WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019

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[veriton]

really excited for this, been watching both boxers on their way through and think prograis is too strong, he'll take taylor out late on around the 10th. also looking forward to burns selby and price chisora, three quality fights that are very difficult to predict who will win.

[Ruthless-RKO]

really excited for this, been watching both boxers on their way through and think prograis is too strong, he'll take taylor out late on around the 10th. also looking forward to burns selby and price chisora, three quality fights that are very difficult to predict who will win.

Hearn said this was the best card he's ever put on.. Not like it's all his card anyway.. I was think meh at first, but looking back at it.. If Okolie can give us an entertaining fight, the card aint really that bad at all.

[jtourettes]

Anybody know the ring walk times for tonight's card? Want to get back from the pub in time.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Anybody know the ring walk times for tonight's card? Want to get back from the pub in time.

Which fights do you want to catch?

[jtourettes]

Anybody know the ring walk times for tonight's card? Want to get back from the pub in time.

Which fights do you want to catch?

Burns Selby, chis price and the main event

[Ruthless-RKO]

Which fights do you want to catch?

Burns Selby, chis price and the main event

I wanna say get there for 8pm.. Around that time should ne Okolies fight finishing.

Should be Burns-Selby after that..

Chis-Price around 9-half 9...

Main event will be after 10pm..No later that 11pm.

[Counter-puncher]

ok I've arrived at the logic for my prediction

head-to-head, I like Prograis here. The main reason is that I think his style is more compact and better-suited to what I believe is almost certainly going to be a long or distance fight. Compared to Prograis, Taylor's footwork is more skittish and IMO more inefficient (like a slightly less frenetic 140lbs Andrew Selby, kind-sorta....), he ends up bouncing in and out of range which means both more wasted energy, and also means, on occasions, that Taylor's weight will go too far in front of his front knee and make him look like he's lunging too much. By contract, Prograis has much more measured, Joe Louis-like footwork (from what I have seen), and seems much more compact, keeps his weight between his feet and doesn't over-extend so much.

Looking at them defensively, again I think Prograis has the more solid fundamentals, rolls well through the shoulders and at the waist, seems to keep his hands fairly high and tuck his chin nicely. Taylor's defence has been more inconsistent for me- sometimes he can move his head and body well, but he does also have a habit of backing straight up with his head up and when he has the opportunity to simply use his feet for defence he will do, which is kinda fine as long as there's room to back up (though some day he's gonna get caught backing up like that) what worries me there is if Prograis manages to get him against the ropes, I think Taylor could look like quite an upright vulnerable target if he does.

somewhat connected to the above, I think Prograis will mostly be trying to take ring centre/ back Taylor up, and Taylor doing more sniping/raiding from the margins of the ring (whether by choice or being forced into it). personally i think Taylor's best gameplan is a kindof potshotting/singles and doubles type attempt to build points early, personally i don't think he should be trying to exchange with Prograis early, and I would see it as a particular warning sign for Taylor if he starts throwing wild or wild-ish combinations in response to getting caught.

my impression of Taylor so far has been that he may end up getting caught between stylistic stools when fighting at top level- I think he wants to be an offensive, dominating come-forward type of fighter, although with his height-reach and skillset (esp with his good half-step back/counter left, his signature move IMO) IMO there are certain fights where he would be stylistically better off playing the boxer-puncher; this is definitely one of those fights IMO, if he starts exchanging with Prograis on the inside I think Prog is more compact both offensively and defensively and will win those exchanges.

I think Prograis may well start slow-ish, kinda Spence - Brook style, and be content to dominate the ring centre and make Taylor move a lot, I think Prograis would be happy enough if he forces Taylor to move a lot and throw a lot without landing too much, whilst not throwing too much himself, looking to come on and dominate down the stretch as Taylor's energy depletes from having bounced around a lot and landed relatively few hurtful shots from a relatively high output.

i'm looking for Prograis to get Taylor moving backwards, by keeping his head offline with movement from the waist and closing the space forcing Taylor to adjust backwards to maintain distance, looking to knock Taylor backwards with single shots off the movement from the waist- I think Prograis's jab to the body will be fundamental in asserting himself in centre ring- watch for that jab to the body, I think he will look to catch Taylor square-on or in a transition and knock him right back on his heels with it, if Prograis can get that jab to the body in I think it's a long night for Taylor.

even though I expect Prograis to win on like a 60-40 type basis, I do expect a close competitive fight wheer Taylor has his moments and probably plenty of them.

[Boxerbeetle]

I’m still undecided on whether to buy this or not. Main event is great, not particularly fussed on any of the other fights tbh.

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[Delta Jay]

I’m still undecided on whether to buy this or not. Main event is great, not particularly fussed on any of the other fights tbh.

If you didn’t buy this, what would you buy?

[Delta Jay]

The way I see it, Prograis is a horrible fight for anyone. He can really hit and he’s slick as f. He’s hard to hit even though he doesn’t have his hands up and doesn’t move his feet, which always stay in perfect power-punching stance.

Prograis exploits an open stance match up well, the angles of the punches are different when you’re a southpaw vs orthodox and can be easier to slip and roll, especially using his lead shoulder and landing big lefts to the body under straight rights. Gervonta does some similar stuff.

To beat him, you’d ideally have a southpaw stance so the shots are coming from
Different angles and he might not slip em as easy. He didn’t struggle with Flanagan but it did make the very big counters harder to land. You’d also want a lot of speed and good combos, that’s how you get to slicksters. Good long reach because Prograis isn’t the biggest LWW. You’d want to be able to tie him up inside and negate his short hooks. And you definitely need good feet to get in and out to land your own without lingering in the danger zone, this might be possible because Regis doesn’t move his feet much.

Funny enough, Taylor has all that. In a way, I think Regis is better but Taylor has just the right style to beat him. He’d have to be on his game and move constantly and get his respect with some big shots and take a few himself.

Quite pleased with myself reading this back, if I’m honest

[ThereByTheGrace]

Yaaaas! Well done taylor! Get intae them boxed well fought well and outsmarted the yank!

[KiwiRider]

Yaaaas! Well done taylor! Get intae them boxed well fought well and outsmarted the yank!

I thought he more out worked him.
Prograis was definitely the slicker guy, it was only as he got tired, he let Josh into the fight. Then Prograis acted like a champion in the 12th. You have to respect that.
I'm happy for Josh, it's tough being a fan of his, he really has to grind out his wins. Nothing comes easy for him.

[JxhDel.]

I was sure about Taylor winning it since his masterpiece against that unit of a man called Baranchyk. A statement in boxing masterclass

[brilo33]

brilliant by taylor , i think he bullied and out boxed regis, i think taylor had his number from the end off the 1st rd,taylor also changed up how he fought in the fight many times ,bullied walked through , front foot. waited countered ,up close in side boxed well, what a great win against a top boxer in prograis, i gave prograis 3 rds , fantastic win josh

[Boxerbeetle]

I’m still undecided on whether to buy this or not. Main event is great, not particularly fussed on any of the other fights tbh.

If you didn’t buy this, what would you buy?

I buy very few PPVs these days, Sky (and BT / ITV) take the piss by putting so many on. This card had 1 good fight and not a single ‘PPV’ name on it, didn’t justify being PPV for me.

[NoScoutingReports]

Top level fight as expected, great to watch. Delighted for Taylor!

[DrDuke]

Taylor won clearly. The draw score sucked. I had Taylor 116-112. Actually, it could look closer, as Taylor was edging a lot of rounds just a little bit. But it was Taylor's fight.

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[Ruthless-RKO]

Had the judge given Prograis the final round on his card, a round he clearly won, it would have been a majority draw..

[DrDuke]

I gave Prograis only 3, 8, 11, 12.

[Twinkle Toes]

It was a good fight. I think Taylor nicked it through pure tenacity, but it was a close one.

Prograis seemed happy to mix it up with Taylor but for me that was his mistake. I felt Taylor threw a lot of leather that was not very precise but was being portrayed by the commentary as though every shot was landing. 3 or 4 punch combinations with only one or two shots landing was common place. I think Prograis was covering up well and not getting enough credit for it.

[jtourettes]

Taylor won clearly. The draw score sucked. I had Taylor 116-112. Actually, it could look closer, as Taylor was edging a lot of rounds just a little bit. But it was Taylor's fight.

I scored it a draw so I wouldn't say it sucked. Some rounds were clear, others not so much.

[MightyWarrior]

What a fighter is Josh Taylor, the real McCoy, he was losing that fight till about halfway through and then changed tactics, turned it around, grit and balls, what a champion - the difference was Josh was battle hardened, and the American hadn’t had that acid test yet, until last night.

I had a bet on josh 10 to 1 to win a SD ...Damn

What a useless commentary team, Taylors eye was closing and it was about three rounds before they even noticed, three of em ! what the hell are they meant to be doing there