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joshj909 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 06:38

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 05:28 Wilder-Fury II Approved By WBC

The afternoon assembly meeting was devoted to mandatory defenses.

Heavyweight: Champion Deontay Wilder (U.S.A)

Wilder is scheduled to make a voluntary title defense on November 23 against No. 3 ranked Luis Ortiz of Cuba. The WBC has also approved the rematch against No. 2 ranked Tyson Fury of Great Britain to be held in 2020.

No. 1 ranked Dillian Whyte’s situation is in process with UKAD and Whyte’s representatives, and with the WBC. If his situation is resolved, he will become the mandatory challenger for February, 2021.

Wilder's Sulaiman-backed reign is beginning to look like Adonis Stevenson's. If he did eventually unify and win he would be stripped in no time as mandatory opponents aren't something he is used to.

And Dillian Whyte has been removed from the WBA ibf and WBO ratings.
The wbc is the only organization waiting for the B sample before removing him

tiny_acres wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 07:54

joshj909 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 06:38

Wilder's Sulaiman-backed reign is beginning to look like Adonis Stevenson's. If he did eventually unify and win he would be stripped in no time as mandatory opponents aren't something he is used to.

And Dillian Whyte has been removed from the WBA ibf and WBO ratings.
The wbc is the only organization waiting for the B sample before removing him

It’s normal for interim or other world title belt-holders of one organisation to lose their rankings with rival governing bodies.

The WBA, IBF & WBO wouldn’t have included Dillian Whyte in their rankings because he holds the WBC’s world interim title.

It had nothing to do with his situation with UKAD/BBBofC.

And let’s try to keep things accurate, Dillian hasn’t been officially accused or charged with anything yet by the BBBofC or UKAD. He passed his VADA testing.

Dillian’s B-sample won’t even be tested until after he’s been charged by UKAD. And there's no indication that this will actually happen. Those are the official rules.

We don't even know if Dillian Whyte has submitted an application for a retroactive TUE, since he had at least five working days to do this after the adverse analytical finding had been initially reported.

Nearly everything we "think" we "know" at the moment about the situation is merely media speculation.

Anyway, regardless, you need to revise your opinion about the actions of the WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 08:08

tiny_acres wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 07:54

And Dillian Whyte has been removed from the WBA ibf and WBO ratings.
The wbc is the only organization waiting for the B sample before removing him

It’s normal for interim or other world title belt-holders of one organisation to lose their rankings with rival governing bodies.

The WBA, IBF & WBO wouldn’t have included Dillian Whyte in their rankings because he holds the WBC’s world interim title.

It had nothing to do with his situation with UKAD/BBBofC.

And let’s try to keep things accurate, Dillian hasn’t been officially accused or charged with anything yet by the BBBofC or UKAD. He passed his VADA testing.

Dillian’s B-sample won’t even be tested until after he’s been charged by UKAD. And there's no indication that this will actually happen.

We don't even know if Dillian Whyte has submitted an application for a retroactive TUE, since he had at least five working days to do this after the adverse analytical finding had been initially reported.

You need to revise your opinion about the actions of the WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO.

So to summarize, it is a disgusting ruling, protecting Wilder from a high risk low return fight against Whyte.

His mandatory obligations are a finger in the eye to not only boxing fans, but the sport itself

Wilder won the title in January 2015.
His first mandatory defence was nearly 3 years later (Nov 2017) against a joke of a challenger in Stiverne.
His next mandatory at least was a little sooner in May 2019 against Breazeale - roughly an 18 month gap.

Note: both Stiverne and Breazeale were gifted the mandatory status, and didn't actually earn it.

So his next mandatory defence is in February 2021 - 21 month gap.

From Whyte's perspective that will be
4 years and 2 months after he fought his first WBC eliminator (Nov 2016)
or you could say
3 years and 2 months since becoming WBC #1 (Nov 2017)
will have passed before he gets his shot at Wilder.

Sigh...

Finkel wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 08:26

His mandatory obligations are a finger in the eye to not only boxing fans, but the sport itself

Wilder won the title in January 2015.
His first mandatory defence was nearly 3 years later (Nov 2017) against a joke of a challenger in Stiverne.
His next mandatory at least was a little sooner in May 2019 against Breazeale - roughly an 18 month gap.

Note: both Stiverne and Breazeale were gifted the mandatory status, and didn't actually earn it.

TBF, Povetkin was mandatory challenger, a worthy WBC Silver titlist, back in May 2016.. So his first mando was due around 15 months after he won the title.. We know what happened there.. Then, Stiverne was supposed to fight Povetkin. Both failed drug tests and for some strange reason, Stiverne became auto mando..

Finkel wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 08:26

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 08:08
It’s normal for interim or other world title belt-holders of one organisation to lose their rankings with rival governing bodies.

The WBA, IBF & WBO wouldn’t have included Dillian Whyte in their rankings because he holds the WBC’s world interim title.

It had nothing to do with his situation with UKAD/BBBofC.

And let’s try to keep things accurate, Dillian hasn’t been officially accused or charged with anything yet by the BBBofC or UKAD. He passed his VADA testing.

Dillian’s B-sample won’t even be tested until after he’s been charged by UKAD. And there's no indication that this will actually happen.

We don't even know if Dillian Whyte has submitted an application for a retroactive TUE, since he had at least five working days to do this after the adverse analytical finding had been initially reported.

You need to revise your opinion about the actions of the WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO.

So to summarize, it is a disgusting ruling, protecting Wilder from a high risk low return fight against Whyte.

His mandatory obligations are a finger in the eye to not only boxing fans, but the sport itself

Wilder won the title in January 2015.
His first mandatory defence was nearly 3 years later (Nov 2017) against a joke of a challenger in Stiverne.
His next mandatory at least was a little sooner in May 2019 against Breazeale - roughly an 18 month gap.

Note: both Stiverne and Breazeale were gifted the mandatory status, and didn't actually earn it.

So his next mandatory defence is in February 2021 - 21 month gap.

From Whyte's perspective that will be
4 years and 2 months after he fought his first WBC eliminator (Nov 2016)
or you could say
3 years and 2 months since becoming WBC #1 (Nov 2017)
will have passed before he gets his shot at Wilder.

Sigh...

The WBC are utterly rancid.

The reason Whyte's mandatory is pushed back so far is because they are waiting for UKAD to make a ruling and UKAD usually take a year to do an investigation. With any other testing organization Whyte would be mandatory following Fury-Wilder.

marvelous marv wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 09:44 The reason Whyte's mandatory is pushed back so far is because they are waiting for UKAD to make a ruling and UKAD usually take a year to do an investigation. With any other testing organization Whyte would be mandatory following Fury-Wilder.

But wasn't the winner of Rivas-Whyte due to face Wilder before June 2020?

Let's say Fury is allowed first shot because of the draw, I don't see how they can justify Feb 2021, if (big if) Whyte is cleared by UKAD.

This all seems very suspect given that only two weeks ago the WBC were asking people on their official twitter if fans would like to see Wilder-Whyte on May 5th 2020

marvelous marv wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 09:44 The reason Whyte's mandatory is pushed back so far is because they are waiting for UKAD to make a ruling and UKAD usually take a year to do an investigation. With any other testing organization Whyte would be mandatory following Fury-Wilder.

The WBC has allowed Deontay Wilder to perform only two mandatory defences of his championship during the course of a world title reign spanning almost five years! And that's a fact!

So it’s utterly pointless to assume the WBC’s delay in ordering a Wilder-Whyte mandatory title fight is due to the Brits’ situation with UKAD and the BBBofC, considering Mauricio Sulaiman’s historical track record for failing to implement his organisations' very own rules.

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PBC FIGHT CAMP: DEONTAY WILDER VS. LUIS ORTIZ (Part 1)

Network: FOX
Date/Time: Sunday, Oct. 27 (Pre/Post NFL)

PBC FACE TO FACE: DEONTAY WILDER VS. LUIS ORTIZ

Network: FOX
Date/Time: Saturday, Nov. 2 (11:30 PM ET / 11:00 PM PT)

PBC FIGHT CAMP: DEONTAY WILDER VS. LUIS ORTIZ (Part 2)

Network: FOX
Date/Time: Saturday, Nov. 2 (12:00 AM ET / 11:30 PM PT)

INSIDE PBC BOXING

Network: FS1
Date/Time: Wednesday, Nov. 6 (12:00 AM ET)

PBC COUNTDOWN: DEONTAY WILDER VS. LUIS ORTIZ

Network: FOX
Date/Time: Saturday, Nov. 9 (11:30 PM ET / 11:00 PM PT)

TOE-TO-TOE WITH LEO SANTA CRUZ

Network: FS1
Date/Time: Sunday, Nov. 10 (9:00 PM ET)

PBC FIGHT CAMP: DEONTAY WILDER VS. LUIS ORTIZ (Part 3)

Network: FOX
Date/Time: Saturday, Nov. 16 (11:30 PM ET / 11:00 PM PT)

PBC COUNTDOWN: LEO SANTA CRUZ VS. MIGUEL FLORES

Network: FOX
Date/Time: Saturday, Nov. 16 (12:00 AM ET / 11:30 PM PT)

PBC FIGHT CAMP: DEONTAY WILDER VS. LUIS ORTIZ (Part 4)

Network: FOX
Date/Time: Sunday, Nov. 17 (Pre/Post NFL)

INSIDE PBC BOXING

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Date/Time: Sunday, Nov. 17 (Pre/Post NFL)

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Wilder is a crap champion .
Protected by the WBC , just look at his pathetic record knocking out tomato cans .
In reality he has had only two opponents who put up a fight - 2 !

Fury and grandpa Ortiz

stevec@france wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 12:47 Wilder is a crap champion .
Protected by the WBC , just look at his pathetic record knocking out tomato cans .
In reality he has had only two opponents who put up a fight - 2 !

Fury and grandpa Ortiz

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 05:28 Wilder-Fury II Approved By WBC

The afternoon assembly meeting was devoted to mandatory defenses.

Heavyweight: Champion Deontay Wilder (U.S.A)

Wilder is scheduled to make a voluntary title defense on November 23 against No. 3 ranked Luis Ortiz of Cuba. The WBC has also approved the rematch against No. 2 ranked Tyson Fury of Great Britain to be held in 2020.

No. 1 ranked Dillian Whyte’s situation is in process with UKAD and Whyte’s representatives, and with the WBC. If his situation is resolved, he will become the mandatory challenger for February, 2021.

Unless Wilder is made franchise champion after beating Ortiz of course

Which I wouldn't rule out happening

They will, I'm surprised it was Loma being the 2nd and not Wilder

Wilder is a funny guy

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019, 06:22 Wilder is a funny guy

Ya that was a nice funny line from him

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 08:44

Thanks for posting that ...enjoyed it.

It just gets worse and worse

The Fight Camp episodes have been well done and FOX is putting a lot of muscle behind promoting the event. Not a $75 fight but i'll absolutely go see it at the local theater for $20.