hoping) it’s just some psychology from Williams to try and mess with Eubank...?

Not good though, that Sky arent even mentioning the fight at all. Williams has gone off grid on social media and Eubank has come out on Twitter slagging Williams for pulling out.
No - it’s not officially off but all signs are pointing that way.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 14:21
by Ruthless-RKO
Is the card still on..

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 15:57
by Noxy
Eubank is amazingly unlucky. Is that the third withdrawal in a row now.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 16:38
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Nov 2021, 14:21 Is the card still on..
I’m sure they’ll continue with a show as otherwise it’s no more U.K. boxing until Feb for Sky.

They’ve had a few days to sort now and we’re less than 3 weeks out so I’d expect an announcement either way tomorrow.

It was interesting that there was no promotion of the Cardiff show last night and Adam Smith didn’t do his usual post fight interviews on YouTube afterwards.

It’s a bit of a shit show to be honest. Announce the fight, hold a press conference and then the fight is cancelled all in the space of a week and less than a month before the fight is meant to take place.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 16:40
by rd350lc
maverick23 wrote: 21 Nov 2021, 16:38
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Nov 2021, 14:21 Is the card still on..
I’m sure they’ll continue with a show as otherwise it’s no more U.K. boxing until Feb for Sky.

They’ve had a few days to sort now and we’re less than 3 weeks out so I’d expect an announcement either way tomorrow.

It was interesting that there was no promotion of the Cardiff show last night and Adam Smith didn’t do his usual post fight interviews on YouTube afterwards.

It’s a bit of a shit show to be honest. Announce the fight, hold a press conference and then the fight is cancelled all in the space of a week and less than a month before the fight is meant to take place.
Smith jnr v Johnson in January on sky .

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 17:02
by maverick23
rd350lc wrote: 21 Nov 2021, 16:40
maverick23 wrote: 21 Nov 2021, 16:38
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Nov 2021, 14:21 Is the card still on..
I’m sure they’ll continue with a show as otherwise it’s no more U.K. boxing until Feb for Sky.

They’ve had a few days to sort now and we’re less than 3 weeks out so I’d expect an announcement either way tomorrow.

It was interesting that there was no promotion of the Cardiff show last night and Adam Smith didn’t do his usual post fight interviews on YouTube afterwards.

It’s a bit of a shit show to be honest. Announce the fight, hold a press conference and then the fight is cancelled all in the space of a week and less than a month before the fight is meant to take place.
Smith jnr v Johnson in January on sky .
That’s in the States though hence me saying U.K. boxing.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 22 Nov 2021, 12:00
by Frostieballs
I don’t hold with the Eddeh conspiracy theories. If he’s out, I think it’s genuine.

Likely outcome is Eubank Jr vs a fringe European contender.

Which will be weird in Wales!

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 22 Nov 2021, 12:05
by maverick23
Frostieballs wrote: 22 Nov 2021, 12:00 I don’t hold with the Eddeh conspiracy theories. If he’s out, I think it’s genuine.

Likely outcome is Eubank Jr vs a fringe European contender.

Which will be weird in Wales!
Yep. My money is on Sulecki or Muratov who are both highly ranked for minimal reason and they’ll add another decent fight to the show.

They must be struggling though as it’s been 4 days now since it was reported. Eddie rightly got a lot of stick for the 24 hours or so it took to confirm the plan re: the Whyte show so it’s not a particularly good look for Boxxer.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 22 Nov 2021, 13:23
by peter barlow
maverick23 wrote: 22 Nov 2021, 12:05
Frostieballs wrote: 22 Nov 2021, 12:00 I don’t hold with the Eddeh conspiracy theories. If he’s out, I think it’s genuine.

Likely outcome is Eubank Jr vs a fringe European contender.

Which will be weird in Wales!
Yep. My money is on Sulecki or Muratov who are both highly ranked for minimal reason and they’ll add another decent fight to the show.

They must be struggling though as it’s been 4 days now since it was reported. Eddie rightly got a lot of stick for the 24 hours or so it took to confirm the plan re: the Whyte show so it’s not a particularly good look for Boxxer.
Really poor stuff, probably trying to con a few more ticket sales out of unsuspecting fans like the Ritson show.

What a shambles of an outfit so far.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 22 Nov 2021, 13:34
by KiwiRider
If we just neuter John Ryder he will make weight...

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 23 Nov 2021, 06:30
by maverick23
I read an article earlier that Williams had a scan on his shoulder last night. Weird that it takes that long to get a scan sorted for a fairly high level boxer involved in a fairly big show.

Surely there has to be some sort of announcement today/very latest tomorrow.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 23 Nov 2021, 17:13
by tonyevs
Frostieballs wrote: 22 Nov 2021, 12:00 I don’t hold with the Eddeh conspiracy theories. If he’s out, I think it’s genuine.

Likely outcome is Eubank Jr vs a fringe European contender.

Which will be weird in Wales!
The show won't sell in Wales. Eubank won't draw a Welsh crowd; nor will they have any interest in Claressa Shields.

Show will get pulled if Williams is out.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 23 Nov 2021, 20:23
by Ruthless-RKO
tonyevs wrote: 23 Nov 2021, 17:13
Frostieballs wrote: 22 Nov 2021, 12:00 I don’t hold with the Eddeh conspiracy theories. If he’s out, I think it’s genuine.

Likely outcome is Eubank Jr vs a fringe European contender.

Which will be weird in Wales!
The show won't sell in Wales. Eubank won't draw a Welsh crowd; nor will they have any interest in Claressa Shields.

Show will get pulled if Williams is out.
Unless they move it. Would be very short notice.

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 23 Nov 2021, 20:28
by margaret thatcher
isnt sav marshall a massive massive draw now, the talk of all uk boxing? she could headline

Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Williams | Sky Sports - 11 December 2021 (OFF)

Posted: 23 Nov 2021, 21:43
by mickey1975
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Nov 2021, 20:28 isnt sav marshall a massive massive draw now, the talk of all uk boxing? she could headline
She probably does more tickets in the north east than most other fighters do anywhere. I don't think she's even boxing on that show.