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Coco wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 08:51 The consensus on here has been that Fury is scared and shit, you can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth

tonyevs wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 07:08

Ezzard wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 05:16

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023, 21:59 People forget that Tyson Fury has always been a showman and more of a pro wrestler with his mindset instead of a boxer much like Muhammad Ali.

Nowadays people would tell you that Muhammad Ali was the most beloved sporting icon in history but for most of his career that was not true because he talked so much crap that you had half the world cheering whenever he lost.

And the antics were even worse when the fights were a hard sell. And even when the fights were not a hard sell Ali would do outrageous things like pulling a gun out in Manila firing blanks at Joe Frazier's apartment. He could be a downright aggravating prick and a half.

It's these kind of things that ultimately had people rattled, and Fury does it all for the same reasons. Not only to gain a psychological edge but to also draw more interest to the fights. And how can you sell a match between two baby faces? You can't. Not really.

Somebody has to be the bad guy. Somebody has to make the noise. Somebody has to put the butts in the seats. You can pretty much guarantee all of these antics over the passed 2 weeks probably created 50,000 ticket buyers easily.

Agree.

But it would have sold at least 44,500 of those seats to the gypsy/traveller community alone we were reliably informed even before the Fury Instagram meltdowns.

Fury clearly been talked to. The Simon Jordan rant served no benefit to ticket sales .. but of course the pro-Fury fans not see that.

Coco wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 08:51 The consensus on here has been that Fury is scared and shit, you can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth

emallini wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 10:06 Social media comments never translate to real life. Fury will have absolutely massive support in Wembley if this happens.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 09:22

tonyevs wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 07:08

Ezzard wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 05:16

Agree.

But it would have sold at least 44,500 of those seats to the gypsy/traveller community alone we were reliably informed even before the Fury Instagram meltdowns.

Fury clearly been talked to. The Simon Jordan rant served no benefit to ticket sales .. but of course the pro-Fury fans not see that.

Trust me, Tony, they are nearly all going to Fury fans. I would put my life on that.

1194265 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 14:35

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 09:22

tonyevs wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 07:08

But it would have sold at least 44,500 of those seats to the gypsy/traveller community alone we were reliably informed even before the Fury Instagram meltdowns.

Fury clearly been talked to. The Simon Jordan rant served no benefit to ticket sales .. but of course the pro-Fury fans not see that.

Trust me, Tony, they are nearly all going to Fury fans. I would put my life on that.

Just out of interest, does Henry Wharton go to Fury's fights?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 14:57

1194265 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 14:35

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 09:22
Trust me, Tony, they are nearly all going to Fury fans. I would put my life on that.

Just out of interest, does Henry Wharton go to Fury's fights?

No.

The Docker wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 15:10

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 14:57

1194265 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 14:35

Just out of interest, does Henry Wharton go to Fury's fights?

No.

Yeah feel that is a really valid question. We know the travelling community are pretty much unparalleled in support of their boxers. Do pro boxers of a travelling heritage not follow likewise pro boxers of a travelling heritage?

tonyevs wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 07:08

Ezzard wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 05:16

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023, 21:59 People forget that Tyson Fury has always been a showman and more of a pro wrestler with his mindset instead of a boxer much like Muhammad Ali.

Nowadays people would tell you that Muhammad Ali was the most beloved sporting icon in history but for most of his career that was not true because he talked so much crap that you had half the world cheering whenever he lost.

And the antics were even worse when the fights were a hard sell. And even when the fights were not a hard sell Ali would do outrageous things like pulling a gun out in Manila firing blanks at Joe Frazier's apartment. He could be a downright aggravating prick and a half.

It's these kind of things that ultimately had people rattled, and Fury does it all for the same reasons. Not only to gain a psychological edge but to also draw more interest to the fights. And how can you sell a match between two baby faces? You can't. Not really.

Somebody has to be the bad guy. Somebody has to make the noise. Somebody has to put the butts in the seats. You can pretty much guarantee all of these antics over the passed 2 weeks probably created 50,000 ticket buyers easily.

Agree.

But it would have sold at least 44,500 of those seats to the gypsy/traveller community alone we were reliably informed even before the Fury Instagram meltdowns.

Fury clearly been talked to. The Simon Jordan rant served no benefit to ticket sales .. but of course the pro-Fury fans not see that.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 15:49

The Docker wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 15:10

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 14:57
No.

Yeah feel that is a really valid question. We know the travelling community are pretty much unparalleled in support of their boxers. Do pro boxers of a travelling heritage not follow likewise pro boxers of a travelling heritage?

Henry isn’t immersed in the traveller culture. His closet friends aren’t from it. He wouldn’t go to any show unless he has a vested interest in it. He’d go to golf. My other ex pro friends Wilson, Robshaws, James, Lowther etc will undoubtedly be there, along with all their ‘clans’. Hopey Price and his brothers Ellis and Morales will 100% be there with the younger generation. Henry will watch it in a pub in York probably playing dominoes or pool. He’s not what you might imagine.

The Docker wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 16:43

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 15:49

The Docker wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 15:10
Yeah feel that is a really valid question. We know the travelling community are pretty much unparalleled in support of their boxers. Do pro boxers of a travelling heritage not follow likewise pro boxers of a travelling heritage?

Henry isn’t immersed in the traveller culture. His closet friends aren’t from it. He wouldn’t go to any show unless he has a vested interest in it. He’d go to golf. My other ex pro friends Wilson, Robshaws, James, Lowther etc will undoubtedly be there, along with all their ‘clans’. Hopey Price and his brothers Ellis and Morales will 100% be there with the younger generation. Henry will watch it in a pub in York probably playing dominoes or pool. He’s not what you might imagine.

Ah, great, thanks for the insight Mickey. So as a consensus, the travelling community will follow any travelling heritage boxer irrespective of clan prejudice. Cheers.

1194265 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 16:39

tonyevs wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 07:08

Ezzard wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 05:16

Agree.

But it would have sold at least 44,500 of those seats to the gypsy/traveller community alone we were reliably informed even before the Fury Instagram meltdowns.

Fury clearly been talked to. The Simon Jordan rant served no benefit to ticket sales .. but of course the pro-Fury fans not see that.

There are 300,000 gypsies in the whole of the UK and you think 44,500 of them will be going to the fight?

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 16:48

1194265 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 16:39

tonyevs wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 07:08

But it would have sold at least 44,500 of those seats to the gypsy/traveller community alone we were reliably informed even before the Fury Instagram meltdowns.

Fury clearly been talked to. The Simon Jordan rant served no benefit to ticket sales .. but of course the pro-Fury fans not see that.

There are 300,000 gypsies in the whole of the UK and you think 44,500 of them will be going to the fight?

But there's probably a few million wannabe gypsies just like Minicabs Mickey.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 16:44 Boxing News this week have solid information, they say, that Tyson is desperate for the fight. The rematch clause outburst came when lawyers were negotiating what would happen if an in injury occurred so Tyson just said fXXXk the rematch when remembering how he had to face Wilder for the third time when desperate to fight AJ. Blame the editors of BN for this, not me. It's the lead editorial.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 16:46

The Docker wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 16:43

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 15:49
Henry isn’t immersed in the traveller culture. His closet friends aren’t from it. He wouldn’t go to any show unless he has a vested interest in it. He’d go to golf. My other ex pro friends Wilson, Robshaws, James, Lowther etc will undoubtedly be there, along with all their ‘clans’. Hopey Price and his brothers Ellis and Morales will 100% be there with the younger generation. Henry will watch it in a pub in York probably playing dominoes or pool. He’s not what you might imagine.

Ah, great, thanks for the insight Mickey. So as a consensus, the travelling community will follow any travelling heritage boxer irrespective of clan prejudice. Cheers.

No, Ii didn't say that and have no idea where you're going with this, or targeting me. Tyson Fury isn't just any boxer.

The Docker wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 17:36

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 16:46

The Docker wrote: ↑15 Mar 2023, 16:43
Ah, great, thanks for the insight Mickey. So as a consensus, the travelling community will follow any travelling heritage boxer irrespective of clan prejudice. Cheers.

No, Ii didn't say that and have no idea where you're going with this, or targeting me. Tyson Fury isn't just any boxer.

Actually wasnt going anywhere with it, or for targeting you with anything underhand. Was just curious, which had now waned with you getting over emotional.