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Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 14:13 That's what that saad guy always said. Funny how Duran always struggled so much when the other guy boxed.

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 08:16 I expected you to be less reactive. Sounds like one of your points here is that that Duran lacked boxing skills. Odd observation. I don’t agree at all. I do think he was far less calculating about his career, and could be more impulsive, and fall victim to his emotions. This played out in his ups and downs. Which was my point about srl. His gift was his level headed consistency. Give Duran that gift and he outperforms Ray. As he did in their first encounter. Ray was one of the most stable and poised fighters in history. And “good” and “better” are quite subjective.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 10:38 Fighting the wrong type of fight is not an excuse for Leonard. It is a criticism. It's his own fault. He would be ranked higher had he he fought a smart fight the first time. That's on him.

If you watch the first fight, it's plain as day that Leonard used very little movement, and constantly went right at Duran. He was smart enough not to do that in the second fight and had more success. When Benitez fought Duran, he outboxed Duran as well. Even Viruet could have got a decision over Duran by boxing. If you had a lot of boxing ability, that is the way to go against Duran.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 15:39 That really doesn't make sense.
He went 15 rounds standing right in front of Duran. By being a moving target and getting hit less he would be even less likely to get stopped.
When he moved in the second fight, he outclassed Duran. Duran couldn't box with Benitez either.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 18:30

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 15:39 That really doesn't make sense.
He went 15 rounds standing right in front of Duran. By being a moving target and getting hit less he would be even less likely to get stopped.
When he moved in the second fight, he outclassed Duran. Duran couldn't box with Benitez either.

He had no time to move. He had to stand his ground. Not to mention Padilla let Duran maul as he pleased. In the second he got rocked at a distance. That was the best Duran ever was and it was too much. One of rays best performances.

Duran1970 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 19:33

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 18:30
He had no time to move. He had to stand his ground. Not to mention Padilla let Duran maul as he pleased. In the second he got rocked at a distance. That was the best Duran ever was and it was too much. One of rays best performances.

More comedy....this is good stuff

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 18:30

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 15:39 That really doesn't make sense.
He went 15 rounds standing right in front of Duran. By being a moving target and getting hit less he would be even less likely to get stopped.
When he moved in the second fight, he outclassed Duran. Duran couldn't box with Benitez either.

He had no time to move. He had to stand his ground. Not to mention Padilla let Duran maul as he pleased. In the second he got rocked at a distance. That was the best Duran ever was and it was too much. One of rays best performances.

Duran1970 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 17:03 This just keeps getting more hilarious...

Duran1970 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 17:06 Yes Alp, we're all aware Benitez beat Duran....it's only , I don't know, maybe the 98th time you said it?

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 10:43

Duran1970 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 17:06 Yes Alp, we're all aware Benitez beat Duran....it's only , I don't know, maybe the 98th time you said it?

I wasn't counting. Has anyone ever mentioned that Duran was a lightweight?

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 10:36

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 18:30
He had no time to move. He had to stand his ground. Not to mention Padilla let Duran maul as he pleased. In the second he got rocked at a distance. That was the best Duran ever was and it was too much. One of rays best performances.

No chance to move. Come on.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 21:41

Duran1970 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 19:33
More comedy....this is good stuff

What's so funny honey?

Duran1970 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 15:26

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Sep 2019, 21:41

What's so funny honey?

My bad OTO....I misunderstood the post..I do agree with that assessment