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Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 06 Feb 2021, 20:18
by mickey1975
The problem is Kinahan is about fifty levels above Essex Boys and Krays.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 06 Feb 2021, 23:37
by SticknMove
mickey1975 wrote: 06 Feb 2021, 20:18 The problem is Kinahan is about fifty levels above Essex Boys and Krays.
Which is why he kept in place.....The eastern euros would take over otherwise......

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 05:32
by Alba
mickey1975 wrote: 06 Feb 2021, 20:18 The problem is Kinahan is about fifty levels above Essex Boys and Krays.
So if the Essex Boys and that were levels above the Kinahan, that wouldbe be a problem?

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 05:39
by mickey1975
Alba wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 05:32
mickey1975 wrote: 06 Feb 2021, 20:18 The problem is Kinahan is about fifty levels above Essex Boys and Krays.
So if the Essex Boys and that were levels above the Kinahan, that wouldbe be a problem?
They’re already a problem, about 30 books and films on the clowns...

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 05:42
by Steveh583
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Feb 2021, 18:07 LEAVE MURDERING DRUG KINGPINS ALONE!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: The kray twins were lovely boys, you could leave your door unlocked with them around. They loved their dear mum, only killed their own, and only occasionally bummed hetrosexual men unconsentually. :lol: :lol:

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 05:58
by handsofstone
If you were to take Gilbert Mendoza, Mauricio Sulaiman and Daniel Kinahan and you had to rid 2 of them for boxing forever, I'd keep Kinahan

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 06:51
by Stevieaber
There’s a good few connected to boxing who could do with being swept aside. Maybe now it can be seen now low the sport has stooped it will force a major look at other aspects of the sport.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 07:44
by Nightmare Roy
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Feb 2021, 18:07 LEAVE MURDERING DRUG KINGPINS ALONE!!
The world has gone into WOKE overload, every one getting cancelled these days.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 08:52
by Stevieaber
I don’t really think that Woke applies to this. The programme wasn’t about people being outraged about social media comments, it was about murder, gun running and industrial level class A supply.
If you think it’s about people being upset over name calling, or struggling to appear “right on” you’ve missed the whole point.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 08:58
by GreenLightning
brilo33 wrote: 06 Feb 2021, 19:57
GreenLightning wrote: 06 Feb 2021, 19:41
brilo33 wrote: 06 Feb 2021, 12:21 whats the end game with this though, i mean is boxing going to go after,ever dirty dollar pound note going to be retraced back to only good gotten gain , or is it the shades have a real hard on for mgm and it is personal , everyone keeps quiet and hopes the s... dont hit there fan, so is boxing now just going to be a sport run by only elitist bussiness now , who did there dirty bidding further back before internet,maybe it is a great time for all boxers to be allowed to cut ties with promoters and it be comes a sport run by the government, how much money has the goverment been putting in to boxing clubs during the last year .
The game is to end the legitimisation of one of the worst drug dealing criminal murderers in Europe, If Kinahan didn't want this kind of attention, he shouldn't have been sending dozens of hitmen out on the streets of several different countries in Europe to conduct a massacre, the level of violence perpetrated by these guys and the fact they load neighbourhoods with Heroin just cannot be swept under the rug

Saudi Money shouldn't be taken either, but Kinahans control of boxing is something that cannot be allowed to grow

I would rather Irish boxing died than be "saved" by Kinahan blood money

Think about how much publicity the Range Rover murders got in England, 3 guys killed, the Krays killed something like 2 people? The Kinahans have killed dozens of people in these fashions
not being funny but how could any boxing club in the east end avoid the krays, how could any business in london from the 60s ,on wards avoid being taxed or being rolled by gangsters in london , unless you where old bill, or bigger gangsters you were paying some one, no doubt about it, so is it just a time thing then, and i will say this now i aint talking up the criminality its just it tentacles are so deep rooted , only way to stop it is go amuture take money out the game

I'm not saying they could have avoided it I'm saying the deal with the Kinahans is they are 100 times worse

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 08:59
by GreenLightning
Stevieaber wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 08:52 I don’t really think that Woke applies to this. The programme wasn’t about people being outraged about social media comments, it was about murder, gun running and industrial level class A supply.
If you think it’s about people being upset over name calling, or struggling to appear “right on” you’ve missed the whole point.
Think hes being sarcastic about the people defending Kinahan

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 09:02
by GreenLightning
Shhhh wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 04:18 When I was a kid I thought gangsters looked great because of films. But they're basically just bullies and nasty bugers
The Sopranos writer Davd Chase was getting worried that the fans of the show were starting to see the gangsters as a comedy act more than sinister murderers, so he deliberately added the scene of Ralphie beating his pregnant girlfriend to death just as a reminder to the audience what kind of people these are

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 09:43
by Stevieaber
Braquo too if you don’t mind French subtitles.

Daniel Kinahan Statement Talksport 10am tomorrow

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 10:01
by SAPFO
A personal statement from the man who is a huge influence in the game tomorrow on the 10am show.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 10:40
by Oiky
Shhhh wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 09:37
GreenLightning wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 09:02
Shhhh wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 04:18 When I was a kid I thought gangsters looked great because of films. But they're basically just bullies and nasty bugers
The Sopranos writer Davd Chase was getting worried that the fans of the show were starting to see the gangsters as a comedy act more than sinister murderers, so he deliberately added the scene of Ralphie beating his pregnant girlfriend to death just as a reminder to the audience what kind of people these are
Yeah I remember that. A great series that. Also there's an Italian series called Gomorrah which is really quite dark. Top characters just get whacked like suddenly
Gomorrah's proper :TU: working on series5 now I think

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 10:50
by smiling assassin
Oiky wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 10:40
Shhhh wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 09:37
GreenLightning wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 09:02

The Sopranos writer Davd Chase was getting worried that the fans of the show were starting to see the gangsters as a comedy act more than sinister murderers, so he deliberately added the scene of Ralphie beating his pregnant girlfriend to death just as a reminder to the audience what kind of people these are
Yeah I remember that. A great series that. Also there's an Italian series called Gomorrah which is really quite dark. Top characters just get whacked like suddenly
Gomorrah's proper :TU: working on series5 now I think
Where can I find this boys is it on Netflix?

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 10:55
by Oiky
smiling assassin wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 10:50
Oiky wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 10:40
Shhhh wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 09:37
Yeah I remember that. A great series that. Also there's an Italian series called Gomorrah which is really quite dark. Top characters just get whacked like suddenly
Gomorrah's proper :TU: working on series5 now I think
Where can I find this boys is it on Netflix?
Not on netflix,you'll get it on Amazon prime i think though

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 11:01
by TheLeprechaun
Oiky wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 10:40
Shhhh wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 09:37
GreenLightning wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 09:02

The Sopranos writer Davd Chase was getting worried that the fans of the show were starting to see the gangsters as a comedy act more than sinister murderers, so he deliberately added the scene of Ralphie beating his pregnant girlfriend to death just as a reminder to the audience what kind of people these are
Yeah I remember that. A great series that. Also there's an Italian series called Gomorrah which is really quite dark. Top characters just get whacked like suddenly
Gomorrah's proper :TU: working on series5 now I think
When that song at the end hits, you just know someone is about to get popped.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 11:06
by smiling assassin
Oiky wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 10:55
smiling assassin wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 10:50
Oiky wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 10:40
Gomorrah's proper :TU: working on series5 now I think
Where can I find this boys is it on Netflix?
Not on netflix,you'll get it on Amazon prime i think though
Ta mate il good that a watch :TU:

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 11:09
by handsofstone
TheLeprechaun wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 11:01
Oiky wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 10:40
Shhhh wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 09:37
Yeah I remember that. A great series that. Also there's an Italian series called Gomorrah which is really quite dark. Top characters just get whacked like suddenly
Gomorrah's proper :TU: working on series5 now I think
When that song at the end hits, you just know someone is about to get popped.
I just watched The Immortal last night, the spin off film set inbetween series 3+4, that was good as well

Re: Daniel Kinahan Statement Talksport 10am tomorrow

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 12:18
by coghaugen11
Why give him the satisfaction?

Re: Daniel Kinahan Statement Talksport 10am tomorrow

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 12:19
by Stevieaber
Get ready for a bland statement about how he’s not connected to MTK any more combined with a bit of spiel about how the fighters he advises love him.
Nothing about his activities outside boxing except possibly a quick “ive never been convicted of anything” and certainly nothing about where all the money has come from.

Re: Daniel Kinahan Statement Talksport 10am tomorrow

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 12:23
by Stevieaber
Something like that! Just paraphrasing what his minions have been trying to peddle.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 13:55
by johnty1888
LOVE/HATE takes some beating as well.

Small time Dublin gangsters go big

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 07 Feb 2021, 13:58
by Rockytony67
johnty1888 wrote: 07 Feb 2021, 13:55 LOVE/HATE takes some beating as well.

Small time Dublin gangsters go big
Yes it's very good :TU: