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Re: Louis v Conn I Discussion
Posted: 17 Oct 2009, 20:16
by harrygreb
please do not take bob fosters word on other boxers. he is great guy but his views on who "...cant bust a grape" are laughable and fairly well known to be so.
Re: Louis v Conn I Discussion
Posted: 17 Oct 2009, 20:31
by ThatOne
harrygreb wrote:please do not take bob fosters word on other boxers. he is great guy but his views on who "...cant bust a grape" are laughable and fairly well known to be so.
I'd like to see the citation. Ali did knock Foster down eight times and knocked him out cold in the eighth round, In today's climate the ref would have stopped it way before round eight.
Re: Louis v Conn I Discussion
Posted: 18 Oct 2009, 17:07
by harrygreb
bob says much the same thing whenever he speaks about his career. check a few interviews, i read one a couple of weeks back cant remember where exactly
Re: Louis v Conn I Discussion
Posted: 24 Oct 2009, 05:23
by zojo
BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:Seamus wrote:I was watching this fight recently, and so decided due in part to the fact that Louis may be the consensus favorite as greatest heavyweight of alltime on this forum, to ask the question "Is this fight a serious blot on the record of Joe Louis" ? The 27 year old Brown Bomber got rocked and at times embarrased by a 174 lb Lightheavyweight not known for his punching power.
- Always heard Louis overtrained trying to get his weight below 200 so he wouldn't look so much like the big bully picking on little Conn.
Conn actually had a good style to fluster Louis who was not used to that style and speed. Walcott also used a lot of footwork and in and out to good success. Joe closed the show and gave a rematch as soon as humanly possible as he did in any close call for a rematch. That sets him above every heavy.
Ali had so many stinkers it wasn't funny anymore by the end of his career, so why Louis is singled out for closing the show and doing it again is beyond me other than some will play favorites and not judge fairly.
I read something similar in a bio about Louis. That he was afraid he would be seen as a bully by beating up on a 174 pound light heavyweight so he tried his hardest to come in at a lighter weight than normal. So, in essence, Joe "cut weight" to get in the 190's. If this was a same-day weigh in, I could see it creating issues for him during the fight.