DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 07:00
It looks like a lot of butts will explode after Fury beats Usyk. This bout is more threatening then the potential nuclear apocalypse.
I don’t think so.
I’d imagine most people, including me, thinks he beats Usyk. I think if he’s mentally right then he beats everyone.
People are just frustrated with his constant nonsense now. He could have fought Usyk when he fought Whyte but only if he could have fight before it so it didn’t happen. He retires. Calls out anyone from strong men, to top boxers, to wrestlers, to undeserving boxers, gives unrealistic deadlines to AJ where they seemed to be having serious negotiations.
I love Tyson Fury as a boxer. Seen him 10 or so times live including when he beat Wlad but I’m completely bored of his rubbish now and just wish he fights a proper opponent rather than the Chisora/Charr nonsense.
I know a lot more people who think Usyk wins rather than Tyson.
Anyone wants to make a large bet I’m happy to put money where my mouth is.
Interesting.
I’ll happily take a bet with you. Fingers crossed the fight gets made.
I’d imagine most people, including me, thinks he beats Usyk. I think if he’s mentally right then he beats everyone.
People are just frustrated with his constant nonsense now. He could have fought Usyk when he fought Whyte but only if he could have fight before it so it didn’t happen. He retires. Calls out anyone from strong men, to top boxers, to wrestlers, to undeserving boxers, gives unrealistic deadlines to AJ where they seemed to be having serious negotiations.
I love Tyson Fury as a boxer. Seen him 10 or so times live including when he beat Wlad but I’m completely bored of his rubbish now and just wish he fights a proper opponent rather than the Chisora/Charr nonsense.
I know a lot more people who think Usyk wins rather than Tyson.
Anyone wants to make a large bet I’m happy to put money where my mouth is.
Interesting.
I’ll happily take a bet with you. Fingers crossed the fight gets made.
I know a lot more people who think Usyk wins rather than Tyson.
Anyone wants to make a large bet I’m happy to put money where my mouth is.
Interesting.
I’ll happily take a bet with you. Fingers crossed the fight gets made.
Ok let’s do it privately.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 11:04
by garethhop
Very interesting and detailed update from George Warren on TalkSport as to what happened over the last 7 days.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 11:13
by maverick23
garethhop wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 11:04
Very interesting and detailed update from George Warren on TalkSport as to what happened over the last 7 days.
Yeah. He seems far more measured than his old man.
The only points that I don’t think were covered were relating to last week’s second deadline on the Thursday from Tyson (the same day Eddie said they’d send back comments), the suggestion that the mediator they wanted also represented them or Tyson and the contract supposedly being sent to Chisora on Friday.
I could be wrong but I think if Tyson kept his mouth shut then either the deal gets done or the blame is on Matchroom.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 12:54
by big lennox
garethhop wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 11:04
Very interesting and detailed update from George Warren on TalkSport as to what happened over the last 7 days.
It was interesting but possibly a wee bit disengenerous to say they had offered an independent arbitrator when that company is an arm of BT Sports..(according to Hearn)
Even as a layperson, it seems clear to me that Fury doesn't want to fight Usyk. Or even Josuha particularly tbh.
I should say that George Warren came over well, though: very clear and articulate. Like Eddie Hearn. A shame for everyone it didn't come off as I think it would have been a good fight.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 13:18
by tonyevs
Ultimately we on the outside of negotiations can only make an opinion based on prior history - as others here have said; Joshua has not been shy at stepping up whereas Fury has history of spouting off and then stepping back.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 13:45
by ewenhay
Or you could evaluate each case on its own merits.
Which might be a more successful approach.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 15:58
by big lennox
My favourite quote from Hearn, in response to nonsense comments from Bob Arum:
"Let's be honest, if you asked Bob Arum what day of the week it was, there is only a 50% chance he would get it right".
My final comment on Fury's negotiation tactics against Joshua, is actually Dan Raphael's comments:
" my experience tells me that the fighter negotiating by social media doesn't actually want the fight".
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 16:21
by tonyevs
ewenhay wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 13:45
Or you could evaluate each case on its own merits.
ewenhay wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 13:45
Or you could evaluate each case on its own merits.
Which might be a more successful approach.
It might be - it might also not be.
So best go by what you know of past experience
Like AJ-Wilder and Khan-Brook?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 16:57
by mickey1975
It's interesting how Eddie often mentions, truthfully, how Tyson is absolutely full of shite but when it comes to the deadlines apparently it was gospel. Why put so much stock in the word of a man who changes his mind all the time?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 17:06
by 1103924
mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 16:57
It's interesting how Eddie often mentions, truthfully, how Tyson is absolutely full of shite but when it comes to the deadlines apparently it was gospel. Why put so much stock in the word of a man who changes his mind all the time?
mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 16:57
It's interesting how Eddie often mentions, truthfully, how Tyson is absolutely full of shite but when it comes to the deadlines apparently it was gospel. Why put so much stock in the word of a man who changes his mind all the time?
mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 16:57
It's interesting how Eddie often mentions, truthfully, how Tyson is absolutely full of shite but when it comes to the deadlines apparently it was gospel. Why put so much stock in the word of a man who changes his mind all the time?
Mickey probably finds it hard to even mouth the words quietly to himself ,, So you should let him off with that question ,, your sounding like a lawyer .... But i have no such qualms and will answer for hime YES , YES and YES ,, NOT ONLY THAT HE'S A USER AND A MANIPULATOR ,,, HE'S ALSO VERY VERY GOOD AT IT ,,, and guess what i think he's gonna get the fight he's wanted all along ,, a hard spar with his mate Chisora ,, , hence the false arguments recently ,, I think even Charr is too big a risk , he will bring his own script
Mickey probably finds it hard to even mouth the words quietly to himself ,, So you should let him off with that question ,, your sounding like a lawyer .... But i have no such qualms and will answer for hime YES , YES and YES ,, NOT ONLY THAT HE'S A USER AND A MANIPULATOR ,,, HE'S ALSO VERY VERY GOOD AT IT ,,, and guess what i think he's gonna get the fight he's wanted all along ,, a hard spar with his mate Chisora ,, , hence the false arguments recently ,, I think even Charr is too big a risk , he will bring his own script
I'd rather you, of all people, didn't answer for me.
1103924 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 17:15
You're saying Tyson Fury is a liar?
Mickey probably finds it hard to even mouth the words quietly to himself ,, So you should let him off with that question ,, your sounding like a lawyer .... But i have no such qualms and will answer for hime YES , YES and YES ,, NOT ONLY THAT HE'S A USER AND A MANIPULATOR ,,, HE'S ALSO VERY VERY GOOD AT IT ,,, and guess what i think he's gonna get the fight he's wanted all along ,, a hard spar with his mate Chisora ,, , hence the false arguments recently ,, I think even Charr is too big a risk , he will bring his own script
I'd rather you, of all people, didn't answer for me.
In that case, why don't you answer yourself.....
Are you saying Tyson Fury is a liar?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 05 Oct 2022, 05:10
by BigDoofus
Queensbury lawyers staying overnight in a hotel, but Hearn, Cunningham and Smith all stopped replying to calls last week.
1103924 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 17:15
You're saying Tyson Fury is a liar?
Mickey probably finds it hard to even mouth the words quietly to himself ,, So you should let him off with that question ,, your sounding like a lawyer .... But i have no such qualms and will answer for hime YES , YES and YES ,, NOT ONLY THAT HE'S A USER AND A MANIPULATOR ,,, HE'S ALSO VERY VERY GOOD AT IT ,,, and guess what i think he's gonna get the fight he's wanted all along ,, a hard spar with his mate Chisora ,, , hence the false arguments recently ,, I think even Charr is too big a risk , he will bring his own script
I'd rather you, of all people, didn't answer for me.
Thought i'd save you from having to say a bad word about your hero ,, But FEEL FREE to answer , are you saying Tyson Fury is a LIAR
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 05 Oct 2022, 06:53
by mickey1975
How do I know how many lies he tells? Unlike loads on here, I'm not privy to to that sort of information.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 05 Oct 2022, 07:02
by 1103924
mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2022, 06:53
How do I know how many lies he tells? Unlike loads on here, I'm not privy to to that sort of information.
I didn't ask how many lies he tells, I just asked a simple question. Are you calling Tyson Fury a liar?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - OFF
Posted: 05 Oct 2022, 07:10
by ewenhay
They all lie.
It's not like one party is a bastion of truth compared to the others.
It's all about money, ego and being seen to get one up on the other party.
