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Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 12:14
by WayoftheCass
It's up on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8GiIED4StU

Wasn't too impressed really. Jones just looks old, shot and has zero punch resistance. Green was teeing off a bit at the end but I actually thought Roy's defence was pretty good but the ref waved it off. Hopefully Roy puts it to bed now. He should have left it after schooling Lacy. Now he goes out with a one round blowout loss. It's sad. I kinda wanted to the rematch with B-Hop. Now that's dead. Hopkins-Ornelas is pathetic. Honestly why bother? What does it achieve?!!! :roll:
Though hopefully Hopkins gets clocked. Not that , that will EVER happen. I want to see an end to this 'senior's tour' of boxing that guys like Jones and Hopkins have been pulling for years. :bag:

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 12:20
by alexpaterson
Cant believe this one I had Jones to win wide on points cant believe he was stopped so early, good name on the record for Green but Jones must retire now

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 13:10
by Rocky Balboa
alexpaterson wrote:Cant believe this one I had Jones to win wide on points cant believe he was stopped so early, good name on the record for Green but Jones must retire now
You can't believe it! I fcuking can't. I was going to bet on Green by KO/TKO & fornicating thought better of it! Would have got generous odds for such a bet on Green. Serves me bloody right, I guess! :(

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 15:00
by Max Molyneux
leforge wrote:If Jones was that shot why could Calzaghe not do it!
Because Green is a puncher and Joe isn't.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 16:49
by whicker
Slightly disappointed that the BBC described this as "Jones going for a 9th World title."

IBO?

I sort of thought the BBC were dedicated to quality standards in journalism, they should have added that it wasn't a highly thought of "title."

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 17:13
by Ezzard
Jones should have quit as soon as he tested positive.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 17:17
by thepocketrocket
Ezzard wrote:Jones should have quit as soon as he tested positive.

'Roid Jones Junior' :OhYes:

I love boxing, the only sport where no-body really cares if you are juicing

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 17:33
by failedairman
sad to see but thank f*ck it ended quick. Over 5 years since RJJ went against Tarver at LH and has declined since, felt sorry for him when he was almost schooled by JC so the step up against Cruiser who can bang was going to be difficult after bad few years.

Green/Hide anyone?

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 17:58
by Neri
Max Molyneux wrote:
leforge wrote:If Jones was that shot why could Calzaghe not do it!
Because Green is a puncher and Joe isn't.
Exactly. It's laughable how some try to use comparitive results to put down other fighters when they know full well there is more to it than that. True boxing fans should know that who beats who and how is not always a reliable way to compare fighters. A shot like that to the temple, especially from a powerful cruiserweight like Green is going to spell goodnight for many world class fighters, nevermind a vulnerable aging legend.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 18:13
by exittored
If he'd retired after the Ruiz fight most people would be talking Top 10 ATG

Jones was one of my favourite boxers of all time and still one of the greatest all round athletes to ever step foot in a ring imo...still think at his very peak the best boxer since the 90's and all you Haters can FUK RIGHT OFF!

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 19:20
by Jon Saxon
exittored wrote:If he'd retired after the Ruiz fight most people would be talking Top 10 ATG

Jones was one of my favourite boxers of all time and still one of the greatest all round athletes to ever step foot in a ring imo...still think at his very peak the best boxer since the 90's and all you Haters can FUK RIGHT OFF!
X2

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 19:27
by stujones
This has no-bearing on the Calzaghe fight. That was always a joke match up. I've never been so unmotivated for a fight after a 24/7 series than for that one.

Jones was there for the payday vs Joe - as apparent by the way he went for the kill after the 1st round KD and him seemingly spending most of his time play sparring with his fat mate.

Jones was in survival mode, trying to do a damage limitation. I would imagine, although not seen it - against Green he wanted to win.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 19:43
by whicker
thepocketrocket wrote:
Ezzard wrote:Jones should have quit as soon as he tested positive.

'Roid Jones Junior' :OhYes:

I love boxing, the only sport where no-body really cares if you are juicing
I think professional wrestlers get away with it... as in the "professional" wrestlers.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 20:00
by FLINT ISLAND
ALI wrote:For those who are re-evaluating Calzaghe's win over Jones based on this loss to Green, give yourself's a shake. Calzaghe's win over a shot-to-sh*t Jones never meant anything to anyone with an IQ higher than 61. If your having problems comming to grips with that, then you should probably be posting over on East Side Boxing.

:lol: :lol: :lol: ............I know..........they got some right retarded posters on there.

As for the fight - lets remeber

This was at Crusierweight

Roy Jones is no cruserweight - he only ever fought one time at a higher weight at heavyweight - and that was 2003 still in his prime years

Quite simple - he aint got the reflexs - and he was nailed by a powerful puncher at Crusierweight

Roy should have reitred by now - but he is still a decent fighter - he just got bombed out by a powerful guy

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 20:05
by Twinkle Toes
Jones Jr might not have been a cruiser, but neither was Green, Jones is probably the bigger man actually.

Jones has tarnished his name by carrying on as long as he has.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 20:11
by FLINT ISLAND
Twinkle Toes wrote:Jones Jr might not have been a cruiser, but neither was Green, Jones is probably the bigger man actually.

Jones has tarnished his name by carrying on as long as he has.

He didnt look the bigger man in there tonight

Remeber - Jones is not even a natural Light Heavyweight

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 21:30
by ra2006
FLINT ISLAND wrote:
ALI wrote:For those who are re-evaluating Calzaghe's win over Jones based on this loss to Green, give yourself's a shake. Calzaghe's win over a shot-to-sh*t Jones never meant anything to anyone with an IQ higher than 61. If your having problems comming to grips with that, then you should probably be posting over on East Side Boxing.

:lol: :lol: :lol: ............I know..........they got some right retarded posters on there.

As for the fight - lets remeber

This was at Crusierweight

Roy Jones is no cruserweight - he only ever fought one time at a higher weight at heavyweight - and that was 2003 still in his prime years

Quite simple - he aint got the reflexs - and he was nailed by a powerful puncher at Crusierweight

Roy should have reitred by now - but he is still a decent fighter - he just got bombed out by a powerful guy
Both men had agreed to come in at 82 KGs, this was a catchweight which was informally agreed.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 03 Dec 2009, 01:00
by Deserter
FLINT ISLAND wrote:Remeber - Jones is not even a natural Light Heavyweight
:roll: How do you arrive at that conclusion?

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 03 Dec 2009, 02:09
by Brute
whicker wrote:Slightly disappointed that the BBC described this as "Jones going for a 9th World title."

IBO?

I sort of thought the BBC were dedicated to quality standards in journalism, they should have added that it wasn't a highly thought of "title."
Ask Ricky Hatton. His last three fights have been IBO defences.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 03 Dec 2009, 03:56
by oliverfennell
whicker wrote:Slightly disappointed that the BBC described this as "Jones going for a 9th World title."

IBO?

I sort of thought the BBC were dedicated to quality standards in journalism, they should have added that it wasn't a highly thought of "title."
If we were to class all of Jones' "world" belts, then this would have been his 11th (he also got WBF, NBA and IBA belts)

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 03 Dec 2009, 04:15
by bollox
Catchweight fights for (alleged) titles should be banned. Fighters should be forced to come in at no less than a specified % of the weight class limit. The limit for this fight was 200 so they should have been forced to come in at no less than 195. If they don't 'make the weight' then they need to be told..."you're not fighting. fukk off down a division" :bag:

Having said that, some twat may read this and introduce an entire bunch of new titles :roll: And in the red corner we have Manny Pacquaio, the titleholder of the 145lb junior welter-welter catchweight subdivision. Then multiply this scenario by about 10 alphabet organisations :witzend:

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 03 Dec 2009, 06:58
by Matt W
Sad to say but I don't think Jones will retire for the same reason Holyfield won't - £££££.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 05:59
by oliverfennell
bollox wrote:Catchweight fights for (alleged) titles should be banned. Fighters should be forced to come in at no less than a specified % of the weight class limit. The limit for this fight was 200 so they should have been forced to come in at no less than 195.
Why? So long as they're not over, it's entirely up to them.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 08:02
by Autobarn
i don't see what the problem with the fight is. jones may no longer be a legend but he was still considered a contender, his name is still big in other countries, he looked good in 2 previous bouts (sheika and lacy) and he dropped joe calzaghe, losing on POINTS despite bad cuts.

so for green to do him in a round, make a decent payday and perhaps land himself a moderately big fight next, that is alright for danny green.

ppl can moan and pine about jones. but green had some serious potential as an action fighter, which he never fulfilled. now he has a chance to fulfil it. there is upside for green, a good and exciting fighter who has used jones as a stepping stone. it happens. that's boxing. no point clinging on to false idols.

Re: Jones/Green spoiler!!

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 09:50
by Asterix
bollox wrote:Catchweight fights for (alleged) titles should be banned. Fighters should be forced to come in at no less than a specified % of the weight class limit. The limit for this fight was 200 so they should have been forced to come in at no less than 195. If they don't 'make the weight' then they need to be told..."you're not fighting. fukk off down a division" :bag:

Having said that, some twat may read this and introduce an entire bunch of new titles :roll: And in the red corner we have Manny Pacquaio, the titleholder of the 145lb junior welter-welter catchweight subdivision. Then multiply this scenario by about 10 alphabet organisations :witzend:
The contracted limit was 180 or 185 lbs (I can't remember which).