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Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:33**

Fury put the McDermott result right in the rematch. He lost the first fight, clearly, by 4/5 rounds imo, but as I say he put it right in the rematch and it’s so long ago now it’s not relevant.

As regarding the racist accusation above, Fury dethroned a long time world champion in his own backyard yet Joshua got more positive press coverage for beating Charles Martin! Joshua ticks all the boxes in the UK, where as Fury is from a background that is despised by the media in Britain, namely white working class and more importantly he doesn’t give a fvck for nobody and says what he likes and refuses to toe the line, throw in he’s a traveller and it’s no wonder the BBC and Daily Mail were itching to get amongst him!

If and when it ever happens I’d love to see Tyson win, if only to stick it to the middle class luvvies in the media that detest him

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:36**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 14:46
wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 14:45
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 14:38

It's because the poll was first conducted when people thought Joshua was 'unproven'.

Either that or there are a lot of drugs around in modern Britain.
I originally voted for Fury, I haven't seen anything from AJ that has made me change my vote...
What about the fact that he's an active, in shape, knockout puncher and Fury is a fat cocaine whale?

You guys are complete morons if you still think Fury beats him. He wouldn't even win a round at this point.

That's the trouble with these (Wes' polls).
After Fury beat Wlad everyone would vote for Fury.
After Fury took 2 years off sniffing coke and eating pies...

Personally, IF (huge, massive, underlined, bold, italics IF - I don't think it'll happen) Tyson was back to his best I'd favour him.
Not with much confidence tho' AJ is improving rapidly..

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:36**

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:33 Fury put the McDermott result right in the rematch. He lost the first fight, clearly, by 4/5 rounds imo, but as I say he put it right in the rematch and it’s so long ago now it’s not relevant.

As regarding the racist accusation above, Fury dethroned a long time world champion in his own backyard yet Joshua got more positive press coverage for beating Charles Martin! Joshua ticks all the boxes in the UK, where as Fury is from a background that is despised by the media in Britain, namely white working class and more importantly he doesn’t give a fvck for nobody and says what he likes and refuses to toe the line, throw in he’s a traveller and it’s no wonder the BBC and Daily Mail were itching to get amongst him!

If and when it ever happens I’d love to see Tyson win, if only to stick it to the middle class luvvies in the media that detest him

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:37**

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:33 Fury put the McDermott result right in the rematch. He lost the first fight, clearly, by 4/5 rounds imo, but as I say he put it right in the rematch and it’s so long ago now it’s not relevant.

As regarding the racist accusation above, Fury dethroned a long time world champion in his own backyard yet Joshua got more positive press coverage for beating Charles Martin! Joshua ticks all the boxes in the UK, where as Fury is from a background that is despised by the media in Britain, namely white working class and more importantly he doesn’t give a fvck for nobody and says what he likes and refuses to toe the line, throw in he’s a traveller and it’s no wonder the BBC and Daily Mail were itching to get amongst him!

If and when it ever happens I’d love to see Tyson win, if only to stick it to the middle class luvvies in the media that detest him

This is nonsense. Even on here it's all 'the Furys have always had money, don't worry about that

' stuff.

I agree people hate him because he's a traveller, but it's certainly not because he's white, and he's not working class at all if the financials people mention on here are anything to go by.

As for 'middle class luvvies' hating him, plenty working class people think he's a gimp as well. You get working class gay lads and women as well you know...

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:39**

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:33 Fury put the McDermott result right in the rematch. He lost the first fight, clearly, by 4/5 rounds imo, but as I say he put it right in the rematch and it’s so long ago now it’s not relevant.

As regarding the racist accusation above, Fury dethroned a long time world champion in his own backyard yet Joshua got more positive press coverage for beating Charles Martin! Joshua ticks all the boxes in the UK, where as Fury is from a background that is despised by the media in Britain, namely white working class and more importantly he doesn’t give a fvck for nobody and says what he likes and refuses to toe the line, throw in he’s a traveller and it’s no wonder the BBC and Daily Mail were itching to get amongst him!

If and when it ever happens I’d love to see Tyson win, if only to stick it to the middle class luvvies in the media that detest him

Me too. I can stand those humourless arseholes with their self righteous and simplistic world view. I remember when there was sports personality of the year (which he should have clearly won) and some long jumper was quoted as saying he wouldn’t turn up (he did) because of Tyson’s ‘offensive’ comments. What a bellend.

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:40**

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:30
tobyh5 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:25 Wes get your tongue out of his arsehole fella. You do talk some right twaddle pal
take a look at the poll fella, Fury is the favourite amongst the "racist UK morons" that frequent the boxrec forum it appears pal.
That favouritism was earned by taking the king of the division to school, you AJ fanboys need to smarten up...

Immature Wes. Not buying into Fury does not automatically make someone an AJ fanboy. If you look on another thread, or my post history, you will find I am undecided on AJ and have even said this week I am waiting for him to fall apart.

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:45**

boxingknockout wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:39
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:33 Fury put the McDermott result right in the rematch. He lost the first fight, clearly, by 4/5 rounds imo, but as I say he put it right in the rematch and it’s so long ago now it’s not relevant.

As regarding the racist accusation above, Fury dethroned a long time world champion in his own backyard yet Joshua got more positive press coverage for beating Charles Martin! Joshua ticks all the boxes in the UK, where as Fury is from a background that is despised by the media in Britain, namely white working class and more importantly he doesn’t give a fvck for nobody and says what he likes and refuses to toe the line, throw in he’s a traveller and it’s no wonder the BBC and Daily Mail were itching to get amongst him!

If and when it ever happens I’d love to see Tyson win, if only to stick it to the middle class luvvies in the media that detest him
Me too. I can stand those humourless arseholes with their self righteous and simplistic world view. I remember when there was sports personality of the year (which he should have clearly won) and some long jumper was quoted as saying he wouldn’t turn up (he did) because of Tyson’s ‘offensive’ comments. What a bellend.

Bollox. I have been in scrapes and say stupid ass shite myself, got a criminal record but also own a successful business now and have done for 18 years. Still liable to get in a tussle in the pub though. However I am also a father and I would not ever want my kids to think the crap Fury says (said back them) was or is ever acceptable. Being sensitive and considerate to other people is not a bad thing. My daughter nearly died from extreme anorexia and had to give up college, work and her whole life for 18 months while being treated and fought back to go to uni but is still not in the clear completely. This stems from stupid ffking shite that arseholes say to someone which go in, fester and cause extreme problems. So frankly, your dinosaur attitude is shite mate.

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:46**

tobyh5 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:40
wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:30
tobyh5 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:25 Wes get your tongue out of his arsehole fella. You do talk some right twaddle pal
take a look at the poll fella, Fury is the favourite amongst the "racist UK morons" that frequent the boxrec forum it appears pal.
That favouritism was earned by taking the king of the division to school, you AJ fanboys need to smarten up...
Immature Wes. Not buying into Fury does not automatically make someone an AJ fanboy. If you look on another thread, or my post history, you will find I am undecided on AJ and have even said this week I am waiting for him to fall apart.

I believe it was you my friend that started the immaturity with tongue comments but how and ever.
A prime Fury out boxes and decisions AJ everyday of the week, its quite simply a fact.
The question is, can Fury get back in prime shape. If yes, he schools him. If no, we have a fight...

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:48**

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:46
tobyh5 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:40
wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:30

take a look at the poll fella, Fury is the favourite amongst the "racist UK morons" that frequent the boxrec forum it appears pal.
That favouritism was earned by taking the king of the division to school, you AJ fanboys need to smarten up...
Immature Wes. Not buying into Fury does not automatically make someone an AJ fanboy. If you look on another thread, or my post history, you will find I am undecided on AJ and have even said this week I am waiting for him to fall apart.
I believe it was you my friend that started the immaturity with tongue comments but how and ever.
A prime Fury out boxes and decisions AJ everyday of the week, its quite simply a fact.
The question is, can Fury get back in prime shape. If yes, he schools him. If no, we have a fight...

Facts are things that have actually happened.

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:52**

samwbr wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:48
wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:46
tobyh5 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:40

Immature Wes. Not buying into Fury does not automatically make someone an AJ fanboy. If you look on another thread, or my post history, you will find I am undecided on AJ and have even said this week I am waiting for him to fall apart.
I believe it was you my friend that started the immaturity with tongue comments but how and ever.
A prime Fury out boxes and decisions AJ everyday of the week, its quite simply a fact.
The question is, can Fury get back in prime shape. If yes, he schools him. If no, we have a fight...
Facts are things that have actually happened.

the facts are there. They have a common opponent.
Fury schooled (younger) Wlad.
(older) Wlad and AJ was a life and death fight.
Fury schools AJ.
The math is easy on this one...

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:54**

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:52
samwbr wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:48
wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:46
I believe it was you my friend that started the immaturity with tongue comments but how and ever.
A prime Fury out boxes and decisions AJ everyday of the week, its quite simply a fact.
The question is, can Fury get back in prime shape. If yes, he schools him. If no, we have a fight...
Facts are things that have actually happened.
the facts are there. They have a common opponent.
Fury schooled (younger) Wlad.
(older) Wlad and AJ was a life and death fight.
Fury schools AJ.
The math is easy on this one...

You know (or should) that's not how it goes.

Joshua knocked Klitschko out, Fury barely landed a meaningful blow.

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:54**

Even tho the triangle theory doesn't work in boxing/fighting

It's still safe money betting on Tyson vs AJ

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:55**

samwbr wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:54
wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:52
samwbr wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:48

Facts are things that have actually happened.
the facts are there. They have a common opponent.
Fury schooled (younger) Wlad.
(older) Wlad and AJ was a life and death fight.
Fury schools AJ.
The math is easy on this one...
You know (or should) that's not how it goes.

Joshua knocked Klitschko out, Fury barely landed a meaningful blow. The life and death thing grows bigger every week, it was a bad 2 rounds for Joshua.

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:56**

Oiky wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:54 Even tho the triangle theory doesn't work in boxing/fighting

It's still safe money betting on Tyson vs AJ

You'll be putting your life's work on him if it ever happens then?

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 15:59**

it was a life and death struggle tbf. josh was looking gone and prob lost 4 straight rounds in the middle. hed still ko fury though. a peak fury that is. easy work on the tub of lard. no chance fury, if he comes back, will he at his best. and:

'his best wasnt good enough'

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 16:02**

samwbr wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:54
wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:52
samwbr wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:48

Facts are things that have actually happened.
the facts are there. They have a common opponent.
Fury schooled (younger) Wlad.
(older) Wlad and AJ was a life and death fight.
Fury schools AJ.
The math is easy on this one...
You know (or should) that's not how it goes.

Joshua knocked Klitschko out, Fury barely landed a meaningful blow.

(older) Wlad had Joshua in big trouble, (younger) Wlad didn't land a meaningful blow on Fury.
in boxing you don't have to knock someone out to win a fight...

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 16:03**

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:02
samwbr wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:54
wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:52
the facts are there. They have a common opponent.
Fury schooled (younger) Wlad.
(older) Wlad and AJ was a life and death fight.
Fury schools AJ.
The math is easy on this one...
You know (or should) that's not how it goes.

Joshua knocked Klitschko out, Fury barely landed a meaningful blow.
(older) Wlad had Joshua in big trouble, (younger) Wlad didn't land a meaningful blow on Fury.
in boxing you don't have to knock someone out to win a fight...

Wlad didn't throw a meaningful blow at Fury

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 16:04**

low output, ultra cautious wlad was perfect for fury to fiddle around with. a guy like wlad has serious power but hes so hesistant that hes beatable with a few punches a round style. thats not getting it done against a bulldozer like aj.

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 16:06**

jamamb wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:04 low output, ultra cautious wlad was perfect for fury to fiddle around with. a guy like wlad has serious power but hes so hesistant that hes beatable with a few punches a round style. thats not getting it done against a bulldozer like aj.

Fury made Wlad "low output and ultra cautious" and Fury would make the more inexperienced AJ exactly the same way...

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 16:06**

wlad was low output and cautious for the better part of the last 15 years

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 16:07**

jamamb wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:06 wlad was low output and cautious for the better part of the last 15 years

until he met AJ...

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 16:09**

yep, because aj hurt him worse than anyone had in years and it drew the fight out of him. but aj took wlad's best, and wlad hits very hard, and got up to win.

fury doesnt have half of wlads power and fiddling around with jabs and feints isnt going to freeze aj in the way it did super cautious wlad. joshua simply doesnt have the make up to be seriously rattled by it. hell wlad was even ultra negative vs guys like ibragimov. since he changed his style from his early aggressive days its only when hes been hurt that hes shown some animal.

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 16:13**

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:06
jamamb wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:04 low output, ultra cautious wlad was perfect for fury to fiddle around with. a guy like wlad has serious power but hes so hesistant that hes beatable with a few punches a round style. thats not getting it done against a bulldozer like aj.
Fury made Wlad "low output and ultra cautious" and Fury would make the more inexperienced AJ exactly the same way...

Bullsh*t

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 16:16**

samwbr wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:56
Oiky wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:54 Even tho the triangle theory doesn't work in boxing/fighting

It's still safe money betting on Tyson vs AJ
You'll be putting your life's work on him if it ever happens then?

Who said life's work

Just saying it's safe money whatever one should decide to bet

Posted: **09 Nov 2017, 16:19**

Oiky wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:16
samwbr wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:56
Oiky wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 15:54 Even tho the triangle theory doesn't work in boxing/fighting

It's still safe money betting on Tyson vs AJ
You'll be putting your life's work on him if it ever happens then?
Who said life's work

Just saying it's safe money whatever one should decide to bet

Brits with Tyson Fury are like Americans with Guns. Complete asshats

Fury wouldn't win a round against Joshua. 2 years ago he'd have been knocked out too, but at least he'd have made a contest out of it, now he'd just be a punching bag.

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