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Posted: **29 Nov 2025, 17:58**

Terry O'Connor scoring he has Joe Frazier 15 rounds up

Posted: **29 Nov 2025, 18:02**

A refreshingly honest post fight interview from TKV

Decent fight. Hard to see where big Fraze goes now.

Posted: **29 Nov 2025, 18:54**

As a forum we alllll (nearly) got this wrong.

Posted: **29 Nov 2025, 19:22**

gregregegg wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025, 18:54 As a forum we alllll (nearly) got this wrong.

I think a pre Wardley Clarke would have won easily enough

Posted: **29 Nov 2025, 19:29**

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025, 18:02 A refreshingly honest post fight interview from TKV

Decent fight. Hard to see where big Fraze goes now.

Refreshingly honest? The guy was being a classless prick.

Posted: **29 Nov 2025, 20:36**

Gnome wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025, 19:29
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025, 18:02 A refreshingly honest post fight interview from TKV

Decent fight. Hard to see where big Fraze goes now.
Refreshingly honest? The guy was being a classless prick.

That was my point but imo he didn’t go too far

You can respect somebody for having shared the ring with you without blowing smoke up his arse

Posted: **29 Nov 2025, 22:02**

Shades of Ali the way TKV was movin'.

Kash.

Posted: **29 Nov 2025, 23:29**

Frazer the Eraser embarassed himself there

Posted: **30 Nov 2025, 01:32**

Proper chips and gravy scrap and neither going any higher than British level, which is a genuine achievement for most but a letdown for Big Fraze. He's got the personality to be a star but not the skills or stamina to back it up unfortunately.

The only chance he's got is if Terry O'Connor takes out a promoter's licence.

Posted: **30 Nov 2025, 04:17**

Coco wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025, 19:22
gregregegg wrote: ↑29 Nov 2025, 18:54 As a forum we alllll (nearly) got this wrong.
I think a pre Wardley Clarke would have won easily enough

Yeah, hard to accept that Frazer isn't even going to be British champ.
When he turned pro I thought he would make it to world contender level.

Posted: **30 Nov 2025, 05:05**

Disgraceful stamina on show by Clarke. It's bad to come into a contest in that shape.

Posted: **30 Nov 2025, 05:24**

Scrappy fight that was entertaining enough between two limited fighters.

Posted: **30 Nov 2025, 07:15**

Frazer Clarke was terrible. Barely using the jab and completely lacking any spark for more than a few seconds at a time.

Big Joe joyce caught tons of flack for his cumbersome style, but Clarke often looks like he's moving in treacle and in terms of achievement/success there's no comparison.

At no stage of his career would Clarke ever have been able to compete with, for example, Daniel Dubois. Let alone bludgeoning DDD to defeat in a British, Commonwealth & European title showdown.

Posted: **30 Nov 2025, 12:19**

Don't forget Frazer had to stay amateur for three cycles to get his Olympic place. If he was that good he'd have gone ahead of AJ and Joyce.

Posted: **30 Nov 2025, 14:41**

Exactly, he wasn't anywhere near as good as either Joyce or AJ.

Coco's right. Post-Wardley it's all over for Clarke. Losing to TKV is catastrophic for his career.

Posted: **30 Nov 2025, 19:17**

We had no amazing heavyweights in the amateur system or the one standout who overachieved (Audley). We had three at the same time: I would love to know how any rounds they sparred each other. Especially Joyce who was a renowned hard sparrer. Probably all damaged each other with hard sparring. Joyce especially looked a million dollars in the amateurs. Joyce and Clarke deterioted real quick and that temple shot AJ took from Ruiz changed the trajectory of his career. Iron sharpens iron but I think they took years off each others pro career

Posted: **01 Dec 2025, 05:04**

PredatorHayds wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025, 19:17 We had no amazing heavyweights in the amateur system or the one standout who overachieved (Audley). We had three at the same time: I would love to know how any rounds they sparred each other. Especially Joyce who was a renowned hard sparrer. Probably all damaged each other with hard sparring. Joyce especially looked a million dollars in the amateurs. Joyce and Clarke deterioted real quick and that temple shot AJ took from Ruiz changed the trajectory of his career. Iron sharpens iron but I think they took years off each others pro career

And whilst they were killing each other in Sheffield, Fury was beating Wlad in Germany in his mid 20's...

Posted: **01 Dec 2025, 05:23**

PredatorHayds wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025, 19:17 We had no amazing heavyweights in the amateur system or the one standout who overachieved (Audley). We had three at the same time: I would love to know how any rounds they sparred each other. Especially Joyce who was a renowned hard sparrer. Probably all damaged each other with hard sparring. Joyce especially looked a million dollars in the amateurs. Joyce and Clarke deterioted real quick and that temple shot AJ took from Ruiz changed the trajectory of his career. Iron sharpens iron but I think they took years off each others pro career

Completely agree with this. At least Joyce has probably earned some good money. I’m not sure Clarke will have. Certainly not life altering money anyway.

Posted: **01 Dec 2025, 05:55**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025, 05:04
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025, 19:17 We had no amazing heavyweights in the amateur system or the one standout who overachieved (Audley). We had three at the same time: I would love to know how any rounds they sparred each other. Especially Joyce who was a renowned hard sparrer. Probably all damaged each other with hard sparring. Joyce especially looked a million dollars in the amateurs. Joyce and Clarke deterioted real quick and that temple shot AJ took from Ruiz changed the trajectory of his career. Iron sharpens iron but I think they took years off each others pro career
And whilst they were killing each other in Sheffield, Fury was beating Wlad in Germany in his mid 20's...

Posted: **01 Dec 2025, 06:19**

a force wrote: ↑01 Dec 2025, 05:23
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025, 19:17 We had no amazing heavyweights in the amateur system or the one standout who overachieved (Audley). We had three at the same time: I would love to know how any rounds they sparred each other. Especially Joyce who was a renowned hard sparrer. Probably all damaged each other with hard sparring. Joyce especially looked a million dollars in the amateurs. Joyce and Clarke deterioted real quick and that temple shot AJ took from Ruiz changed the trajectory of his career. Iron sharpens iron but I think they took years off each others pro career
Completely agree with this. At least Joyce has probably earned some good money. I’m not sure Clarke will have. Certainly not life altering money anyway.

You are on over a grand a week with the ams in the elite set up, like 70k a year
He probably got a big signing on fee too.
If he has been sensible with his money he should be ok

Posted: **02 Dec 2025, 20:30**

I'd take Clarke or TKV over Richard Torrez.

Posted: **02 Dec 2025, 22:07**

goose 5 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2025, 20:30 I'd take Clarke or TKV over Richard Torrez.

really? i think ricky would kick their butts without a problem

torrez victim guido v would beat both too

heck, im wondering if they could both get through brandon moore

Posted: **10 Dec 2025, 07:38**

Anyone got any viewer figures for this?

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