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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 13:15
by Ruthless-RKO
getnada wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 12:49 I was surprised to see in how a good shape Stiverne was, he hasn't been in this good shape at any moment in his life, did he take doping again?
He was in shape?

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 13:16
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 13:15
getnada wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 12:49 I was surprised to see in how a good shape Stiverne was, he hasn't been in this good shape at any moment in his life, did he take doping again?
He was in shape?
Round is a shape! :maybe:

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 13:29
by greg
..Stiverne was 20 pounds heavier than usual and with all due respect looked more like a punching bag..should seriously consider hanging them up for good before it's too late..

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 13:31
by oogiebe
greg wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 13:29 ..Stiverne was 20 pounds heavier than usual and with all due respect looked more like a punching bag..should seriously consider hanging them up for good before it's too late..
How he talked his way into this fight, or any other, is beyond me.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 13:46
by JxhDel.
Stiverne was a walking punching-ball but still managed to get some shots on that robot called Joe Joyce. He should take this last check and hang it up, while Joyce... he will need lots of luck against top guys

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 13:47
by oogiebe
JxhDel. wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 13:46 Stiverne was a walking punching-ball but still managed to get some shots on that robot called Joe Joyce. He should take this last check and hang it up, while Joyce... he will need lots of luck against top guys
Yup!

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 15:06
by TheBeast
Image

Saturday 23, February 2019
O2 Arena, Greenwich, London, United Kingdom
promoter Poxon Sports - Richard Poxon


Joe Joyce 7 0 0
vs
Bermane Stiverne 25 3 1
Commonwealth (British Empire) Heavyweight Title

Joyce won by 6th round TKO




Stiverne didn't have the stamina to go the distance



FULL CARD HIGHLIGHTS and VIDEO HERE:
https://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/vie ... 9&start=25


ENJOY!! :TU:

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 15:23
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 13:31
greg wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 13:29 ..Stiverne was 20 pounds heavier than usual and with all due respect looked more like a punching bag..should seriously consider hanging them up for good before it's too late..
How he talked his way into this fight, or any other, is beyond me.
He must be kicking himself this morning. That was a winnable fight.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 15:35
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 15:23
oogiebe wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 13:31
greg wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 13:29 ..Stiverne was 20 pounds heavier than usual and with all due respect looked more like a punching bag..should seriously consider hanging them up for good before it's too late..
How he talked his way into this fight, or any other, is beyond me.
He must be kicking himself this morning. That was a winnable fight.
Totally agree. While I was watching (particularly the first round) I was like, man if this dude took this fight seriously he may have been able to win. He was landing that overhand right and left hook counter all round. Dumbass.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 19:23
by Lackeos
gilgamesh wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 23:40 Stiverne on his worst day is still better than any Charr I've ever seen personally. So it's more of a comment on how sh*tty Charr is than Stiverne being some great test.
Stiverne on his worst day threw 4 punches and landed 0.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 19:32
by jamamb
wud anyone here pick charr over joyce?

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 19:48
by Onetimeonly
jamamb wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 19:32 wud anyone here pick charr over joyce?
No, he'll win that easy. Hunter would kick his ass.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 20:59
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 19:48
jamamb wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 19:32 wud anyone here pick charr over joyce?
No, he'll win that easy. Hunter would kick his ass.
:TU:

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 00:01
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 12:34
Onetimeonly wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 12:31
tiny_acres wrote: 17 Jan 2019, 21:44 Stiverne is shot to bits. If this takes over 2 rounds for Joyce I'll be questioning if he is a possible contender or not
I don't ever see Joyce as a serious contender. Shockingly slow hands.
Why? Just because he's painfully slow and wide open? It won't be this fight, but as soon as Joyce fights a decent boxer, he'll be exposed for what he is. A slower version of Big John Tate.
That's an insult to Tate.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 00:09
by ClivePatrickLyons
Hearn just found AJ next opponent Joe :lol:

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 00:10
by jamamb
ClivePatrickLyons wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 00:09 Hearn just found AJ next opponent Joe :lol:
lol ya, because the sh!tty challengers like cojanu and washington all fought aj instead of one of the other champs :lol:

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 03:11
by Best Coast
ewenhay wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 05:59 The only reason Charr ever gets mentioned is due to the minor strap he holds and that's the same reason Joyce would want to fight him.
Charr is nothing more than a paper champion. So far no 2016 Olympian has won a major world title as a pro. If Joyce faces and defeats a mediocre scrub like Charr he should NOT be recognized as the first 2016 Olympic boxer to win a major world pro title because Charr is not a legit world champ.

The first 2012 Olympian to win a major world title as a pro was Lomachenko, followed by Usyk, AJ and Oscar Valdez.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 07:55
by Eolaithe
Best Coast wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 03:11So far no 2016 Olympian has won a major world title as a pro...
Murodjon Akhmadaliev could become the first 2016 Olympic medallist to become a world champion in the pro ranks, because I’m led to believe the winner of the WBA-IBF super bantamweight title unification bout (between Daniel Roman and TJ Doheny) will be obliged to perform a mandatory defence of their WBA title against the Uzbekistani youngster.

In my opinion, Shakur Stevenson is probably the next most likely 2016 Olympian to become a world champion in the pro ranks, closely followed by Joshua Buatsi and Shakhram Giyasov.

I am supremely confident that Joe Joyce will never become a legitimate world champion by capturing a title from one of the big four governing bodies. The Brit’s handlers may be able to strategically manoeuvre his career towards gaining a secondary title by cherry-picking a highly-vulnerable opponent though.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 23:00
by Best Coast
Eolaithe wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 07:55
Best Coast wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 03:11So far no 2016 Olympian has won a major world title as a pro...
Murodjon Akhmadaliev could become the first 2016 Olympic medallist to become a world champion in the pro ranks, because I’m led to believe the winner of the WBA-IBF super bantamweight title unification bout (between Daniel Roman and TJ Doheny) will be obliged to perform a mandatory defence of their WBA title against the Uzbekistani youngster.

In my opinion, Shakur Stevenson is probably the next most likely 2016 Olympian to become a world champion in the pro ranks, closely followed by Joshua Buatsi and Shakhram Giyasov.

I am supremely confident that Joe Joyce will never become a legitimate world champion by capturing a title from one of the big four governing bodies. The Brit’s handlers may be able to strategically manoeuvre his career towards gaining a secondary title by cherry-picking a highly-vulnerable opponent though.
Glad you agree that Joyce will not be considered a major world champ in the pros if he cherry-picks a paper champ like mediocre Manuel Charr.

As far as Akhmadaliev, he could become the first 2016 Olympian (not just Olympic medalist) to win a major world title as a pro. To the best of my knowledge NO 2016 Olympic boxer has won a major world pro title so far.

Correct me if I am wrong but so far the only 2 Olympic boxers from 2016 Games to fight to world titles have been Mikhail Aloyan and Paddy Barnes, who both came up short.


I agree that Stevenson, Giyasov and Buatsi (along with Teo Lopez & Akhmadaliev) could well become the first 2016 OG fighters to win a pro world belt.

Last I heard Akhmadaliev vs WBA super bantam champ Daniel Roman was supposed to go to purse bids on Feb 13. Any idea how that turned out?

https://fightnews.com/wba-postpones-purse-bids/38993
The WBA Champions Committee has postponed the three purse bids that were happening February 6th, they are rescheduled to February 13th. The bids will be made on the following bouts: Daniel Roman vs Murdjon Akmadiev for the super bantamweight title

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 05:29
by Eolaithe
Best Coast wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 23:00Last I heard Akhmadaliev vs WBA super bantam champ Daniel Roman was supposed to go to purse bids on Feb 13. Any idea how that turned out?

https://fightnews.com/wba-postpones-purse-bids/38993
The WBA Champions Committee has postponed the three purse bids that were happening February 6th, they are rescheduled to February 13th. The bids will be made on the following bouts: Daniel Roman vs Murdjon Akmadiev for the super bantamweight title
On the 6th February, the WBA approved the WBA-IBF super bantamweight title unification bout between Daniel Roman and TJ Doheny.

Four days ago, it was claimed that the bout between Daniel Roman and TJ Doheny will take place on the 26th April, as a co-feature to the main event (Sor Rungvisai-Estrada II).

The WBA have said that the winner will be obliged to make a WBA title defence against mandatory challenger Murodjon Akhmadaliev.

I also believe you’re right about there not being any 2016 Olympian having won a major world title as a pro. :TU:

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 13:55
by Syntax Error
getnada wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 12:49 I was surprised to see in how a good shape Stiverne was, he hasn't been in this good shape at any moment in his life, did he take doping again?
What do you mean by shape?

If you mean dumpling shaped, then fair enough.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 13:57
by oogiebe
Syntax Error wrote: 26 Feb 2019, 13:55
getnada wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 12:49 I was surprised to see in how a good shape Stiverne was, he hasn't been in this good shape at any moment in his life, did he take doping again?
What do you mean by shape?

If you mean dumpling shaped, then fair enough.
Round is a shape! I'm guessing the poster was being sarcastic.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 13:59
by Syntax Error
oogiebe wrote: 26 Feb 2019, 13:57
Syntax Error wrote: 26 Feb 2019, 13:55
getnada wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 12:49 I was surprised to see in how a good shape Stiverne was, he hasn't been in this good shape at any moment in his life, did he take doping again?
What do you mean by shape?

If you mean dumpling shaped, then fair enough.
Round is a shape! I'm guessing the poster was being sarcastic.
🤣🤣 :TU:

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 17:42
by candyslim
oogiebe wrote: 26 Feb 2019, 13:57
Syntax Error wrote: 26 Feb 2019, 13:55
getnada wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 12:49 I was surprised to see in how a good shape Stiverne was, he hasn't been in this good shape at any moment in his life, did he take doping again?
What do you mean by shape?

If you mean dumpling shaped, then fair enough.
Round is a shape! I'm guessing the poster was being sarcastic.
You can't always tell. This poster frequently tends to have his own unique take on reality. That's not necessarily a bad thing of course, it's good to get a different perspective from another planet.

Stiverne didn't look like he did much more than walk past the gym but he came to fight and took his lumps like a warrior. He has earned back some respect from me, but he should hang 'em up now.

Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - February 23, 2019

Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 17:44
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: 26 Feb 2019, 17:42
oogiebe wrote: 26 Feb 2019, 13:57
Syntax Error wrote: 26 Feb 2019, 13:55
getnada wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 12:49 I was surprised to see in how a good shape Stiverne was, he hasn't been in this good shape at any moment in his life, did he take doping again?
What do you mean by shape?

If you mean dumpling shaped, then fair enough.
Round is a shape! I'm guessing the poster was being sarcastic.
You can't always tell. This poster frequently tends to have his own unique take on reality. That's not necessarily a bad thing of course, it's good to get a different perspective from another planet.

Stiverne didn't look like he did much more than walk past the gym but he came to fight and took his lumps like a warrior. He has earned back some respect from me, but he should hang 'em up now.
He should fight Curtis Parker and then they can walk out of the ring together after the opening bell. A fitting goodbye to both! :OhYes: