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Ben ran over to to stop Ben being stupid.. then Lee comes over like, it’s oryt guy. Sorry about that.

Was very childish

Can't see Whittaker stepping up much in his next fight, they got away with one last night so a feather fisted TBA billed most likely option.
A good looking card ruined by the referee in 2 of the fights

I watched it again this morning, hungover but more or less sober.

It wasn't on the level of the IJL Stoppage of Maccaraneli v McKenzie, but it was without doubt an early Stoppage, British stoppage, home fighter Stoppage whatever you want to call it.

Foster is an experienced ref who does this time and time again. When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.

We have so many fights ruined because of the refs in the UK.

Imagine some of the all time classic fights, Bastille v Corralles, Gatti v Ward, Ward v Emma null, Bradley v Provodnikov, Kahn v MAIDANA. Would any of these happened if they were in the UK? We ha e had some great fights in the UK, but far too often we are having the same premature Stoppage discussion

forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:37
When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.

This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:41

forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:37
When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.

This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.

Unless the ref determines that the ropes held the fighter up.

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:53

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:41

forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:37
When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.

This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.

Unless the ref determines that the ropes held the fighter up.

Yeah but that wasn’t the case in this fight

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 11:01

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:53

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:41

This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.

Unless the ref determines that the ropes held the fighter up.

Yeah but that wasn’t the case in this fight

Looked like he sat on the middle rope at one point. That’s what prompted him to stop it in the first place.

Felt premature watching it live but seeing the replays ive no issue. Whittakers behavior was pathetic and not for the first time.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 11:20

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 11:01

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:53

Unless the ref determines that the ropes held the fighter up.

Yeah but that wasn’t the case in this fight

Looked like he sat on the middle rope at one point. That’s what prompted him to stop it in the first place.

Yeah but he didn’t fall into the ropes and wasnt only held up by them

Isn’t that the point? The ropes are holding you up?

very taut ropes last night too, keeping everyone inside

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 12:03 Isn’t that the point? The ropes are holding you up?

I meant he wasn’t only held up by them, typo

Would Clarke or Whittaker have been stopped if the roles were reversed in their fights?

Dubois v Lerena is a good example

Most believe it was stopped too early and the Poll that's up & running now will show this.

Picking up on the verdict about how good Whittaker actually is....he ain't especially good and I'd be inclined to get much more excited by anither prospect's performances....Georgio Visioli !

In comparison to Whittaker, Visioli is better skilled, stronger and much more exciting

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 13:20 Most believe it was stopped too early and the Poll that's up & running now will show this.

Picking up on the verdict about how good Whittaker actually is....he ain't especially good and I'd be inclined to get much more excited by anither prospect's performances....Georgio Visioli !

In comparison to Whittaker, Visioli is better skilled, stronger and much more exciting

Saw him for the first time Saturday, looks a real talent.

Weird one. Looked very early, but Cameron was clearly out of it when the ref took him back to his corner and didn't complain

rd350lc wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 13:26

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 13:20 Most believe it was stopped too early and the Poll that's up & running now will show this.

Picking up on the verdict about how good Whittaker actually is....he ain't especially good and I'd be inclined to get much more excited by anither prospect's performances....Georgio Visioli !

In comparison to Whittaker, Visioli is better skilled, stronger and much more exciting

Saw him for the first time Saturday, looks a real talent.

Do yourself a favor have a gander through all his fights, get aboard the Visioli train, excellent to watch

handsofstone wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 14:51

rd350lc wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 13:26

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 13:20 Most believe it was stopped too early and the Poll that's up & running now will show this.

Picking up on the verdict about how good Whittaker actually is....he ain't especially good and I'd be inclined to get much more excited by anither prospect's performances....Georgio Visioli !

In comparison to Whittaker, Visioli is better skilled, stronger and much more exciting

Saw him for the first time Saturday, looks a real talent.

Do yourself a favor have a gander through all his fights, get aboard the Visioli train, excellent to watch

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:41

forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:37
When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.

This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.

It depends on whether you think the ropes held him up. It looked they were

I respectfully disagree, Fury was more out on his feet, I think Cameron had more his wits about him

forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 15:51

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:41

forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:37
When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.

This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.

It depends on whether you think the ropes held him up. It looked they were

I don’t think they did, his knees dipped for a split second where he appeared to sit and stand up again but the ropes didn’t stop him falling down.

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 07:02

coneye wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 01:02 OK standing 8 count wrong language he was still defending a mandatory 8 count could probably should of been used

They can only give a mandatory 8 count when a fighter is dropped, the only option the ref had was to let it continue or stop it.

I.lm going to watch again
But at one point he looked to be leaning on the ropes . Which could be took for being held up . BUT surmising I.m wrong brings me to another post I put up . WHY did.nt he take a knee. Don.t they discuss it practice it in the gym . You get caught
You get hurt don't matter who you are . Fighters pride don't want to.let them go down. But it should be discuss red d in the gym on when and how to use it to your advantage . ESPECIELLY if the plan is to follow him around with your hands up making him work . And punch himself out Which was obviously the case here

coneye wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 19:27

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 07:02

coneye wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 01:02 OK standing 8 count wrong language he was still defending a mandatory 8 count could probably should of been used

They can only give a mandatory 8 count when a fighter is dropped, the only option the ref had was to let it continue or stop it.

I.lm going to watch again
But at one point he looked to be leaning on the ropes . Which could be took for being held up . BUT surmising I.m wrong brings me to another post I put up . WHY did.nt he take a knee. Don.t they discuss it practice it in the gym . You get caught
You get hurt don't matter who you are . Fighters pride don't want to.let them go down. But it should be discuss red d in the gym on when and how to use it to your advantage . ESPECIELLY if the plan is to follow him around with your hands up making him work . And punch himself out Which was obviously the case here

maybe he wasn't thinking straight because of the first punch that had him wobbly

coneye wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 19:27

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 07:02

coneye wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 01:02 OK standing 8 count wrong language he was still defending a mandatory 8 count could probably should of been used

They can only give a mandatory 8 count when a fighter is dropped, the only option the ref had was to let it continue or stop it.

I.lm going to watch again
But at one point he looked to be leaning on the ropes . Which could be took for being held up . BUT surmising I.m wrong brings me to another post I put up . WHY did.nt he take a knee. Don.t they discuss it practice it in the gym . You get caught
You get hurt don't matter who you are . Fighters pride don't want to.let them go down. But it should be discuss red d in the gym on when and how to use it to your advantage . ESPECIELLY if the plan is to follow him around with your hands up making him work . And punch himself out Which was obviously the case here

I don’t know if they teach it but I guess things go out the window sometimes even if they do teach it, we see plenty of fighters jump straight up when knocked down instead of taking a longer count and clearing their heads.